Bi-wiring back speakers??

[nothing.sound]

I was thinking about by-wiring my new system. Are you only suppose to do this with the fronts and centre?? or all of the speakers? Also will have I have to change anything on my receiver??

[mdabb]

No point in bi-wiring. Now if you want to bi-amp then yes you will like the results. Haven't bi-amped myself but would like to someday.

There is a bi-wire, bi-amp thread here if you want to look.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=56058

[richteer]

Originally Posted by nothing.sound

I was thinking about by-wiring my new system. Are you only suppose to do this with the fronts and centre?? or all of the speakers? Also will have I have to change anything on my receiver??

Go for it! It's most important on the fronts and centers, but if you can afford the extra $$$ (and they support it), you might as well bi-wire your surrounds too.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by mdabb

No point in bi-wiring.

Why do you say that? I performed my own experiments comparing bi-wired speakers with non-bi-wired, and I prefered bi-wired.

[sokrman14]

Same here, I preferred bi-wiring, but I wouldnt have spent thousands of extra dollars to do it.

[mdabb]

Originally Posted by richteer

Why do you say that? I performed my own experiments comparing bi-wired speakers with non-bi-wired, and I prefered bi-wired.

You sure you are talking about bi-wiring and and you mean bi-amped???

It's late but long story short.........I had been following a discussion/argument
on AVS(I'll find the thread tomorrow-something like not allowed to bi-wire on AVS) and decided to try it out for myself and bi-wire to see if I could hear any differences. The results= no... There is also some good tech info posted as well.

I was going to try out the Bi-amping but haven't got around to it yet.


There is more detail to go into but it's late "for me" and hopefully we can continue with the heavy stuff tomorrow.

If I am wrong or maybe the results from my current setup is hindering then I wouldn't disagree others may hear a difference.

[mdabb]

Originally Posted by sokrman14

Same here, I preferred bi-wiring, but I wouldnt have spent thousands of extra dollars to do it.

You sure you don't mean bi-amping??? Hence the $$$$$1000,s more.....

[mdabb]

Heres the link
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1057713



Electrical Analysis of bi-wiring
http://www.pcavtech.com/techtalk/biwire/index.htm

[richteer]

Originally Posted by mdabb

You sure you are talking about bi-wiring and and you mean bi-amped???

Very sure! (High end) Audio has been one of my main hobbies for about 20 years (long before I got into movies), so I'm very cognizant of the differences between bi-wiring and bi-amping.

Assuming the use of two-way speakers, bi-wiring is when you run two sets of cables from your amplifier to each speaker: one for the bass and one for the treble. Most amps have one pair of terminals for each channel (so the amp end of the cable must be doubled up), but some have two pairs of terminals to facilitate bi-wiring.

Bi-amping is when you take a bi-wired configuration and use a separate amp for each driver. So using two-way speakers, you'd need either a pair of stereo amps or four monoblocks.

Edit: I have one pair of monoblocks and use speaker cable that was designed with bi-wiring in mind. It has four conductors: two for the + for each driver, and two for each driver's -.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by mdabb

You sure you don't mean bi-amping??? Hence the $$$$$1000,s more.....

Bi-wiring; some speaker cables are pretty pricey!

[sokrman14]

Originally Posted by mdabb

You sure you don't mean bi-amping??? Hence the $$$$$1000,s more.....

You are right, I meant biamping, although it is still possible to spend $1000's extra for biwiring if you get that really pricy speakerwire.

[mdabb]

Would we agree that in the majority of cases (especially concerning equipment) that Bi-wiring will not change anything as far as being sonically better or improved???

Naturally everyone may yield different results but for the most part myself personally I don't see why the average setup will benefit or how biwiring would change anything.


It's nice to see that we may agree or disagree but we still respect one another.

[mdabb]

No doubt there are some expensive cables out there. I want great cables but............

[richteer]

Originally Posted by mdabb

Would we agree that in the majority of cases (especially concerning equipment) that Bi-wiring will not change anything as far as being sonically better or improved???

Naturally everyone may yield different results but for the most part myself personally I don't see why the average setup will benefit or how biwiring would change anything.

Yeah, but have you actually tried it? I was sceptical at first too, but one quick experiment was enough to convince. I do agree that bi-wiring is probably not a universal solution, and that the gains can be somewhat modest. But compared to the relatively low cost of entry (another set of speaker cables), it's worth a shot for almost any one.

It's nice to see that we may agree or disagree but we still respect one another.

Absolutely.

[mdabb]

Yeah I did try out bi-wiring my front L/R speakers to my Onkyo TX-SR875. I am using Canare biwiring cables that I combined 4 leads into two. So I figured Why not try it out since it will only take five minutes. I didn't hear any difference and tried out various music genres for a few hours.

My speakers are a three way design so maybe two way speakers with separate crossovers yield a different result???

I haven't tried the biamping yet.....only because I didn't feel like moving my entertainment center but I definitely see why it is beneficial.