PS3: Stringer Claims Victory Despite High Price Tag - Blu-ray Forum

zombie · 06-28-2006, 07:59 PM

http://www.news0r.com/index.php?p=3459&c=1

Also see:

Sony Exec Defends High Price of Blu-ray Enabled PlayStation 3
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...yStation_3/121

suprmallet · 06-28-2006, 08:02 PM

Sony is either trying to do some damage control, or they're in for a rude awakening. There is no way they come out on top at $600 a pop. This is independent of the HD/BD war. This is about games, and I know a lot of gamers who are mad at Sony for including BD when at the moment even a large game like Oblivion can fit on a single DVD.

The Don · 06-28-2006, 09:08 PM

people were shelling out over a G for 360's.....they'll do it for a PS3...especially since PS3 has a much stronger cult-like following...

Psiweaver · 06-29-2006, 04:43 PM

yeah i sold my 3 360s for 1,500 on ebay.

suprmallet · 06-30-2006, 01:24 AM

Yeah, they sold for a lot AT LAUNCH. I'm talking long-term here. PS3 will be short at launch like 360 was, so people will pay up the nose for it. After the holidays, a few more stragglers will pick up their systems, and then what? At $600, I can tell you a lot of people will not buy this system. Period.

marzetta7 · 06-30-2006, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

Yeah, they sold for a lot AT LAUNCH. I'm talking long-term here. PS3 will be short at launch like 360 was, so people will pay up the nose for it. After the holidays, a few more stragglers will pick up their systems, and then what? At $600, I can tell you a lot of people will not buy this system. Period.

Period!!! Hehehehehhe.

suprmallet · 06-30-2006, 04:38 AM

It's not going to be a total flop, but Sony is kidding themselves if they think that the full amount of PS2 owners will buy a PS3 at $600.

yvzpa · 06-30-2006, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

It's not going to be a total flop, but Sony is kidding themselves if they think that the full amount of PS2 owners will buy a PS3 at $600.

I tend to agree with this point. Not everybody will understand the value of PS3 before they make their decision on a gaming console.

I think the price does pose a barrier to many people, but maybe not as big a barrier compared to $600 in the past, as someone in other thread has pointed out about parents getting expensive iPods for their kids.

Psiweaver · 06-30-2006, 04:00 PM

yeah the 600 price tag won't be that bad but most people will be going for the 499 one anways because they won't care or know about hdmi and won't have a tv to support it. As they build more and more they'll bring down the price.

Sidewinder · 06-30-2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

It's not going to be a total flop, but Sony is kidding themselves if they think that the full amount of PS2 owners will buy a PS3 at $600.

I hope not, Sony will never be able to deliver 100Mio. PS3 units till November 2006 :-D

Of course the price tag will not stay at 600$ forever...

AV_Integrated · 06-30-2006, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

I hope not, Sony will never be able to deliver 100Mio. PS3 units till November 2006 :-D

Of course the price tag will not stay at 600$ forever...

In fact, with one of the most serious hardware piececs being the one that is most likely to see a dramatic fall in pricing, it should be very realistic for PS3 pricing to fall to that of X360 within a year or so. While high to begin wtih, it mostly is related to the Blu-ray drive.

It is going to be interesting to see how well it does after the initial sell out of the product. Should Blu-ray drive production go WAY up though and the drives start costing more like $50 instead of $200+ then the game system should come down appropriately... oh, and you'll have that single unit HD playback/gaming device.

I've got $1K set aside already for one.

Psiweaver · 06-30-2006, 07:03 PM

remember the 360 isn't that inexpensive either.

suprmallet · 07-01-2006, 02:41 AM

A lot of people suddenly considered the 360 a bargain when the price of the PS3 was announced. And if the rumors are true that this holiday season you will be able to get a bundle that includes a premium and the HD-DVD add-on for the same price, it really WOULD be a bargain in comparison.

I have no vested interest in the 360 doing well or the PS3 doing badly. This is just the response I've seen from the gamer community. The PS3 is being harshly criticized by a lot of people right now. And if game prices end up at more than 360 game prices, it will die a death.

The Don · 07-01-2006, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

A lot of people suddenly considered the 360 a bargain when the price of the PS3 was announced. And if the rumors are true that this holiday season you will be able to get a bundle that includes a premium and the HD-DVD add-on for the same price, it really WOULD be a bargain in comparison.

I have no vested interest in the 360 doing well or the PS3 doing badly. This is just the response I've seen from the gamer community. The PS3 is being harshly criticized by a lot of people right now. And if game prices end up at more than 360 game prices, it will die a death.

well, it's not like the 360 has put out even a handfull of good games during it's 7 month stint of being out yet....

people will try to revolt and go with the 360...and then see the games they have for it and start breaking things.....

marzetta7 · 07-01-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

A lot of people suddenly considered the 360 a bargain when the price of the PS3 was announced. And if the rumors are true that this holiday season you will be able to get a bundle that includes a premium and the HD-DVD add-on for the same price, it really WOULD be a bargain in comparison.

I have no vested interest in the 360 doing well or the PS3 doing badly. This is just the response I've seen from the gamer community. The PS3 is being harshly criticized by a lot of people right now. And if game prices end up at more than 360 game prices, it will die a death.

Where did you get this rumor, because I'd love to see it. Highly, highly unlikely as there are web reports all over the Internet stating that the Xbox360 is not going to drop in price for the holiday season, so I doubt that they'll include a HD DVD add-on for free. Moveover, at an outpurt of 720P resolution, it is least to be desired, not to mention external add-on drives have historically failed in the past--look into Sega.

theknub · 07-01-2006, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprmallet

A lot of people suddenly considered the 360 a bargain when the price of the PS3 was announced. And if the rumors are true that this holiday season you will be able to get a bundle that includes a premium and the HD-DVD add-on for the same price, it really WOULD be a bargain in comparison.

ok, a 360 with some extra add on to play hd-dvd. great, i love it. however, how many glitches will prob exist for hardware like this to exist? we have an extra interface to work through which can easily cause hangups or who knows what. will microsoft test for problems? yeah. will new issues come up as the discs become more complicated and interactive that we don't foresee? certainly. after all, way back when, the first gen dvd players had issues playing some dvd's that came out because of different features and what not. after all, my current dvd player which is "old" in the techno world has trouble skipping chapters on some DVDs. i can only imagine what potential problems may exist.

i also like how people tout this add on only to not realize you won't be able to play games that are on hd-dvd. so essentially, the add on is simply a player. how much will toshiba like it that microsoft is essentially selling a standalone add on for $300 less. yes, you need a 360 to use it, but i still don't see the pleasure in toshiba's eyes.

Quote:

I have no vested interest in the 360 doing well or the PS3 doing badly. This is just the response I've seen from the gamer community. The PS3 is being harshly criticized by a lot of people right now. And if game prices end up at more than 360 game prices, it will die a death.

what gamer community? the one im involved in, everyone is ready to purchase the $600 version the moment it comes out. i also don't see game prices rising. when the ps2 came out, i remember thinking that game prices would increase, but they really didn't. i think we'll have the same situation here.

out of curiosity, what is the harsh criticism? micrshaft was criticized for not allowing for next gen hardware (blu-ray, hd-dvd) in their product. after all, they didn't put it in even when they are one of the principal supporters. does this show a lack of faith in their product? i know im trolling a bit there, just had to do it.

finally to finish off my rant, how is it a bargain to get a product that is an add-on when you can get a full integrated "true next-gen" system for the same price as a 360 with the add-on? wouldn't that REALLY be the bargain, assuming everything else is being equal?

Psiweaver · 07-01-2006, 06:16 PM

600 isn't terribly bad for a gaming system. Remember more and more kiddies these days are getting computers, ipods, tvs etc bought for them. The one thing that would doom sony would be expensive games. ie over 60. The xbox360 has this problem where games end up being like 75 or 80 after you buy all the features that you want for it. I know many people who play madden and were supremely pissed that for xbox 360 it was missing most of the features and you had to buy them if you wanted them because they ran out of disc space on the disc.

theknub · 07-01-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psiweaver

... it was missing most of the features and you had to buy them if you wanted them because they ran out of disc space on the disc.

thus the limitations of dvd discs and advantage of larger storage discs

Psiweaver · 07-01-2006, 06:36 PM

and thus the reason xbox360 is merely xbox 1.5 rather than 2 since it won't be able to hang with the ps3 for long.

theknub · 07-01-2006, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psiweaver

and thus the reason xbox360 is merely xbox 1.5 rather than 2 since it won't be able to hang with the ps3 for long.

haha, in my post i was going to say that the 360 is simply an x-box with a bit better processor and updated graphics

06-28-2006, 07:59 PM	#1
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:866	PS3: Stringer Claims Victory Despite High Price Tag http://www.news0r.com/index.php?p=3459&c=1 Also see: Sony Exec Defends High Price of Blu-ray Enabled PlayStation 3 http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...yStation_3/121

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
Why the extremely high price?	Blu-ray Movies - North America	smitty4ut	78	03-07-2008 11:41 PM
Have BR standalones gone up in price after the victory?	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	Phatferd	22	02-25-2008 04:27 PM
New Stringer quotes on PS3 sales: much better	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	patrick99	73	11-21-2007 04:01 PM
The high definition disc format war was avoidable, former Warner president claims	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	Blu_Ray_UK2007	11	04-25-2007 09:50 PM
Price tag	Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology	Gamekid	1	03-08-2006 06:44 PM

06-28-2006, 08:02 PM	#2
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Sony is either trying to do some damage control, or they're in for a rude awakening. There is no way they come out on top at $600 a pop. This is independent of the HD/BD war. This is about games, and I know a lot of gamers who are mad at Sony for including BD when at the moment even a large game like Oblivion can fit on a single DVD.

06-28-2006, 09:08 PM	#3
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	people were shelling out over a G for 360's.....they'll do it for a PS3...especially since PS3 has a much stronger cult-like following...

06-29-2006, 04:43 PM	#4
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	yeah i sold my 3 360s for 1,500 on ebay.

06-30-2006, 01:24 AM	#5
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Yeah, they sold for a lot AT LAUNCH. I'm talking long-term here. PS3 will be short at launch like 360 was, so people will pay up the nose for it. After the holidays, a few more stragglers will pick up their systems, and then what? At $600, I can tell you a lot of people will not buy this system. Period.

06-30-2006, 04:38 AM	#7
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	It's not going to be a total flop, but Sony is kidding themselves if they think that the full amount of PS2 owners will buy a PS3 at $600.

06-30-2006, 04:00 PM	#9
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	yeah the 600 price tag won't be that bad but most people will be going for the 499 one anways because they won't care or know about hdmi and won't have a tv to support it. As they build more and more they'll bring down the price.

06-30-2006, 07:03 PM	#12
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	remember the 360 isn't that inexpensive either.

07-01-2006, 02:41 AM	#13
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	A lot of people suddenly considered the 360 a bargain when the price of the PS3 was announced. And if the rumors are true that this holiday season you will be able to get a bundle that includes a premium and the HD-DVD add-on for the same price, it really WOULD be a bargain in comparison. I have no vested interest in the 360 doing well or the PS3 doing badly. This is just the response I've seen from the gamer community. The PS3 is being harshly criticized by a lot of people right now. And if game prices end up at more than 360 game prices, it will die a death.

07-01-2006, 06:16 PM	#17
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	600 isn't terribly bad for a gaming system. Remember more and more kiddies these days are getting computers, ipods, tvs etc bought for them. The one thing that would doom sony would be expensive games. ie over 60. The xbox360 has this problem where games end up being like 75 or 80 after you buy all the features that you want for it. I know many people who play madden and were supremely pissed that for xbox 360 it was missing most of the features and you had to buy them if you wanted them because they ran out of disc space on the disc.

07-01-2006, 06:36 PM	#19
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	and thus the reason xbox360 is merely xbox 1.5 rather than 2 since it won't be able to hang with the ps3 for long.

Best PS3 Game Deals