Did anyone NOT like "Batman Begins?" - Blu-ray Forum

jcarugati · 01-02-2009, 06:39 PM

This is in response to "The Dark Knight" thread.

I'm just curious what people thought of "Begins" and "Dark Knight."

I personally like "Begins" more.

Does anyone not like "Begins," but loves "Knight?"

Blu-Benny · 01-02-2009, 06:46 PM

loved both of them.

HeavyHitter · 01-02-2009, 06:49 PM

I liked "Begins" better too.

osubuckly · 01-02-2009, 06:50 PM

I like Batman Begins more and more each time I watch it. When it first came out, I thought it was pretty good, but not great. Now a think it is only a half step behind The Dark Knight. It almost works better as a prequel to TDK, rather than the start of a franchise.

JoePa2624 · 01-02-2009, 06:51 PM

I like TDK more but loved them both. I'm a Christopher Nolan fan though so I like most of his movies.

Kaiju · 01-02-2009, 06:52 PM

I love em both. The transfer for BB isn't that great though.

Twankies08 · 01-02-2009, 07:10 PM

I loved "Begins" because of Scarecrow!!

assydingo · 01-02-2009, 07:16 PM

I'd say it's a little long... but I actually love that it's long. It just makes it a little hard for repeat viewings.

Jmills · 01-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Its kind of unimaginable to me for someone to like one but not the other. They compliment themselves very well. Begins is a reboot... Of course its going to focus more on batman/bruce wayne, because they need to set his origins in place. The Dark Knight was strictly about the MISSION, while wrapping up loose ends with Rachael while the Joker was creating nonstop chaos.

It will be a trilogy and at the end of it, will be one of the greatest trilogies in cinema.

dvd_mazter · 01-02-2009, 07:22 PM

Both are in my top ten. BB is a fantastic movie but TDK just tops everything that BB did so well.

Clark Kent · 01-02-2009, 07:23 PM

I love them both but honestly I liked the storyline in Batman Begins more. The Dark Knight is really a movie about the Joker with Batman as more of a supporting character than anything else. I also like Katie Holmes more than the actress in the Dark Knight.

Blu_Ray_Fan · 01-02-2009, 07:25 PM

This has nothing to do with this thread

, but... Why is Racheal different from "Begins" to "TDK"?

I never saw BB and waited for TDK on Blu. I watched them right after each other (LONG movies night

) and was kind of thrown off by that...

Btw, I enjoyed them both. I want to see BB again. I have watched TDK 3 times on Blu since release (it's been a popular request over the holidays!).

Jmills · 01-02-2009, 07:25 PM

Yeah, but I think a characther like the Joker, especially Heath's take on him deserves to be in the movie more than Batman. I honestly felt that Nolan did a great job making sure neither were off screen for too long.

big-bleu · 01-02-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twankies08

I loved "Begins" because of Scarecrow!!

scarecrow is also in dark knight

JamesKurtovich · 01-02-2009, 07:30 PM

I loved them both, but they just seem to employ different styles. Batman Begins is more of a "travelling warrior" story where Bruce leaves the comfort of his mansion and goes to Asia and trains under Ducard (Liam Neeson). He comes back and fights the bad guys. Gotham in this movie is obviously darker and much more greasy. The ones we remember in the classic films. However, The Dark Knight, we see a cleaned up Gotham but the movie's villiain is different than what we're used to. The Joker is an amazing villain thanks to his character and the actor that portrayed him. He was much more entertaining to watch than any of the villains in Begins. He's ruthless, frightening, and so much fun. Plus, you have the more epic-esque style of The Dark Knight. The scene in which the hospital blew to pieces with the Joker walking off like a penguin or something was amazing and looked very real. So.. I don't know. I was more entertained by TDK.

jkcheng122 · 01-02-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu_Ray_Fan

This has nothing to do with this thread

, but... Why is Racheal different from "Begins" to "TDK"?

I never saw BB and waited for TDK on Blu. I watched them right after each other (LONG movies night

) and was kind of thrown off by that...

Btw, I enjoyed them both. I want to see BB again. I have watched TDK 3 times on Blu since release (it's been a popular request over the holidays!).

word is katie holmes turned down the opportunity to reprise the role.

hanumang · 01-02-2009, 07:34 PM

I wasn't a huge fan of Begins. Can't explain exactly why, it just seemed less than the sum of its parts to me.

Part of it, I'm sure, was that I had exorbitantly high expectations going into it - I loved Nolan's previous work, loved the great casting choices (Michael Caine as Alfred!!!, of course Bale as Bruce) and Bats is my favorite comics character - so nothing might have measured up.

On the other hand, being disappointed by Begins meant I had low expectations for The Dark Knight (didn't think the trailers for it were all that enticing, either) and was very pleasantly surprised. Happy to see the Joker realized authentically (outside of the comics), for once in my life.

Of course I own both films, so it's not like I hated Begins or anything...

perfectdark · 01-02-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkcheng122

word is katie holmes turned down the opportunity to reprise the role.

Thank god, Katie Holmes can't act worth sh*t .... go back to Dawson's Creek LOL

Loved both films, TDK was better IMO

JamesKurtovich · 01-02-2009, 07:36 PM

Katie Holmes not being Rachel Dawes in TDK also bothered me, but not as much to ruin the film for me. I still felt it better than its predecessor.

Maybe Katie is protesting that it's Tom Cruise's turn to be Batman. He seems to be the only actor out there that hasn't become a superhero.

Blu_Ray_Fan · 01-02-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkcheng122

word is katie holmes turned down the opportunity to reprise the role.

What a dumba$$ mistake! I'm sure there would've a nice chunk of change for her

01-02-2009, 06:39 PM	#1
jcarugati Active Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:501	Did anyone NOT like "Batman Begins?" This is in response to "The Dark Knight" thread. I'm just curious what people thought of "Begins" and "Dark Knight." I personally like "Begins" more. Does anyone not like "Begins," but loves "Knight?"

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01-02-2009, 06:46 PM	#2
Blu-Benny Michael Bay's #1 Fan Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Wisconsin Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:552 DVD collection:108 Trading Score:138	loved both of them.

01-02-2009, 06:49 PM	#3
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	I liked "Begins" better too.

01-02-2009, 06:50 PM	#4
osubuckly Member Member since:Jul 2008	I like Batman Begins more and more each time I watch it. When it first came out, I thought it was pretty good, but not great. Now a think it is only a half step behind The Dark Knight. It almost works better as a prequel to TDK, rather than the start of a franchise.

01-02-2009, 06:51 PM	#5
JoePa2624 Member Member since:Jul 2008	I like TDK more but loved them both. I'm a Christopher Nolan fan though so I like most of his movies.

01-02-2009, 06:52 PM	#6
Kaiju Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:448 Blu-ray collection:1233 Trading Score:102	I love em both. The transfer for BB isn't that great though.

01-02-2009, 07:10 PM	#7
Twankies08 Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Panama City, Florida Blu-ray collection:168 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:18	I loved "Begins" because of Scarecrow!!

01-02-2009, 07:16 PM	#8
assydingo Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:483 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:3	I'd say it's a little long... but I actually love that it's long. It just makes it a little hard for repeat viewings.

01-02-2009, 07:19 PM	#9
Jmills Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:55 Blu-ray reviews:16	Its kind of unimaginable to me for someone to like one but not the other. They compliment themselves very well. Begins is a reboot... Of course its going to focus more on batman/bruce wayne, because they need to set his origins in place. The Dark Knight was strictly about the MISSION, while wrapping up loose ends with Rachael while the Joker was creating nonstop chaos. It will be a trilogy and at the end of it, will be one of the greatest trilogies in cinema.

01-02-2009, 07:22 PM	#10
dvd_mazter Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Winnipeg, Manitoba Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:740 Blu-ray reviews: 146	Both are in my top ten. BB is a fantastic movie but TDK just tops everything that BB did so well.

01-02-2009, 07:23 PM	#11
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	I love them both but honestly I liked the storyline in Batman Begins more. The Dark Knight is really a movie about the Joker with Batman as more of a supporting character than anything else. I also like Katie Holmes more than the actress in the Dark Knight.

01-02-2009, 07:25 PM	#12
Blu_Ray_Fan Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:104 Blu-ray reviews:1	This has nothing to do with this thread , but... Why is Racheal different from "Begins" to "TDK"? I never saw BB and waited for TDK on Blu. I watched them right after each other (LONG movies night ) and was kind of thrown off by that... Btw, I enjoyed them both. I want to see BB again. I have watched TDK 3 times on Blu since release (it's been a popular request over the holidays!).

01-02-2009, 07:30 PM	#15
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	I loved them both, but they just seem to employ different styles. Batman Begins is more of a "travelling warrior" story where Bruce leaves the comfort of his mansion and goes to Asia and trains under Ducard (Liam Neeson). He comes back and fights the bad guys. Gotham in this movie is obviously darker and much more greasy. The ones we remember in the classic films. However, The Dark Knight, we see a cleaned up Gotham but the movie's villiain is different than what we're used to. The Joker is an amazing villain thanks to his character and the actor that portrayed him. He was much more entertaining to watch than any of the villains in Begins. He's ruthless, frightening, and so much fun. Plus, you have the more epic-esque style of The Dark Knight. The scene in which the hospital blew to pieces with the Joker walking off like a penguin or something was amazing and looked very real. So.. I don't know. I was more entertained by TDK.

01-02-2009, 07:34 PM	#17
hanumang Member Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:17 Blu-ray reviews:1	I wasn't a huge fan of Begins. Can't explain exactly why, it just seemed less than the sum of its parts to me. Part of it, I'm sure, was that I had exorbitantly high expectations going into it - I loved Nolan's previous work, loved the great casting choices (Michael Caine as Alfred!!!, of course Bale as Bruce) and Bats is my favorite comics character - so nothing might have measured up. On the other hand, being disappointed by Begins meant I had low expectations for The Dark Knight (didn't think the trailers for it were all that enticing, either) and was very pleasantly surprised. Happy to see the Joker realized authentically (outside of the comics), for once in my life. Of course I own both films, so it's not like I hated Begins or anything...

01-02-2009, 07:36 PM	#19
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	Katie Holmes not being Rachel Dawes in TDK also bothered me, but not as much to ruin the film for me. I still felt it better than its predecessor. Maybe Katie is protesting that it's Tom Cruise's turn to be Batman. He seems to be the only actor out there that hasn't become a superhero.

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