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Old 07-13-2007, 11:31 PM   #1
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Post Star Wars BDs - release date predictions?

I'm sure there are people who love it and others that hate it, but the Star Wars films when do you think (if) they bring the movies on Blu-Ray. What do you think is the Estimated Time of Arrival.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:35 PM   #2
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I for one wouldnt doubt if it took a good while - Lucas took 4ever to put them on DVD. Other than that, I dont have a clue.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:36 PM   #3
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:22 AM   #4
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2013, after we prevent the earth from blowing up...thanks to the mayans.
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Old 07-14-2007, 01:31 AM   #5
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Oh... you didn't hear. It's out now!

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Old 07-14-2007, 06:27 AM   #6
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It all depends on how quickly Blu Ray takes off. I think it might arrive faster than it did on DVD, but I think we'll be a good while away yet. I can wait to be honest, the DVD's look nice upscaled on my PS3. It's not as big an issue as it was with VHS to DVD - but I do still look forward to them coming.

I'm more excited these days about the release of Disney animation on Blu Ray.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:37 AM   #7
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Talking HD Wars..... Use the Force Blu......

Well I imagine Star Wars wil be released once HD-DVD is dead and Toshiba reveals that thier players could play Blu-Ray all along and laughs. But anyways I see Blu Stars Wars coming in a huge boxset for about $200 later next year. Maybe this Holiday season if they use the force to speed up the process of taking the film and remastering it top to bottom making it, Better than Perfect, Blu-Ray.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:08 PM   #8
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Lucas won't release anything for a LONG while on a new format. I'm guessing we won't see Indiana Jones until the 4th movie is out on DVD. That will be the first Lucus film. If that sells well, then maybe 6 months later he will release more.
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:19 PM   #9
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2013, after we prevent the earth from blowing up...thanks to the mayans.
Yeah well you forgot Sir Isaac Newton. He says the world is ending in 2060, according to the Bible.

Lucas has little interest in giving us what we want, until he gets tired of the endless petitions demanding it. He totally insulted the Star Wars fans who wanted the original versions of Eps 4, 5, and 6, when he released them on DVDs that were NOT anamorphic. What a di*k.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:40 PM   #10
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Do you have to be abusive about George Lucas? They are his movies and he can do what he wants with them.

I'm a longtime Star Wars fan of 30 years and I don't feel insulted by anything he's done, and I actually think the remastered DVD editions are, in most cases better than the original theatrical versions.

He doesn't hold a blaster pistol to your head and force you to buy every iteration of the movie he's ever released, and to be fair, there are plenty of other movies which have had far more re-releases on DVD than Star Wars has had.

I think the Lucas bashing that goes off on Internet forums is distasteful and plain nasty. George Lucas has actually contributed a huge amount to modern day film-making besides Star Wars. A lot of it has happened because of the success of Star Wars, but he should be applauded for the technological advancements that have been made through the years. Many films which we've enjoyed over the past 30 years would never have been possible without George Lucas and Star Wars. And for better or worse, he's responsible for transforming the landscape of movie-making and movie-marketing over the last 30 years.

I don't see any reasons for calling him a d*ck.
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #11
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Do you have to be abusive about George Lucas? They are his movies and he can do what he wants with them.

I'm a longtime Star Wars fan of 30 years and I don't feel insulted by anything he's done, and I actually think the remastered DVD editions are, in most cases better than the original theatrical versions.

He doesn't hold a blaster pistol to your head and force you to buy every iteration of the movie he's ever released, and to be fair, there are plenty of other movies which have had far more re-releases on DVD than Star Wars has had.

I think the Lucas bashing that goes off on Internet forums is distasteful and plain nasty. George Lucas has actually contributed a huge amount to modern day film-making besides Star Wars. A lot of it has happened because of the success of Star Wars, but he should be applauded for the technological advancements that have been made through the years. Many films which we've enjoyed over the past 30 years would never have been possible without George Lucas and Star Wars. And for better or worse, he's responsible for transforming the landscape of movie-making and movie-marketing over the last 30 years.

I don't see any reasons for calling him a d*ck.
Very true. Good post
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:30 PM   #12
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Do you have to be abusive about George Lucas? They are his movies and he can do what he wants with them.

I'm a longtime Star Wars fan of 30 years and I don't feel insulted by anything he's done, and I actually think the remastered DVD editions are, in most cases better than the original theatrical versions.

He doesn't hold a blaster pistol to your head and force you to buy every iteration of the movie he's ever released, and to be fair, there are plenty of other movies which have had far more re-releases on DVD than Star Wars has had.

I think the Lucas bashing that goes off on Internet forums is distasteful and plain nasty. George Lucas has actually contributed a huge amount to modern day film-making besides Star Wars. A lot of it has happened because of the success of Star Wars, but he should be applauded for the technological advancements that have been made through the years. Many films which we've enjoyed over the past 30 years would never have been possible without George Lucas and Star Wars. And for better or worse, he's responsible for transforming the landscape of movie-making and movie-marketing over the last 30 years.

I don't see any reasons for calling him a d*ck.
Yes he can do what he wants. By why did he have all his OTHER Star Wars releases in widescreen and then release the originals in non-anamorphic? You don't call that a poke in the eye to the fans that wanted the original versions? At the least it's lazy. And don't tell that the only versions he had of the originals were the laserdiscs. His mega-effects company could easily have remastered them in proper widescreen. With the history he's had with releasing Star Wars on VHS, then on DVD WAY LATER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, all of you are in for the same thing for Blu-Ray. A few years from now let's see if you want to cut Lucas some slack. We'll see.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:40 PM   #13
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In reading up on how they prepared the masters for the DVD release of Star Wars, it would appear that the masters are restored to the best quality they could possibly be, so all that really needs to be done is transferring them to bd, hopefully with kick ass uncompressed audio.

I enjoy Star Wars quite a bit, but I'd much rather have the Indiana Jones movies any day.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:29 PM   #14
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Yes he can do what he wants. By why did he have all his OTHER Star Wars releases in widescreen and then release the originals in non-anamorphic?
Here's what I know

About 18 months before the OT release, a friend of a friend that owns a full set of 35mm prints of the Trilogy got a letter from Lucas, demanding the return of the prints that yes, were probably in his possession slightly illegally (typically prints are returned to reclaim the silver, and sets often "accidentally" not destroyed and sold on the open market). But since he'd had them 20 years, there wasn't much they could do about it legally.

My guess is that they don't have good copies of the unaltered versions any more, and that to reassemble them would have cost more than they were likely to make to satisfy a fairly small (judging by sales) but vocal contingent.

As long as Han shoots first I'm happy
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:27 PM   #16
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Lucas is very profit concious so you can bet he'll wait till its most profitable. So your looking at a few years from now.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:57 AM   #17
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Funny to know that Lucas thought that Close Encounters of the Third Kind was going to outsell his Star Wars massively. He goes to see Spielberg for some tips and then come to an agreement, seeing as they are old friends, Speilberg says I will give you 2% of anything that is made from Close Encounters and you give me 2% from anything made by Star Wars.

No wonder Spielberg always looks happy.
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Yeah well you forgot Sir Isaac Newton. He says the world is ending in 2060, according to the Bible.
Actually, Newton only said that the Bible didn't support a date for the end of the world *any sooner* than 2060, but was quite clear that he believed it would be later than that (according to the Bible).

Lucas ONLY released the films on DVD because HD had launched but hadn't reached general public awareness. If he'd waited any longer some who bought them might have held out for HD versions instead. I am - and will only buy them if they are a quality product.
Even after all of the wait they were crappy transfers even for DVD, as has already been pointed out.

When they do appear on Blu-ray (if they ever do) they will again be lousy transfers and will probably NOT have lossless audio, but the same audio tracks already on the DVDs. Instead, they will PROBABLY be on one-time or limited-viewing download - with lousy transfers and obviously one one choice for audio which will probably be lousy.

Lucas released a new VHS set every couple of years once they hit the street because people would buy them for the "new" extras and because of the degraded quality of their now 10-times-watched/stretched tapes. He did release two sets on LaserDisc - presumably because they were just optically encoded prints of the VHS versions.

Most buck for the least work and marketed for the greatest profit. That's Lucas. It's pretty sick. MOST other producers of products with high demand understand and abide by the fact that there is a compromise between their desire to get the best return for their product and the customers expectation of quality. That's completely lost on Lucas.
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My guess is that they don't have good copies of the unaltered versions any more, and that to reassemble them would have cost more than they were likely to make to satisfy a fairly small (judging by sales) but vocal contingent.

As long as Han shoots first I'm happy
Don't have good copies of the originals??!! You have GOT to be kidding! Of COURSE they have the original negatives and some of the original prints, and in excellent condition. What do you think they used to make the theatrical re-release films from? Did they keep the original material for 20 years then lose them in the last 10? I don't think so.

Calling Lucas names is going overboard, but apologizing for what is obviously fairly reprehensible treatment of the fans is almost worse.

They guy did a lot of great things we should all be happy about. And we should be honest and up-front about that. But he has been stiffing fans on more than Star Wars for a long time. Indiana Jones on DVD only in 2003? That's pitiful, also.
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:33 AM   #20
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He did release two sets on LaserDisc - presumably because they were just optically encoded prints of the VHS versions.
errr.. I think there were a couple more than that, and actually, the THX VHSes in a sense came from them (they were Dolby Stereo THX Surround LPCM on the Laserdisc and VHS Hi Fi, and I have previous LPCM (but non THX) DolbySurround widescreen versions (with truer original "color" too) than those, and there were Pan/scan LD versions with analog and digital sound before that etc etc (I've lost track how many video and sound edits/recolorings/mixes STAR WARS has had. I think like 7 or 8 or so)

The latest DVD of the "Originals" is the THX LD, having for example STAR WARS video version 1 "reconstructed", with audio mix 6, and the SE SE version that has video version 4 with mix 8, on one case. If I'm not lost
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