Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 3D (2016) [Region Free]

[RickStar]

Supposedly, Gareth Edward's 'Monsters', from 2010, was considered for a 3D conversion. Here's what Gareth had to say about it:

"They talked about doing this [Monsters] in 3D, and they looked into it, but thank god they didn’t bother."

http://collider.com/gareth-edwards-e...view-monsters/


As for Godzilla, both he and his cinematographer, Seamus McGarvey, acknowledged that "We shot “Godzilla” as though it were a 2D movie."

http://www.pushing-pixels.org/2013/1...-mcgarvey.html


I have yet to come across any quotes for Rogue One but I'm sure it's the same story, shot as a 2D movie. Not that that's the end of the world, some movies shot as 2D translate well to conversion. It all depends on the filmmaker's style. But Gareth's camera work doesn't seem to naturally lend itself to conversion. And Gareth's apparent lack of interest in 3D doesn't help.

I do think that Stereo D did a great job with what they were given.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Sorry, but no. That is the same 3d we saw in cinemas. They just ported it across to blu-ray. That made no impact between the difference in the 3d at all. The 3d in cinemas for TFA was well done and that shows on the disc, the 3d in rogue one was underwhelming until the finale and that also shows on the disc, just as it was in cinemas. Both transfers to blu-ray where done at a reference level from a video perspective. The issue is the differing quality of the 3d conversion which was released into cinemas for both.

The taken longer to get to blu-ray was just a ploy to maximise profits and made no difference to the presentation at all.

I agree. Force Awakens 3D blu ray is EXACTLY the same as the cinema presentation.

[DJR662]

Will watch my UK copy this weekend.

[Zivouhr]

Star Wars Celebration Live, Star Wars link on youtube.com for the Star Wars Celebration Thursday through Sunday. The video starts around 30 minutes in.
Channel Star Wars:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q

EDIT: They took down the video and will repost it in segments probably later today.
Guests included George Lucas, Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Billy Dee Williams, Anthony Daniels, Chewbacca, Warrick Davis, etc. Then a short tribute to Leia Carrie Fisher and then John Williams conducted the orchestra.

[BossTweed]

This past Saturday in Johnson City Tennessee. I went to Target to get the 3D Star Wars Rogue One blu-ray. They were sold out. I went to Best Buy. Also sold out. I went to Walmart. Sold out! Normally, I consider this good news of 3D blu-ray sales in the USA. What I despise is two things. People buying it and not watching it just to have it in their collection or selling it on ebay or amazon at extremely expensive prices. Stores not having sufficent copies of it in stock!

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by BossTweed

This past Saturday in Johnson City Tennessee. I went to Target to get the 3D Star Wars Rogue One blu-ray. They were sold out. I went to Best Buy. Also sold out. I went to Walmart. Sold out! Normally, I consider this good news of 3D blu-ray sales in the USA. What I despise is two things. People buying it and not watching it just to have it in their collection or selling it on ebay or amazon at extremely expensive prices. Stores not having sufficent copies of it in stock!

I agree that some will buy 20 copies and then resell them for twice as much online since they're collector items with the rare packaging. Sorry to hear about that. It's good to hear it's selling well, but not when you can't find it anywhere.
It's a nice set, so hopefully you'll get to see it soon.

[eddievanhalen]

My Philips 4K is just average displaying 3D but with Rogue One I get PLENTY of ghosting. Has this happened to more people to get more than normal ghosting on their T.V. sets or is it only on mine?

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

My Philips 4K is just average displaying 3D but with Rogue One I get PLENTY of ghosting. Has this happened to more people to get more than normal ghosting on their T.V. sets or is it only on mine?

I haven't had ghosting on my 3DTVs, though unless I could see your set up and seating, it's hard to tell, other than a few factors.

Keeping in mind, Rogue One really pushes the whole picture back into the screen (reaching in) even though the 3D layers are mostly low medium to medium, then eventually amp up later on. By pushing the image back so far, it increases the double image separation in the backgrounds (foreground is usually blended as nearly a single image to keep it within the screen) so if you're sitting at even a slightly off angle, you'll notice those double images as ghosting until you're directly lined up properly with your 3DTV. Once lined up, the ghosting should disappear in most cases unless there's a high contrast shot with bright neon lights against a plain, dark background with stronger 3D.

Some people will put their 3D TV on a wall above their sight line. This has the tendency to not only result in ghosting due to having the wrong angle, but can also greatly diminish the effect of the 3D. With current 3DTV tech, being lined up makes all of the difference.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I haven't had ghosting on my 3DTVs, though unless I could see your set up and seating, it's hard to tell, other than a few factors.

Keeping in mind, Rogue One really pushes the whole picture back into the screen (reaching in) even though the 3D layers are mostly low medium to medium, then eventually amp up later on. By pushing the image back so far, it increases the double image separation in the backgrounds (foreground is usually blended as nearly a single image to keep it within the screen) so if you're sitting at even a slightly off angle, you'll notice those double images as ghosting until you're directly lined up properly with your 3DTV. Once lined up, the ghosting should disappear in most cases unless there's a high contrast shot with bright neon lights against a plain, dark background with stronger 3D.

Some people will put their 3D TV on a wall above their sight line. This has the tendency to not only result in ghosting due to having the wrong angle, but can also greatly diminish the effect of the 3D. With current 3DTV tech, being lined up makes all of the difference.

Thanks for your reply. I think that's me and my T.V. being off angle on the vetical axis, the T.V. is slightly higher, no more than 10 cms. respect to me. That can be it, isn't it?

[Frank@Chicago]

The only ghosting I saw in Rogue One was in the lava waterfall fly-by scene.

Just watched it again tonight with the wife, very clear PQ and good 3D depth.

By comparison, I put in Force Awakens just double check it on a different player.

When Finn has a panic attack in that storage container and takes off his stormtrooper helmet, his face and armor and background all buzz with video noise.

I'm not really sure why so many people feel FA is a reference quality transfer, it's muddy looking to me often and alot of the darker scenes seem to have video noise.

That's not to say it's a bad movie or anything, i just don't think it's video is reference quality.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

The only ghosting I saw in Rogue One was in the lava waterfall fly-by scene.

Just watched it again tonight with the wife, very clear PQ and good 3D depth.

By comparison, I put in Force Awakens just double check it on a different player.

When Finn has a panic attack in that storage container and takes off his stormtrooper helmet, his face and armor and background all buzz with video noise.

I'm not really sure why so many people feel FA is a reference quality transfer, it's muddy looking to me often and alot of the darker scenes seem to have video noise.

That's not to say it's a bad movie or anything, i just don't think it's video is reference quality.

Keep in mind that TFA was shot on 35mm film, what you think it's video noise it may well be film grain. What I don't like about TFA is that it's "plasticky" looking at times. Film shot movies have to be degrained to be converted to 3D, that's where this plasticky looking comes. Digital filmed movies don't have grain, they're more clean looking and they can be converted to 3D with no tampering on picture.

[BossTweed]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

Walmart didn't get a 3D release.

My Target;s had plenty of stock on Friday/Saturday when I ran the numbers, but several now showing OOS or only a few left. Not sure if they started sending them back or the weekend caught up to the inventory and the end of the SW discount codes.

It is strange that I'm getting quite different numbers via Brickseek than I'm seeing at the Target website though. Brickseek says my closest store has 10, but online says sold out. One of the stores says they have 80 copies of teh exclusive so I'm guessing something isn't correct. Normally I trust brickseek to be close, but occasionally DPCI number gets crossed and the regular editions get counted in the exclusives

Bristol lists 14 in stock by Brickseek (2 by website), but I'm not sure I believe it or you'd want to drive that far (20 miles is my closest store anyway). I guess you could call and check to make sure it's the correct item if you're on a mission.

Walmart is always a gamble with 3D. The Target website says Bristol is out of stock. I'll try Brickseek.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Thanks for your reply. I think that's me and my T.V. being off angle on the vetical axis, the T.V. is slightly higher, no more than 10 cms. respect to me. That can be it, isn't it?

That's true that even being slightly off alignment with the 3D screen can affect the 3D picture. If it's placed higher, a solution would be to safely find a way to angle the 3DTV so it matches your seating angle 3D glasses.

[bud_brigman]

I've found that the sight line for me needs to be about the middle of the TV. Any higher or lower, and I start to see ghosting, from minor to major, the more off-center I get.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

Keep in mind that TFA was shot on 35mm film, what you think it's video noise it may well be film grain. What I don't like about TFA is that it's "plasticky" looking at times. Film shot movies have to be degrained to be converted to 3D, that's where this plasticky looking comes. Digital filmed movies don't have grain, they're more clean looking and they can be converted to 3D with no tampering on picture.

That they don't. My evidence is 3d films shoot on film before dnr was a thing along with the many scenes that look fine in TFA. Likewise those plasticy shoots exist in the 2d version of the film as well and there is nothing to suggest the 3d version did anything notable, if anything at all in that regard.

[Joe D.]

Found the movie a bit boring, basically a repetition of the star wars formula with little imagination or ingenuity except for the last sixty seconds.

The 3D quality was surprisingly mediocre, though it doesn't mean one would have been better off watching it flat. It's just that with all that was going on, there was opportunity for so much more.

Just didn't enjoy the film as I thought I would because of the overall reviews. Guess rehashing an old story line with so much predictably for some can make a franchise seem stale, even for a prequel.

[DJR662]

Just finished watching it for the first time at home and I liked what I saw 3D and PQ wise. Moreover I actually enjoyed the movie better this time than when I first saw it in cinemas last year.

[don3663]

Never saw this in theatres.

Loved it on BR though. Really disappointed in myself for not watching in IMAX.

PQ and 3D was great to me. On my W1070 there was no ghosting at all. It's not a very 3D heavy movie though. I remember TFA having better 3D effects.

[Zivouhr]

The outer space shots tend to look better in 3D in Rogue One, mostly during the final act of the film. The pit chasm with the data records is probably the best 3D in the film.

[Richard--W]

The big weakness in this film is Diego Luna. A different personality, warmer and more open, was needed for Cassian Andor. Luna's actually very good here, surprisingly good in fact, but he's not the right actor. Someone more like Forest Whitaker, who has a character role, would have been perfect. I know many will disagree, but that's how I read it.