All this talk about BD+

[septic death]

it will be less than a month before its hacked!! I hate to say that cause i am waiting on some movies. Sadly anything can be hacked!!!

[bferr1]

Has 5C been cracked yet? There's some stuff on my DVR that I'd like to transfer to BD-R...

[jorg]

Originally Posted by septic death

it will be less than a month before its hacked!! I hate to say that cause i am waiting on some movies. Sadly anything can be hacked!!!

plz look at the bd+ specs and you will see to hack bd+ its like cracking a safe thats inside another safe!! lmao

[GaS]

All this stuff gets cracked because the PC based software players are written like crap. Sometimes I think they should just block pc playback completely.

[GaS]

Originally Posted by jorg

plz look at the bd+ specs and you will see to hack bd+ its like cracking a safe thats inside another safe!! lmao

Hasn't Amir said in the past that implementing BD+ would make it easier for hackers to break AACS? Wouldn't if be funny if BD+ somehow holds up while AACS was cracked in no time flat.

[MrVorhees]

why the news "BD+ goes alive" ????? some1 explain me?

We allready knew BD+ is going to come. the question is WHEN?

[TauHeel05]

There is no doubt that it will eventually get hacked. I think it will be considerably longer than a month though. However, BD+ will be the catalyst for Fox/MGM to begin releasing titles again. That is why it's important.

[WriteSimply]

What's more important that just getting hacked is that both AACS and BD+ can be renewed. This is not like CSS on DVD.


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[garak]

Actually, BD+ was created expecting that a disc would get hacked and a encryption key discovered, but unlike DVDs, this will not cripple BD+.

For example, let's say Fox decides to release Star Wars ESB on BD, and they encrypt it using BD+. Then a replication company starts producing lot 1 of ESB. Once out, a hacker gets a copy of ESB, succeeds in decrypting it, and publishes the decryption key on the internet.

Fox gets word of this. They re-encrypt ESB using a different encryption, and then the replication company produces lot 2 of ESB using that new encryption. Now, you get a copy of ESB, but it's from lot 2. You try to decrypt it using the decryption key discovered by the hacker above so that you can...err...backup your movie, but the decryption key discovered above doesn't work for your copy because the key is different.

This is something that was not possible with SD DVDs. Every single DVD ever produced to this day could only be encrypted using one of about 400 encryption keys. So once all 400 keys were discovered, every single DVD could be decrypted and copied.

BD+ does not suffer from this limitation. BD+ allows studios to change the encryption of a BD movie on a title by title (or even theoretically on a disc by disc) basis. Once a key gets discovered, you can bet that studios will no longer use that key.

So while a hacker may be able to decrypt a BD here and there, BD+ will still be effective overall.

[Steverhcp02]

Originally Posted by garak

Actually, BD+ was created expecting that a disc would get hacked and a encryption key discovered, but unlike DVDs, this will not cripple BD+.

For example, let's say Fox decides to release Star Wars ESB on BD, and they encrypt it using BD+. Then a replication company starts producing lot 1 of ESB. Once out, a hacker gets a copy of ESB, succeeds in decrypting it, and publishes the decryption key on the internet.

Fox gets word of this. They re-encrypt ESB using a different encryption, and then the replication company produces lot 2 of ESB using that new encryption. Now, you get a copy of ESB, but it's from lot 2. You try to decrypt it using the decryption key discovered by the hacker above so that you can...err...backup your movie, but the decryption key discovered above doesn't work for your copy because the key is different.

This is something that was not possible with SD DVDs. Every single DVD ever produced to this day could only be encrypted using one of about 400 encryption keys. So once all 400 keys were discovered, every single DVD could be decrypted and copied.

BD+ does not suffer from this limitation. BD+ allows studios to change the encryption of a BD movie on a title by title (or even theoretically on a disc by disc) basis. Once a key gets discovered, you can bet that studios will no longer use that key.

So while a hacker may be able to decrypt a BD here and there, BD+ will still be effective overall.

interesting. I wasnt sure how this worked....but arent copies produced in huge quantities? So a large bunch of the movie would still be hackable...so essentially it would just have an effect of getting a hacked copy and producing it, and that copy would have the original encryption key so it could also be ripped.

I thought BD+ had something to do with playback in BD players.

[garak]

Originally Posted by Steverhcp02

but arent copies produced in huge quantities? So a large bunch of the movie would still be hackable

True. Any disc that was encrypted using that same key would be hackable.

It's not perfect, but it still offers far more protection than was possible with SD DVD encryption.