Did Warner Lie Regarding "Ultimate" Christmas Story? - Blu-ray Forum

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 12:22 PM

what in the world is going on here?
Warner said bd-50, new tranfer, tons of extras, but....
another website has received a copy of the "ultimate tin" and it is the
SAME old bd-25 crap version!!!
Was this some horrible mistake?
where is the answer regarding this?
No-one seems to be talking about this issue or have any answers as to if this is really true that there is NO new version as promised.
Could Warner seriously get away with just putting some cookie cutters and the old crap bd in the new tin?
thoughts?

fatediesel · 10-29-2008, 01:04 PM

Where did you read it was on a bd-50? According to the announcement on this site it would be a bd-25, and there was no word on a new transfer. I would buy this movie if it was ever properly released with a good transfer and decent audio.

PowellPressburger · 10-29-2008, 01:06 PM

It seemed to be common knowledge that it was the same old transfer was all. Nothing new on the disc from from I read. Still DD 1.0 track.

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 01:06 PM

specs were posted on high def digest regarding the bd-50 I believe and all the extras that were planned--good god.
something very strange seems to be going on.
well HDD definitely outlined this "ultimate version"
you can go over there and read the article concerning this release coming out.
I'm just trying to figure out how this info got so confused.

DetroitSportsFan · 10-29-2008, 01:09 PM

Same encode as the previous BD and HD-DVD.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1627...story_uce.html

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 01:11 PM

right.
that's the review I was talking about.
but look at article dated July 14th on high def digest about what was SUPPOSED to be coming out.
that's what I'm talking about.
It states "bd 50" plus tons of extras all outlined.
looks at the comments in the "review" thread you just posted
everyone is asking what happened to this release.
where is the promised bd-50, new encode, etc. etc.
there is no way HDD would have ever published that article on july 14th without direct info from Warner imo.
botton line-Warner seems to have changed their mind for now about giving us a true "ultimate edition"
I mean why the hell would they call this the "ultimate edition"?
they were clearly planning what HDD reported imo.

online365daysayear · 10-29-2008, 01:18 PM

Looks like I will be returning my preorder since it doesn't have anything new except for a tin and some lights. What is so Ultimate about that?

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 01:20 PM

EXACTLY!
this is a complete rip-off plain and simple.
It is obvious imo that Warner did NOT do what they said they were going to do for this release.

Joe Cain · 10-29-2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copacetic2u

right.
that's the review I was talking about.
but look at article dated July 14th on high def digest about what was SUPPOSED to be coming out.
that's what I'm talking about.
It states "bd 50" plus tons of extras all outlined.
looks at the comments in the "review" thread.
everyone is asking what happened to this release.

Then maybe HDD didn't read the press release correctly. Josh reported here back in July that this re-release would be a BD-25...

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 01:24 PM

and that's what I am trying to determine.
so what about all the extras that were promised?
is this the final "ultimate edition"
gimme a break.

from what you just posted

"This almost certainly confirms that Warner has remastered the film"

uhhhh apparently not.

andyman1970 · 10-29-2008, 01:25 PM

It is the same release as year before last and the BD only comes in a tin can with a string of leg lamp lights. Only the DVD version is getting the extra disc with bonus features, the cookie cutters, recipe book and apron. looks like this might be a DVD purchase for me.

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 01:28 PM

ok that clears up something.
thanks!
the extras that CLEARLY should be on the Blu-ray "Ultimate" version are NOT on there.
great job Warner.
can't wait for the "Really Ultimate Version"

Warner really thinks we are all just pathetic tools don't they?

Red Hood · 10-29-2008, 02:10 PM

I am not a tool, sir.

kefrank · 10-29-2008, 03:00 PM

HDD seems to be the only place that reported the incorrect information, so I think the blame possibly falls on them and not Warner in this case. That being said, it's pretty clear that internal communication at Warner is terrible, so it's possible they got their info from someone at Warner who didn't know what they were talking about.

Blu Ray McHone · 10-29-2008, 03:05 PM

Hmmmm. I think Warner believes that they can get away with releasing junk.

lgans316 · 10-29-2008, 03:07 PM

You have been Warner'ed !!! A studio that embraces arrogance and laziness.

DrinkMore · 10-29-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copacetic2u

EXACTLY!
this is a complete rip-off plain and simple.
It is obvious imo that Warner did NOT do what they said they were going to do for this release.

Tell us again how this "new" version is a rip off? It has been known since this was announced that it was the same film, just new packaging. So why the gripe? Don't buy it.

fighthefutureofhd · 10-29-2008, 03:31 PM

well i wouldn't go that far.

fronn · 10-29-2008, 04:16 PM

A new encode isn't going to do anything for this movie. The current encode hits well into the mid 20's quite often and doesn't suffer from blocking (none noticeable) or any other nasty issues. It's just not a pretty film and never will be.

It looks about as good as it will ever... so I'm not sure what the benefit of a new encode on a BD-50 would be -- you'd never be able to tell the difference.

I'm also not sure where people got so confused... It was known long ago that it would just be the BD-25 with some new swag.

Arkadin · 10-29-2008, 05:09 PM

sorry I completely disagree.
a scanning of the original negative at 4k would result in MUCH better pq plain and simple. end of story. Now is that a major process that costs lost of $$?
absolutely.
but to say that some poor looking sub-par release such as this cannot be improved is simply not accurate imo.
It is amazing that a few people still don't seem to get that the dvd and the Blu-Ray are BOTH being billed as the "Ultimate edition" when clearly the bd is NOWHERE close.
forgiving Warner for leaving off the extras for the bd ultimate version is simply wrong imo.
I have supported many of Warner's efforts, but NOBODY should put up with this. If it is the same then DON'T call it an "Ultimate edition".
not too complicated imo.

it was also previously reported that the new "single" disc version would have different artwork to distinguish it from the "old" version.
looks like all of this has been thrown out the window.

10-29-2008, 12:22 PM	#1
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	Did Warner Lie Regarding "Ultimate" Christmas Story? what in the world is going on here? Warner said bd-50, new tranfer, tons of extras, but.... another website has received a copy of the "ultimate tin" and it is the SAME old bd-25 crap version!!! Was this some horrible mistake? where is the answer regarding this? No-one seems to be talking about this issue or have any answers as to if this is really true that there is NO new version as promised. Could Warner seriously get away with just putting some cookie cutters and the old crap bd in the new tin? thoughts?

10-29-2008, 01:06 PM	#4
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	specs were posted on high def digest regarding the bd-50 I believe and all the extras that were planned--good god. something very strange seems to be going on. well HDD definitely outlined this "ultimate version" you can go over there and read the article concerning this release coming out. I'm just trying to figure out how this info got so confused. Last edited by Arkadin; 10-29-2008 at 01:08 PM.

10-29-2008, 01:11 PM	#6
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	right. that's the review I was talking about. but look at article dated July 14th on high def digest about what was SUPPOSED to be coming out. that's what I'm talking about. It states "bd 50" plus tons of extras all outlined. looks at the comments in the "review" thread you just posted everyone is asking what happened to this release. where is the promised bd-50, new encode, etc. etc. there is no way HDD would have ever published that article on july 14th without direct info from Warner imo. botton line-Warner seems to have changed their mind for now about giving us a true "ultimate edition" I mean why the hell would they call this the "ultimate edition"? they were clearly planning what HDD reported imo. Last edited by Arkadin; 10-29-2008 at 01:17 PM.

10-29-2008, 05:09 PM	#20
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	sorry I completely disagree. a scanning of the original negative at 4k would result in MUCH better pq plain and simple. end of story. Now is that a major process that costs lost of $$? absolutely. but to say that some poor looking sub-par release such as this cannot be improved is simply not accurate imo. It is amazing that a few people still don't seem to get that the dvd and the Blu-Ray are BOTH being billed as the "Ultimate edition" when clearly the bd is NOWHERE close. forgiving Warner for leaving off the extras for the bd ultimate version is simply wrong imo. I have supported many of Warner's efforts, but NOBODY should put up with this. If it is the same then DON'T call it an "Ultimate edition". not too complicated imo. it was also previously reported that the new "single" disc version would have different artwork to distinguish it from the "old" version. looks like all of this has been thrown out the window. Last edited by Arkadin; 10-29-2008 at 05:17 PM.

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10-29-2008, 01:04 PM	#2
fatediesel Blu-ray Count Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Iowa Blu-ray collection:410 Trading Score:47	Where did you read it was on a bd-50? According to the announcement on this site it would be a bd-25, and there was no word on a new transfer. I would buy this movie if it was ever properly released with a good transfer and decent audio.

10-29-2008, 01:06 PM	#3
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:1005 Blu-ray collection:3678 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:301	It seemed to be common knowledge that it was the same old transfer was all. Nothing new on the disc from from I read. Still DD 1.0 track.

10-29-2008, 01:09 PM	#5
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	Same encode as the previous BD and HD-DVD. http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1627...story_uce.html

10-29-2008, 01:18 PM	#7
online365daysayear Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Newtown, PA Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:731 Trading Score:2	Looks like I will be returning my preorder since it doesn't have anything new except for a tin and some lights. What is so Ultimate about that?

10-29-2008, 01:20 PM	#8
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	EXACTLY! this is a complete rip-off plain and simple. It is obvious imo that Warner did NOT do what they said they were going to do for this release.

10-29-2008, 01:24 PM	#10
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	and that's what I am trying to determine. so what about all the extras that were promised? is this the final "ultimate edition" gimme a break. from what you just posted "This almost certainly confirms that Warner has remastered the film" uhhhh apparently not.

10-29-2008, 01:25 PM	#11
andyman1970 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Birmingham, Alabama, USA DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 45 Trading Score:7	It is the same release as year before last and the BD only comes in a tin can with a string of leg lamp lights. Only the DVD version is getting the extra disc with bonus features, the cookie cutters, recipe book and apron. looks like this might be a DVD purchase for me.

10-29-2008, 01:28 PM	#12
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	ok that clears up something. thanks! the extras that CLEARLY should be on the Blu-ray "Ultimate" version are NOT on there. great job Warner. can't wait for the "Really Ultimate Version" Warner really thinks we are all just pathetic tools don't they?

10-29-2008, 02:10 PM	#13
Red Hood Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:33	I am not a tool, sir.

10-29-2008, 03:00 PM	#14
kefrank Special Member Member since:Jul 2008 Blu-ray collection:60	HDD seems to be the only place that reported the incorrect information, so I think the blame possibly falls on them and not Warner in this case. That being said, it's pretty clear that internal communication at Warner is terrible, so it's possible they got their info from someone at Warner who didn't know what they were talking about.

10-29-2008, 03:05 PM	#15
Blu Ray McHone Expert Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Ohio Blu-ray reviews: 2	Hmmmm. I think Warner believes that they can get away with releasing junk.

10-29-2008, 03:07 PM	#16
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	You have been Warner'ed !!! A studio that embraces arrogance and laziness.

10-29-2008, 03:31 PM	#18
fighthefutureofhd Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Dry County	well i wouldn't go that far.

10-29-2008, 04:16 PM	#19
fronn Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:St. Paul, Minnesota Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	A new encode isn't going to do anything for this movie. The current encode hits well into the mid 20's quite often and doesn't suffer from blocking (none noticeable) or any other nasty issues. It's just not a pretty film and never will be. It looks about as good as it will ever... so I'm not sure what the benefit of a new encode on a BD-50 would be -- you'd never be able to tell the difference. I'm also not sure where people got so confused... It was known long ago that it would just be the BD-25 with some new swag.

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