120 hz ... perhap too much ruin the experience>?

[yellowblanket]

my tv came yesturday. It is the Phillip 47" 1080p 120hz. My first movie? the dark knight. i realized that perhap when the picture is too clear, it feel cheap in a way. I feel like i'm watching the news, i put the mode in movie but it would only help a bit. It's just so crystal clear it's sickening.

However i freaking love Wall-e, so animate is okay to be clear but when i watch a movie with real people, it just disgusting.

Maybe i should get use to this?> it's like a whole new experience good and bad all at the same time.

What your thought on this?

[zweet77]

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

my tv came yesturday. It is the Phillip 47" 1080p 120hz. the picture is too clear, it feel cheap in a way. It's just so crystal clear it's sickening.

No really i know what you mean alot of people hate the motion flow stuff that is on the 120hz sets.

[BLURAYSONYES]

go to your menu settings and turn off the 120hz

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

my tv came yesturday. It is the Phillip 47" 1080p 120hz. My first movie? the dark knight. i realized that perhap when the picture is too clear, it feel cheap in a way. I feel like i'm watching the news, i put the mode in movie but it would only help a bit. It's just so crystal clear it's sickening.

However i freaking love Wall-e, so animate is okay to be clear but when i watch a movie with real people, it just disgusting.

Maybe i should get use to this?> it's like a whole new experience good and bad all at the same time.

What your thought on this?

What you are experiencing is called "HD Natural Motion". It's a feature that all 120hz HDTV's have under one name or another, "MotionFlow" and things of that nature. Go under your settings for the TV and turn that feature off and your movies will start to look "normal" again.

[bassbone57]

Originally Posted by yellowblanket

my tv came yesturday. It is the Phillip 47" 1080p 120hz. My first movie? the dark knight. i realized that perhap when the picture is too clear, it feel cheap in a way. I feel like i'm watching the news, i put the mode in movie but it would only help a bit. It's just so crystal clear it's sickening.

However i freaking love Wall-e, so animate is okay to be clear but when i watch a movie with real people, it just disgusting.

Maybe i should get use to this?> it's like a whole new experience good and bad all at the same time.

What your thought on this?

What's the matter, you don't enjoy being "seasick"?

-K

[plowmanjoe]

Originally Posted by BLURAYSONYES

go to your menu settings and turn off the 120hz

i'm pretty sure you can't turn off 120hz. you probably mean the motion enhance settings

[Flyfrnk1624]

Originally Posted by plowmanjoe

i'm pretty sure you can't turn off 120hz. you probably mean the motion enhance settings

No, you can. There should be an option to turn it on or off somewhere in your settings. I usually keep it on for football games, but other than that it makes things look really weird.

[ryoohki]

You should'nt turn off 120hz, only Motion Flow or Enhancement. Why because a l ot of TV do 5:5 on Blu-ray at 120hz with doesn't enhancement the motion but preserve the 24fps from the Blu-ray

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by Flyfrnk1624

No, you can. There should be an option to turn it on or off somewhere in your settings. I usually keep it on for football games, but other than that it makes things look really weird.

Actually, no you can't. 120hz is the refresh rate of the TV so it's not something you can turn off and on. What makes Blu-rays look weird on a 120hz HDTV is the motion enhancer that's a setting on the TV (MotionFlow, Natural Motion or what have you.) that can be turned off and on.

[yellowblanket]

yup, got it! geez, it's kinda like eattign a steak with alot of A1, Now completly remove the A1 and the steak doesn't seem as good. You know i just like a little bit of A1! ... lol


i guess we will never be satisfy with thing... (that what she said)

[Leopold BUTTERS]

motion enhancement

[maygit]

I absolutely love the motion enhancer myself and so do all of my friends/coworkers. It gives the feeling as if your standing behind that camera watching it all happen right in front of you. I will agree it does suck when it makes it so realistic that you can easily tell when they used special effects(like Harvey Dents face on fire in DK) or even if they did it green screen on a stage but overall i feel it's totally worth it and it will only push the next generation of special effects that much further.

[yankees3]

paying extra for a 120htz tv is a waste. Makes the freakn movie look live...like its being filmed right in front of you! The only thing the 120htz is good for is sports...like football. And yes you can turn off the motion flow...just read your manuel or go throught your settings.

[Lepidopterous]

It's the green-screen effect!

It's not apparent on animated movies. But the motion-flow during real movies gets really, really annoying. That's why I'm kind of glad I went with the 60Hz for 3-400 bucks less. It definitely helps with movies like Kung Fu Panda though.

Originally Posted by Leopold BUTTERS

motion enhancement

[nismo604]

Originally Posted by yankees3

paying extra for a 120htz tv is a waste. Makes the freakn movie look live...like its being filmed right in front of you! The only thing the 120htz is good for is sports...like football. And yes you can turn off the motion flow...just read your manuel or go throught your settings.

Completely disagree with you, more than worth the money. If you have a 120hz TV playing 24p sources such as Blu-ray eliminates the need to apply 3:2 pulldown thus reducing the judder. People always seem to mistake motion enhancer and 120hz as the same but that definately isn't the case. Blame the marketing people I guess. I have my motion enhancer off.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by nismo604

Completely disagree with you, more than worth the money. If you have a 120hz TV playing 24p sources such as Blu-ray eliminates the need to apply 3:2 pulldown thus reducing the judder. People always seem to mistake motion enhancer and 120hz as the same but that definately isn't the case. Blame the marketing people I guess. I have my motion enhancer off.

Exactly. The amount of incorrect information and plain out FUD regarding 120hz always blows my mind. It seems like very few people understand that 120hz is just the refresh rate of the set, and Motionflow is an enhancement that can be turned off.

[HD 335]

Threads and FUD comments/replies about 120hz looking like "soap operas" is especially prevalent now since 120hz TVs are starting to become more common. Typically all the people who reply with FUD remarks don't even own a 120hz TV.

I have two TVs that utilize 120hz technology and it does help with judder being it's 5:5 pulldown rather than 3:2. I know my Sony XBR4 can't turn off 120 refresh rate and I assume my Samsung 750 is the same. But both, and I assume like all other manufacturers using 120hz, will allow you to turn off ALL POST PROCESSING video features like Cinemotion, Auto Motion Plus, Film Enhancement, Motion Enhancer... etc. Read your manual or check out AVS forum for your particular model.

[Lepidopterous]

True but some people might also be saying the motion-flow that comes with the 120 Hz contributes to the price difference. That's what I was saying, because why pay more when you won't even use some of the benefits that the TV advertises...

[HD 335]

Originally Posted by DjMethod

True but some people might also be saying the motion-flow that comes with the 120 Hz contributes to the price difference. That's what I was saying, because why pay more when you won't even use some of the benefits that the TV advertises...

I was responded to what I believe the OP is referencing, in that he doesn't like the display output that's probably due to him leaving his post video processing feature on. By turning these features off, he might enjoy his TV a bit more.

This has nothing to do with price and personal preferences of a TVs usage. Common sense dictates that everyone has personal preferences and usage for a TV. Some like it for gaming, others like it for sports and some are primarily movie watching. 120Hz technology does in fact help with judder, how much and can the average non-videophile discern a difference? That's up to each person to decide and determine whether the additional cost is worth it.

[SDBlu]

Originally Posted by maygit

I absolutely love the motion enhancer myself and so do all of my friends/coworkers. It gives the feeling as if your standing behind that camera watching it all happen right in front of you. I will agree it does suck when it makes it so realistic that you can easily tell when they used special effects(like Harvey Dents face on fire in DK) or even if they did it green screen on a stage but overall i feel it's totally worth it and it will only push the next generation of special effects that much further.

+1 I Love 120Hz with Motion Enhancer Set to high. What are these people talking about TOO CLEAR! I thought that was WHY we got into this High Defenition business in the first place! If it is TOO CLEAR then go back to 480 resolution...cuz 1080P is not for you...