The Martian 4K UHD (2015) - Page 16 - Blu-ray Forum

mjvmovieman · 01-11-2016, 01:31 PM

Are there 4k players out yet, or are there any confirmed release dates for 4k BR players?

Dubstar · 01-11-2016, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

It's confirmed that Fox will give Dolby Atmos exclusively to UHD BD....

So the Martian will have it for sure...

Is there official press release news you can link regarding this ?

Jimmy Smith · 01-11-2016, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

It's confirmed that Fox will give Dolby Atmos exclusively to UHD BD....

So the Martian will have it for sure...

If that is confirmed I don't understand why Fox refuses to give the Blu-Ray 3D version Atmos if they already have a home Atmos version available. Both Ultra HD and Blu-Ray 3D versions should get Atmos since both formats equally support it

Adrian Wright · 01-11-2016, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubstar

Is there official press release news you can link regarding this ?

Would be interested in this myself please

Geoff D · 01-11-2016, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

If that is confirmed I don't understand why Fox refuses to give the Blu-Ray 3D version Atmos if they already have a home Atmos version available. Both Ultra HD and Blu-Ray 3D versions should get Atmos since both formats equally support it

You know why bro, because marketing: they're saving the audio USP for the new format so it feels like more of a 'double whammy' to buyers of UHD content.

PeterTHX · 01-11-2016, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

It's confirmed that Fox will give Dolby Atmos exclusively to UHD BD....

So the Martian will have it for sure...

Another vote for confirmation source.

Leonidas King · 01-11-2016, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Probably has to do with customer confusion. Most people would probably try playing the UHD disc in their bluray players and getting error messages. They want to wait until players are in stores.

But the UHD version comes with the regular BD. I dont see why that would cause a confusion.

chip75 · 01-11-2016, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Probably has to do with customer confusion. Most people would probably try playing the UHD disc in their bluray players and getting error messages. They want to wait until players are in stores.

I can't see what the issue would be when the normal BD is in the case as well, I'm sure there are people like me who've put in a 3D BD into a 2D player by mistake, the issue is easily resolved when you put the other disc in!

I'm not sure if it's been asked or answered, but will the digital copies be in 4K? I can't see everyone taking the plunge straightaway, but for those with 4K TVs and Apps that support 4K it would be a great head start. I'd consider buying a 4K TV myself if I can get 4K content from digital copies (I'll wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation UHD BD players), I'd buy the UHD BDs for the BDs and 4K DCs.

Geoff D · 01-11-2016, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

I can't see what the issue would be when the normal BD is in the case as well, I'm sure there are people like me who've put in a 3D BD into a 2D player by mistake, the issue is easily resolved when you put the other disc in!

I'm not sure if it's been asked or answered, but will the digital copies be in 4K? I can't see everyone taking the plunge straightaway, but for those with 4K TVs and Apps that support 4K it would be a great head start. I'd consider buying a 4K TV myself if I can get 4K content from digital copies (I'll wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation UHD BD players), I'd buy the UHD BDs for the BDs and 4K DCs.

The covers seems to state 'Digital HD' re: the digital copies. 4K managed copy may come when the 'Digital Bridge' feature is properly launched, but for now it seems as if they'll stick with UV or iTunes HD copies.

MisterXDTV · 01-11-2016, 04:12 PM

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...now-live/28789

It's not official but it's obvious. I think Fox has an exclusive deal with DTS for standard Blu-rays so they can't use Atmos on that format....

PeterTHX · 01-11-2016, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...now-live/28789

It's not official but it's obvious. I think Fox has an exclusive deal with DTS for standard Blu-rays so they can't use Atmos on that format....

"Full specs have not been detailed, but Fox has announced plans to start supporting Dolby Atmos and DTS:X soundtracks with its Ultra HD Blu-ray"

Not much of a confirmation. All Fox has said that they will support advanced object-based audio on UHD and not BD.

Encoding with DTS on BD doesn't preclude them from using Atmos, as Universal has demonstrated.

dvdmike · 01-11-2016, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

If that is confirmed I don't understand why Fox refuses to give the Blu-Ray 3D version Atmos if they already have a home Atmos version available. Both Ultra HD and Blu-Ray 3D versions should get Atmos since both formats equally support it

Contracts

r9800pro · 01-12-2016, 12:30 AM

I hoped that a 3D disc would be included in the combo pack but I don't think people who don't like or support 3D would be willing to pay the extra.
I think studios should start selling a single disc 3D only movies of those 4K titles for like $5-$10 each so that those who like the complete 4K+3D experience won't have to pay again for another 2D disc and Digital code (and maybe another DVD) included in the usual 3D packs.

BenjaminG · 01-12-2016, 01:45 AM

James Finn from Fox just tweeted out the following information regarding the DI of The Martian. Very interesting.

Geoff D · 01-12-2016, 01:58 AM

Thanks for that. I'm glad they haven't just upscaled the 2K version in its entirety and that they're actually going the extra mile to use the raw 'assets' when they can. The more VFX-heavy the movie the more 2K-upscaled stuff you're gonna get in there, but seeing as actual 4K-finished movies have been doing that since the year dot anyway, it's not a problem for me.

Nice.

Agent_DVD · 01-12-2016, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Good thing I preordered a bunch of them already.

Same here, i pre-ordered all of them at $24.99 except Fantastic Four and Exodus (didn't feel i needed to double dip on those titles).

singhcr · 01-12-2016, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Thanks for that. I'm glad they haven't just upscaled the 2K version in its entirety and that they're actually going the extra mile to use the raw 'assets' when they can. The more VFX-heavy the movie the more 2K-upscaled stuff you're gonna get in there, but seeing as actual 4K-finished movies have been doing that since the year dot anyway, it's not a problem for me.

Nice.

I agree. Thank you as well and it is nice to see them use the best footage that they can.

So does this mean any non-VFX scene will be HDR graded at 4K from the 5K RAW footage at 5K?

BenjaminG · 01-12-2016, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent_DVD

Same here, i pre-ordered all of them at $24.99 except Fantastic Four and Exodus (didn't feel i needed to double dip on those titles).

When and where were they $24.95?

jono3000 · 01-12-2016, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenjaminG

When and where were they $24.95?

BestBuy last week

dvdmike · 01-12-2016, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Thanks for that. I'm glad they haven't just upscaled the 2K version in its entirety and that they're actually going the extra mile to use the raw 'assets' when they can. The more VFX-heavy the movie the more 2K-upscaled stuff you're gonna get in there, but seeing as actual 4K-finished movies have been doing that since the year dot anyway, it's not a problem for me.

Nice.

Lucky this does not have a ton of effects work in it

01-11-2016, 01:31 PM	#301
mjvmovieman Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2010 Blu-ray collection:136 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:2 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:267	Are there 4k players out yet, or are there any confirmed release dates for 4k BR players?

01-11-2016, 04:12 PM	#310
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...now-live/28789 It's not official but it's obvious. I think Fox has an exclusive deal with DTS for standard Blu-rays so they can't use Atmos on that format....

01-12-2016, 12:30 AM	#313
r9800pro Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Egypt 4K collection:175 Blu-ray collection:836 Trading Score:5	I hoped that a 3D disc would be included in the combo pack but I don't think people who don't like or support 3D would be willing to pay the extra. I think studios should start selling a single disc 3D only movies of those 4K titles for like $5-$10 each so that those who like the complete 4K+3D experience won't have to pay again for another 2D disc and Digital code (and maybe another DVD) included in the usual 3D packs.

01-12-2016, 01:45 AM	#314
BenjaminG Power Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Australia 4K collection:516 Blu-ray collection:1089 Trading Score:33	James Finn from Fox just tweeted out the following information regarding the DI of The Martian. Very interesting.

01-12-2016, 01:58 AM	#315
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Thanks for that. I'm glad they haven't just upscaled the 2K version in its entirety and that they're actually going the extra mile to use the raw 'assets' when they can. The more VFX-heavy the movie the more 2K-upscaled stuff you're gonna get in there, but seeing as actual 4K-finished movies have been doing that since the year dot anyway, it's not a problem for me. Nice.

Best 4K Blu-ray Deals