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thunderhawk · 08-16-2005, 06:20 PM

Vast majority uninterested in Blu-ray and HD-DVD

Jupiter Research has just published a study that confirms what many have been saying here for months. That most people are not ready to make the jump to the next generation formats and very few have the equipment required to enjoy high definition content. What we may not have seen yet are some real figures. Jupiters study shows us that a staggering 94% do not plan on buying new or upgraded DVD players to take advantage of Blu-ray or HD-DVD. In addition, only 11 percent of online households even have HD-capable televisions or set-top boxes.

Furthermore, the research company took a swipe at both camps by warning them to drop the hype as the savvy consumer wont fall for it. The thing that will cause a consumer to become interested in a newer format is based on two hard facts: Backwards compatibility (the ability of the newer format to play in the existing customers equipment) and low prices.

Source:
http://www.tekrati.com/T2/Analyst_Re...sp?Newsid=5602

Talking about low prices: PS3 as BD player will be the death for early *cough* incredibly expensive *cough* HD-DVD players :lol: :twisted:
Hehe

However, it will take many many many years for a new format to be adopted

It might take years for the film studios to be fully decided about what format they are going to back... Like WB.

Rob · 08-16-2005, 08:17 PM

In Europe it's still very early days for high definition technologies. Even in the USA only 15% of households have a HDTV. But it is the future, and as people look to upgrade/replace their tvs in the next 10 years or so, they'll invariably buy a HDTV, (knowingly or not). Apparantly 60% of the Uk households don't have pay tv. Therefore, are unlikely to pay for Sky's HDTV service. It won't be until 2012 when analogue tv has been finally turned off with additional space for HDTV channels, that HDTV will really start to take off. When HDTV is available via freeview, people will be more likely to want high definition pictures.

Gorkab · 08-16-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

In Europe it's still very early days for high definition technologies. Even in the USA only 15% of households have a HDTV. But it is the future, and as people look to upgrade/replace their tvs in the next 10 years or so, they'll invariably buy a HDTV, (knowingly or not). Apparantly 60% of the Uk households don't have pay tv. Therefore, are unlikely to pay for Sky's HDTV service. It won't be until 2012 when analogue tv has been finally turned off with additional space for HDTV channels, that HDTV will really start to take off. When HDTV is available via freeview, people will be more likely to want high definition pictures.

Yep but one ******* argumentary of the salers would be to buy 720p because 1080p would be too much expensive and so that would be another argumentary for HD-DVD which will display in 720p and 1080i...

Rob · 08-17-2005, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorkab

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Originally Posted by Rob

In Europe it's still very early days for high definition technologies. Even in the USA only 15% of households have a HDTV. But it is the future, and as people look to upgrade/replace their tvs in the next 10 years or so, they'll invariably buy a HDTV, (knowingly or not). Apparantly 60% of the Uk households don't have pay tv. Therefore, are unlikely to pay for Sky's HDTV service. It won't be until 2012 when analogue tv has been finally turned off with additional space for HDTV channels, that HDTV will really start to take off. When HDTV is available via freeview, people will be more likely to want high definition pictures.

Yep but one ******* argumentary of the salers would be to buy 720p because 1080p would be too much expensive and so that would be another argumentary for HD-DVD which will display in 720p and 1080i...

I would assume that films will be 1080p @24fps. Tv shows will most likely be either 720p or 1080i. Blu-Ray/HD-DVD players will offer the user the ability to optimise the output depending on their display.

zombie · 08-17-2005, 02:00 AM

Obviously not the kind of press the new HD formats want but it's the truth. Few people own HDTV sets, even fewer own HD converter boxes, so yeah... the market for BD and HDDVD will indeed be small at launch. I'll buy a lot of Blu-ray movies to help make up for the mini market... how's that sound Sony?

thunderhawk · 08-17-2005, 06:16 AM

maybe they should prices to go down for some enthousiastic consumers like n2blu

AlexKx · 08-28-2005, 01:22 AM

Duh-eee. Isn't this the point of recordable Blu-ray? The fact that they will be backwards compatable AND be a price close to regular d.v.d.s and eventually be the same and maybe in some cases even cheaper? Hello? What is the deal here? This is what I always thought. Are the Blu-Ray players already released in Japan not backwards compatable?

Waelan · 08-28-2005, 07:26 AM

Yes. Yes. Hello. This is a forum for blu ray technology. They are.

zombie · 08-28-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexKx

Duh-eee. Isn't this the point of recordable Blu-ray? The fact that they will be backwards compatable AND be a price close to regular d.v.d.s and eventually be the same and maybe in some cases even cheaper? Hello? What is the deal here? This is what I always thought. Are the Blu-Ray players already released in Japan not backwards compatable?

All American BD players will be fully compatible with DVD and Blu-ray movies. The Japanese deck is old, well before the complete BD format specifications were finalized. I too believe the prices of BDs will be competitive with DVD prices. I suspect no more than $30 for a BD disc, some as low as $20 at or within six months of launch.

Gorkab · 08-28-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by n2blu

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Originally Posted by AlexKx

Duh-eee. Isn't this the point of recordable Blu-ray? The fact that they will be backwards compatable AND be a price close to regular d.v.d.s and eventually be the same and maybe in some cases even cheaper? Hello? What is the deal here? This is what I always thought. Are the Blu-Ray players already released in Japan not backwards compatable?

All American BD players will be fully compatible with DVD and Blu-ray movies. The Japanese deck is old, well before the complete BD format specifications were finalized. I too believe the prices of BDs will be competitive with DVD prices. I suspect no more than $30 for a BD disc, some as low as $20 at or within six months of launch.

Sounds reasonable, even if we translate the price in euros

thunderhawk · 08-29-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorkab

Sounds reasonable, even if we translate the price in euros

Yup they are

But if they also think that $99 = €99 like some prices I saw... (transport costs and taxes not included in both prices) :?

Gorkab · 08-30-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderhawk

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Originally Posted by Gorkab

Sounds reasonable, even if we translate the price in euros

Yup they are

But if they also think that $99 = €99 like some prices I saw... (transport costs and taxes not included in both prices) :?

It is ! Remember :

DS : 150 $ = 150 €
PSP : 250 $ = 250 €

:shock:

thunderhawk · 09-01-2005, 06:17 AM

Yeah, its so damn unfair

poor europeans again

$150 = €125
$250 = €208

Mmm, I wonder if it would be cheaper if you'd import........ :?

Gorkab · 09-01-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderhawk

Yeah, its so damn unfair

poor europeans again

$150 = €125
$250 = €208

Mmm, I wonder if it would be cheaper if you'd import........ :?

I already thought about that, it would be but there is shiping... SOmthing like 55 $ in some sites... :shock:

john_1958 · 09-07-2005, 07:12 PM

I never believed in consumer studies of products
what i do believe is people are waiting for price dropping so they can upgrade to HDTV products and why movie theatres should get more into hd to pact in more viewers

08-16-2005, 06:20 PM	#1
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	Vast majority uninterested in Blu-ray and HD-DVD Vast majority uninterested in Blu-ray and HD-DVD Jupiter Research has just published a study that confirms what many have been saying here for months. That most people are not ready to make the jump to the next generation formats and very few have the equipment required to enjoy high definition content. What we may not have seen yet are some real figures. Jupiters study shows us that a staggering 94% do not plan on buying new or upgraded DVD players to take advantage of Blu-ray or HD-DVD. In addition, only 11 percent of online households even have HD-capable televisions or set-top boxes. Furthermore, the research company took a swipe at both camps by warning them to drop the hype as the savvy consumer wont fall for it. The thing that will cause a consumer to become interested in a newer format is based on two hard facts: Backwards compatibility (the ability of the newer format to play in the existing customers equipment) and low prices. Source: http://www.tekrati.com/T2/Analyst_Re...sp?Newsid=5602 Talking about low prices: PS3 as BD player will be the death for early cough incredibly expensive cough HD-DVD players :lol: :twisted: Hehe However, it will take many many many years for a new format to be adopted It might take years for the film studios to be fully decided about what format they are going to back... Like WB.

09-07-2005, 07:12 PM	#15
john_1958 Power Member Member since:Mar 2005	study I never believed in consumer studies of products what i do believe is people are waiting for price dropping so they can upgrade to HDTV products and why movie theatres should get more into hd to pact in more viewers

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08-16-2005, 08:17 PM	#2
Rob Active Member Member since:Jun 2004	In Europe it's still very early days for high definition technologies. Even in the USA only 15% of households have a HDTV. But it is the future, and as people look to upgrade/replace their tvs in the next 10 years or so, they'll invariably buy a HDTV, (knowingly or not). Apparantly 60% of the Uk households don't have pay tv. Therefore, are unlikely to pay for Sky's HDTV service. It won't be until 2012 when analogue tv has been finally turned off with additional space for HDTV channels, that HDTV will really start to take off. When HDTV is available via freeview, people will be more likely to want high definition pictures.

08-17-2005, 02:00 AM	#5
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:866	Obviously not the kind of press the new HD formats want but it's the truth. Few people own HDTV sets, even fewer own HD converter boxes, so yeah... the market for BD and HDDVD will indeed be small at launch. I'll buy a lot of Blu-ray movies to help make up for the mini market... how's that sound Sony?

08-17-2005, 06:16 AM	#6
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	maybe they should prices to go down for some enthousiastic consumers like n2blu

08-28-2005, 01:22 AM	#7
AlexKx Active Member Member since:Jan 2005	Duh-eee. Isn't this the point of recordable Blu-ray? The fact that they will be backwards compatable AND be a price close to regular d.v.d.s and eventually be the same and maybe in some cases even cheaper? Hello? What is the deal here? This is what I always thought. Are the Blu-Ray players already released in Japan not backwards compatable?

08-28-2005, 07:26 AM	#8
Waelan Member Member since:Aug 2005	Yes. Yes. Hello. This is a forum for blu ray technology. They are.

09-01-2005, 06:17 AM	#13
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	Yeah, its so damn unfair poor europeans again $150 = €125 $250 = €208 Mmm, I wonder if it would be cheaper if you'd import........ :?

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