christmas story ultimate collectors edition - Blu-ray Forum

LUkassZ · 10-10-2008, 03:10 AM

Does anyone know if the ultimate collectors edition will be better than the previously released bluray edition. I excitedly bought it when it was first released and it was complete garbage! stereo audio and lackluster video quality comparable to the DVD!

I know the second release of full metal jacket was much better, crossing my fingers that the same will go for this film...

sonicbox · 10-10-2008, 06:50 PM

By the way, the original movie was mono... so the last Blu-Ray was mono, too, and not even stereo.

I wouldn't expect any stunning visual improvement from this very low budget - but beloved - film. And I definitely wouldn't be too excited about a bad fake 5.1 or stereo mix.

saginawjuggalo · 10-10-2008, 07:05 PM

It's gonna be the same encode. It was reported on the front page news a while back.

St. John Smythe · 10-10-2008, 07:19 PM

I was also wondering, since there is also a new regular Blu-Ray edition coming out to without all the special packaging and new cover art.

sonicbox · 10-10-2008, 07:56 PM

The previous report of the master being identical was never an official statement from Warner. Full details weren't announced at the time. We'll see... but as I said, it likely won't make much of a difference.

olds403 · 10-10-2008, 08:28 PM

Considering that this was a low budget film released in the 80's I think it looks great. I don't understand why people wish to have a mono, mostly dialog driven movie remixed in super duper 7.1 surround. The movie would not benefit from it, the mono soundtrack is adequate. This is not an effects driven movie, it would benefit very little from surround remixing.

jimmymiro12 · 10-11-2008, 05:59 PM

I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

CheapChildren · 10-11-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmymiro12

I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

Where did you hear this?

jephdood · 10-11-2008, 08:34 PM

I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

SeanMF · 10-11-2008, 10:27 PM

So is the new version dd 5.1 now?

RedIsNotBlue · 10-11-2008, 10:37 PM

Yeah I just got the original release and I got say it looks and sounds just fine. I don't really understand why people would get so mad at this movie not having 5.1 audio it really wouldn't benefit it much at all.

jceperley · 10-12-2008, 12:01 AM

Found this on amazon:

I know its hard to read, but if you look closely in the grid, you can see that the specs looks to be the exact same as what we've already got. Just some new cover and (probably) disc art. Then you have the big tin that comes with all the little extras, which I'm probably gonna double dip on, but maybe I'll just stick with the DVD, cause Warners doesn't seem to want to make this one of those ones that improves with blu (too bad MGM doesn't still have the rights, imagine what they- through Fox- could do, DTS HD and a bunch of BD only extras).

olds403 · 10-12-2008, 12:58 PM

How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

sfmarine · 10-12-2008, 01:02 PM

Eh I think I'll pass...there's nothing great about this double dip...except the cookie cutters I guess. Anyone know how big the tin will be? Will it be BD size or dvd size?

RedIsNotBlue · 10-12-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olds403

How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

Oh come on that car chase scene with Ralphie and when him and his family go to that Metallica concert DTS-HD would make this movie kickass.

DVDSleuth · 10-18-2008, 02:48 AM

This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

Sir Platypus · 10-18-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jephdood

I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

The Fudge scene in 7.1. The sound just circling around you would be hilarious.

DigitalfreakNYC · 10-18-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDSleuth

This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

I'm assuming it's single layer as well?

Switchblade9 · 10-18-2008, 05:19 PM

It would be kind of fun to hear "the old man" cursing and clanking around in the cellar as he tries to get the furnace working. Or the Bumpus dogs running through the livingroom with the Christmas turkey. But I don't think the studio is going to spend the money to do it.

DVDSleuth · 10-31-2008, 03:34 AM

Just adding a second note that this is the exact same disc as the previous release. The final proof -- I watched a few minutes of the "new" disc (coming 11/4) and then I put in the "old" release and my PS3 read it as the same BD and started playing from the same spot.

10-10-2008, 03:10 AM	#1
LUkassZ Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	christmas story ultimate collectors edition Does anyone know if the ultimate collectors edition will be better than the previously released bluray edition. I excitedly bought it when it was first released and it was complete garbage! stereo audio and lackluster video quality comparable to the DVD! I know the second release of full metal jacket was much better, crossing my fingers that the same will go for this film...

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10-10-2008, 06:50 PM	#2
sonicbox Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	By the way, the original movie was mono... so the last Blu-Ray was mono, too, and not even stereo. I wouldn't expect any stunning visual improvement from this very low budget - but beloved - film. And I definitely wouldn't be too excited about a bad fake 5.1 or stereo mix.

10-10-2008, 07:05 PM	#3
saginawjuggalo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Saginaw, Michigan 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:2058 DVD collection:85 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:2	It's gonna be the same encode. It was reported on the front page news a while back.

10-10-2008, 07:19 PM	#4
St. John Smythe Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:209 DVD collection:472 MA collection:430 Digital collection:23 iTunes collection:163 Prime collection:5 Trading Score:123	I was also wondering, since there is also a new regular Blu-Ray edition coming out to without all the special packaging and new cover art.

10-10-2008, 07:56 PM	#5
sonicbox Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	The previous report of the master being identical was never an official statement from Warner. Full details weren't announced at the time. We'll see... but as I said, it likely won't make much of a difference.

10-10-2008, 08:28 PM	#6
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	Considering that this was a low budget film released in the 80's I think it looks great. I don't understand why people wish to have a mono, mostly dialog driven movie remixed in super duper 7.1 surround. The movie would not benefit from it, the mono soundtrack is adequate. This is not an effects driven movie, it would benefit very little from surround remixing.

10-11-2008, 05:59 PM	#7
jimmymiro12 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray collection:225 Trading Score:122	I heard it was a newly restored version with a different track for the sound. Also it has amazing goodies in the cookie tin

10-11-2008, 08:34 PM	#9
jephdood Expert Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Auburn, WA 4K collection:1210 Blu-ray collection:5191 DVD collection:86 Trading Score:256	I dunno.. I wouldn't mind hearing projectiles from Ralphie Parker's Red Ryder carbine-action 200-shot range model air rifle (with a compass in the stock) whizzing around the room 360.

10-11-2008, 10:27 PM	#10
SeanMF Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Iowa Home Theater Gallery:70 Blu-ray collection:1428 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:83	So is the new version dd 5.1 now?

10-11-2008, 10:37 PM	#11
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	Yeah I just got the original release and I got say it looks and sounds just fine. I don't really understand why people would get so mad at this movie not having 5.1 audio it really wouldn't benefit it much at all.

10-12-2008, 12:01 AM	#12
jceperley Expert Member Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:vancouver, bc 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- iTunes collection:-	Found this on amazon: I know its hard to read, but if you look closely in the grid, you can see that the specs looks to be the exact same as what we've already got. Just some new cover and (probably) disc art. Then you have the big tin that comes with all the little extras, which I'm probably gonna double dip on, but maybe I'll just stick with the DVD, cause Warners doesn't seem to want to make this one of those ones that improves with blu (too bad MGM doesn't still have the rights, imagine what they- through Fox- could do, DTS HD and a bunch of BD only extras).

10-12-2008, 12:58 PM	#13
olds403 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Michigan	How would the MONO soundtrack that is mainly DIALOG benefit from DTS-HD?? It did improve moving to blu-ray, it has 1080 video resolution. Be thankful there is a blu-ray at all.

10-12-2008, 01:02 PM	#14
sfmarine Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Swan Station aDdIcTeD 2 LOST PSN:U5MC51473 Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:930 Blu-ray collection:2311 DVD collection:276 MA collection:461 Digital collection:492 iTunes collection:534 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:43	Eh I think I'll pass...there's nothing great about this double dip...except the cookie cutters I guess. Anyone know how big the tin will be? Will it be BD size or dvd size?

10-18-2008, 02:48 AM	#16
DVDSleuth Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:919	This isn't even a double-dip, it's just a packaging change. I got my copy of the "new" Blu-ray Disc today (without the cookie jar), and the specs are exactly the same as the Disc released 12/5/06. I haven't opened it to watch it yet, but I was hoping that there would be something new that had been left out of the press release. This can only be recommended for those who don't already have this on Blu-ray.

10-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#19
Switchblade9 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:California Blu-ray collection:491	It would be kind of fun to hear "the old man" cursing and clanking around in the cellar as he tries to get the furnace working. Or the Bumpus dogs running through the livingroom with the Christmas turkey. But I don't think the studio is going to spend the money to do it.

10-31-2008, 03:34 AM	#20
DVDSleuth Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:919	Just adding a second note that this is the exact same disc as the previous release. The final proof -- I watched a few minutes of the "new" disc (coming 11/4) and then I put in the "old" release and my PS3 read it as the same BD and started playing from the same spot.

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