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Old 01-18-2016, 03:39 AM   #361
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Bought our 4K UHD complete home theater system today. Only thing missing - 4K UHD Blu-ray discs. I will slow down my purchasing for the next six months as I suspect there will be quite a few titles upgraded after the regular Blu-ray releases. I don't need to double dip. This time I will be very selective in my forward purchasing. As an avid supporter of classic film restoration I will always seriously look into replacing but only if there is a genuine benefit. With new movie titles I look carefully at the ratings provided here by our members. If I happen to be interested in a title I will check if it has a 7.5 rating or higher. If under that, it will have to be something we haven't already got in our collection. Interesting times ahead.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:07 PM   #362
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No, since current blu-rays are backwards compatible!
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:41 PM   #363
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as long the studios (Fox Archive, Warner Archive, Sony etc) putting still their classic movies (incl. B movies from the 1930,40,50,60s) onto DVD-R/MOD -> there will be no chance for UHD

As long the studios don't care anymore for those movies (where the hell are movies with Katherine Hepburn, James Stewart, William Powell, Claudette Colbert, Errol Flynn, Fred Astaire etc.????) i don't think they will putting'em on UHD.

I guess only their first rated movies like Ben Hur, Cleopatra, Gone With the Wind, Wizard of Oz getting a UHD Release.
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Old 01-18-2016, 08:54 PM   #364
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DVD quality is usually 'good enough' at my usual viewing distance, I have a region free portable DVD player, and there are many films that simply aren't available on blu ray.

The two things that made me move to blu ray were: the news that the Sony 400 disc blu ray changer was being discontinued - so I bought one at discount (wish I'd bought two!) and discovering steelbooks. After finally retiring the old laptop and being given a tablet the portable DVD player will be retired shortly too.

I'm not impressed with the UHD disc specifications or the lack of UHD 3D. I don't have a 4K TV, as the only one I want is the LG flat OLED which is quite expensive. I also like megachangers...and I doubt UHD versions will ever appear.

But I reserve the right to change my opinion if UHD offers something that I really like.
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:39 PM   #365
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You’re kidding, right? How do you guys come up with all these *set-up* questions.
Hey you retired!?! Congrats
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:17 AM   #366
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Hey you retired!?! Congrats
Yup, for the most part just dealing the cards…. fer now…..sometimes with one hand moving under the table, when not……



And occasionally dispersing hints before things become o-fficial….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...+good#post1148
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:39 AM   #367
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I feel great, because a massive amount of Blu-ray's in my collection will never see the light of day on Ultra HD Blu-ray. I don't like the concept of digital online distribution and paying to own content that way, I prefer physical media, therefore for many movies I own the last physical copy that will exist.
Until a fire happens...
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Old 01-19-2016, 01:50 AM   #368
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I'm only upgrading select titles. So many older movies look awful on blu-ray because they were not remastered prior to being released on blu-ray. Some movies I've grown tired of watching. I'd like to just settle on a streaming service either Vudu or Amazon. The titles I have bought on these services look awesome; I'm talking about new releases like Mad Max Fury Road, Jurassic World, The Hobbit series extended editions. My only hangup with streaming is all movies on these services should be the newest blu-ray releases if they have been released on blu-ray. Some movies like Batman Returns and Batman Begins are not in the correct aspect ratio on these streaming services. This issue needs to be addressed. If anyone members on blu-ray.com work for these streaming services please help with this issued. All movies on streaming services should be the latest and greatest edition available on physical media.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:10 AM   #369
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Not gonna happen.

Ok. I have a perfectly good 70 inch Sharp 3DTV. It's lasted me since summer 2012, and I truly might aim to use it a decade.

I have over 40 titles in 3D, and I want to watch most in that format again.

DVD isn't dead! They should have driven it out like VHS. Hell, I'm pushing 30 and work an hourly gig. I buy $2 DVD films on occasion! (Things like Sneakers, Wall Street 2 etc)

4k looks cool, but I'm not highly motivated to join the fray when I have better things to do with my limited income.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:24 AM   #370
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Until a fire happens...
This is always a dumb argument by dumb people. This is what I have insurance for. My physical media collection is insured for $40000.

Also, I don't know a single person who has had a fire happen in their home, the likelihood that I experience this over my lifetime is slim just like many people.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:57 AM   #371
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Ok, I must ask, how does one insure their DVD/Blu-ray collection?
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Old 01-19-2016, 03:07 AM   #372
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Ok, I must ask, how does one insure their DVD/Blu-ray collection?
I'm not fully sure how the system works there in the U.S. Here in Australia we have to have contents insurance for our possessions to be covered. General contents insurance usually only covers up to a certain amount for physical media, most companies in the vicinity of $5000. If what you own exceeds this, the only way to cover them is to have them listed separately as specialty items up to an amount of your choosing, which you pay a higher premium for. The greater the amount you choose to cover them for the greater the premium.
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:08 AM   #373
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This is always a dumb argument by dumb people. This is what I have insurance for. My physical media collection is insured for $40000.

Also, I don't know a single person who has had a fire happen in their home, the likelihood that I experience this over my lifetime is slim just like many people.
It's a quick and dumb argument by people who like streaming and don't want to feel stupid for supporting horrible DRM schemes.
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Old 01-20-2016, 01:30 AM   #374
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This is always a dumb argument by dumb people. This is what I have insurance for. My physical media collection is insured for $40000.

Also, I don't know a single person who has had a fire happen in their home, the likelihood that I experience this over my lifetime is slim just like many people.
It must cost you a fortune, my insurance company cober for $5000 in media but if I wan more it's like an extra of $40/$1000 if my memory serve me right, it would cost me an extra of $1400/year to get insured for 40k.
Way too much, I'm taking the risk.
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Old 01-20-2016, 02:11 AM   #375
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Also, I don't know a single person who has had a fire happen in their home, the likelihood that I experience this over my lifetime is slim just like many people.
I realize we don't know each other but my grandmothers house burned down back in the mid '80s.

Also I'm not advocating streaming! I have fire extinguishers
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It must cost you a fortune, my insurance company cober for $5000 in media but if I wan more it's like an extra of $40/$1000 if my memory serve me right, it would cost me an extra of $1400/year to get insured for 40k.
Way too much, I'm taking the risk.
It doesn't cost me anywhere near that much. I pay around $175 a year to have my collection insured for the figure I previously mentioned.

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I realize we don't know each other but my grandmothers house burned down back in the mid '80s.

Also I'm not advocating streaming! I have fire extinguishers
This is always sad to hear. Hopefully they safely made it out?
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Old 01-20-2016, 03:48 AM   #377
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It doesn't cost me anywhere near that much. I pay around $175 a year to have my collection insured for the figure I previously mentioned.
I just checked your HT gallery, very nice stuff there. I realized you live in a condo or appartement, that's probably why it's cheaper to get insured for that many blu-rays, my house would be an easy prey since there's not that many neighbours around.
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Old 01-20-2016, 07:00 AM   #378
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In the rush to the future I too find myself stuck between any number of competing technological demands. Though genuinely excited about the availability of UHD media, I too doubt we will ever get the chance to "upgrade" significant portions of our collections. I never replaced most of my reasonable (less than 300 or so) LDs with DVDs, and then again I only started truly collecting once HD hit with the advent of BD. Even now SD-exclusive discs remains unchallenged in my collection, mostly TV or video-oriented series that won't be as fortunate as Star Trek TNG.

I don't have any 4k hardware other than the Amazon fire set-top box that got released here in November (ironic since we all have cheap uncapped fiber service so anyone can access UHD streaming easily), and though I am still using my 45" Aquos set from 2006, this summer I will start projecting in my light-controlled home theater. The problem - and what shouldn't be a problem in 2016 - is the lack of any reasonably priced projection options for 4k, especially if you include accessing wider gamut HDR. Ironically the display most likely to benefit from a resolution push is seeing the least amount of love from chip manufacturers.

The other soon-to-be-pressing problem is that broadcast TV here is probably going to skip over 4k entirely via 8k "fiat" due to NHK, Sony/Pana/Sharp/ect, courtesy the 2020 Olympics, and our Dear Leader Mr. Shinzo Abe. I wonder what content they intend to broadcast since SD transfers still sneak through as "HD," (Dillinger on Movie Plus just last week!), but moreso how will I ever get to enjoy it at 180 inches (and through... 2.2+ receiver via... err, HDMI?).

Right now 2k content is abundant and easily exploited, thanks to high-bitrate subscription satellite broadcasts with the marketed ability to burn them off to BD-R for personal collections (accepting the mosaic-ing of naughty bits, even on premium channels late at night). WOWOW/NHK top off a typical 40yen BDR-25 in only 2hrs24min with their 20mbit broadcasts and NHK even lets you make 10 copies... a large part of why most people in Japan probably never bother with pressed media. A ton of niche films appear on the domestic/foreign movie channels as well, to the point most of my DVD collection has been replaced by broadcast copies that were cheaper to "own" than even a DVD rental @ 100yen a pop. What a strange world this is.
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In the rush to the future I too find myself stuck between any number of competing technological demands. Though genuinely excited about the availability of UHD media, I too doubt we will ever get the chance to "upgrade" significant portions of our collections. I never replaced most of my reasonable (less than 300 or so) LDs with DVDs, and then again I only started truly collecting once HD hit with the advent of BD. Even now SD-exclusive discs remains unchallenged in my collection, mostly TV or video-oriented series that won't be as fortunate as Star Trek TNG.
I dread to think what SD sourced TV or video oriented series on DVD will look like upscaled to 4K. At 8K they'll be virtually unwatchable. I see a situation looming where we all have two sets in our houses, one for (up to) 2K material and one for (up to) 8K material. The first will be treated like a legacy display.

Technology is racing ahead of common sense, unfortunately.

I have no plans to replace any of my BDs on UHD right now. My immediate dilemma is whether to "future proof" myself with UHD copies of Sicario and The Martian or just go for the standard BD editions!

I've had VHS, laserdiscs, DVD and BD. BD still wows me! Enough already.
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I dread to think what SD sourced TV or video oriented series on DVD will look like upscaled to 4K. At 8K they'll be virtually unwatchable. I see a situation looming where we all have two sets in our houses, one for (up to) 2K material and one for (up to) 8K material. The first will be treated like a legacy display.

Technology is racing ahead of common sense, unfortunately.

I have no plans to replace any of my BDs on UHD right now. My immediate dilemma is whether to "future proof" myself with UHD copies of Sicario and The Martian or just go for the standard BD editions!

I've had VHS, laserdiscs, DVD and BD. BD still wows me! Enough already.
Posts from 2006.

Didn't DVD users say this exact thing with the advent of bluray?

To misquote Ian Malcolm, "Technology, uh, finds a way."
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