PS3 1080i Help - Blu-ray Forum

phee · 07-30-2007, 04:55 AM

I just got my PS3 today and I got component cables for my machine because my reciever (that i use as a switch) doesn't have HDMI. The component cables is connected to the multi-out not from the HDMI port of the PS3. Anyhow, my tv supports 1080i but when I try and set my display settings to 1080i it does not let me, I can only get 720P. On my dvd player (which is also run through the receiver) I can get it to 1080i but how come I can't get my PS3 to do it? any suggestions or comments? I'm using the official component cable from Sony and I have firmware 1.90.

Do I have to get a "HDMI to Component" cable to get 1080i?

Please help. thanks.

miked924 · 07-30-2007, 05:36 AM

HDMI to component cables don't exist, you should be able to get 1080i over component though

supersix4 · 07-30-2007, 05:39 AM

It could be your tv, I have read that if its a lower end set it can sometimes only out-put 720p on ps3's and hd-dvd players/blu-ray players. if you have one of those that could be the case

Eclipse6211 · 07-30-2007, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by phee

I just got my PS3 today and I got component cables for my machine because my reciever (that i use as a switch) doesn't have HDMI. The component cables is connected to the multi-out not from the HDMI port of the PS3. Anyhow, my tv supports 1080i but when I try and set my display settings to 1080i it does not let me, I can only get 720P. On my dvd player (which is also run through the receiver) I can get it to 1080i but how come I can't get my PS3 to do it? any suggestions or comments? I'm using the official component cable from Sony and I have firmware 1.90.

Do I have to get a "HDMI to Component" cable to get 1080i?

Please help. thanks.

Does your TV have HDMI or DVI??? If it does I would run an HDMI/DVI cable to the TV and use optical for your receiver.

phee · 07-30-2007, 07:02 AM

my dvd player can put out a 1080i signal to the TV and when it does the tV flashes and in the upper left corner it says "Component 1 1080i". I currently have the PS3 at 720P, when I try and set it to 1080i my TV jumps to 480i looking all messed up with double vision and scan lines etc., weird huh?

Anyhow, my TV does not have HDMI but it does have DVI, the only problem with using DVI is my remote. I no longer use the TV remote since everything is comming from one source (my receiver) I just use my receiver remote to turn on the TV; so using an HDMI to DVI cable would mean adding a 3rd remote to my coffee table and an extra step when I want to switch to my PS3. I already do use an optical cable for the PS3 but for some odd reason 1080i gives me the messed up cloned screen when I set it.

sadly if SUPERSIX14 is correct i'm screwed because my TV is a lower-end-off-brand plasma (Maxent 42" I bought it a while ago); it does claim to support 1080i though, my DVD player seems to prove that right.

duhh... how could I have thought there were HDMI to component cables? sorry about that, i wasnt thinking.
i guess one of my only choices is jumping onto monoprice and try out an HDMI to DVI cables. thanks every1 for your replies. love to hear any other ideas people have.

Eclipse6211 · 07-30-2007, 07:09 AM

Try the HDMI/DVI cable. Before I got my new Sony tv that's what I was using and it did the job for me. You can find a cable for like $20 on the internet if you look well enough, so that way you won't have to waste your money on a Monster cable.

As far as the remote issue goes, pick yourself up a Harmony remote made by Logitech, they are beyond awesome and work great. I recommend the 880 model. The only thing they don't work on is PS3 due to Bluetooth.

If you never heard of these remotes do a little research and you'll discover how awesome they are.

BStecke · 07-30-2007, 08:25 AM

I may be incorrect, but I'm 99% sure I've seen TV's with one or two component inputs that handle 1080i, and the other one or two only supporting 480i/p, and MAYBE 720p . . . so maybe you have your PS3 plugged into an input that doesn't accept 1080i? That'd be my first guess.

adnank77 · 07-30-2007, 11:04 AM

I'm running 1080i via Component to my Dell 2407 Monitor .. No issues ..

sdlrjr · 07-30-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phee

I just got my PS3 today and I got component cables for my machine because my reciever (that i use as a switch) doesn't have HDMI. The component cables is connected to the multi-out not from the HDMI port of the PS3. Anyhow, my tv supports 1080i but when I try and set my display settings to 1080i it does not let me, I can only get 720P. On my dvd player (which is also run through the receiver) I can get it to 1080i but how come I can't get my PS3 to do it? any suggestions or comments? I'm using the official component cable from Sony and I have firmware 1.90.

Do I have to get a "HDMI to Component" cable to get 1080i?

Please help. thanks.

I have an older brand HDTV. There is 3 component inputs. Only 1 gives me 1080i. The rest is 480p max. Check your TV manual for more information on all connections and thier inputs/output.

cawgijoe · 07-30-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sdlrjr

I have an older brand HDTV. There is 3 component inputs. Only 1 gives me 1080i. The rest is 480p max. Check your TV manual for more information on all connections and thier inputs/output.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm using the Component connection from my PS3 to my Sony KV-34XBR800 (1080i) because the DVI connection on my TV doesn't work with the PS3 even though it's HDCP compliant.

My TV's Component inputs (2) are both capable of 1080i. definitly check your TV's manual to see if the Component input(s) are capable of 1080i.

If you decide to try the DVI connection on your TV, buy a cable from Monoprice.com.....great quality for very little money.

Eclipse6211 · 07-30-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

I may be incorrect, but I'm 99% sure I've seen TV's with one or two component inputs that handle 1080i, and the other one or two only supporting 480i/p, and MAYBE 720p . . . so maybe you have your PS3 plugged into an input that doesn't accept 1080i? That'd be my first guess.

I never heard of that until now, what terrible engineering.

BStecke · 07-30-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipse6211

I never heard of that until now, what terrible engineering.

I seem to remember this being fairly common, especially in CRT-based RPTV's. I don't think I've seen this in any of the newer technologies (LCD, DLP, Plasma).

Pilam69 · 07-30-2007, 04:53 PM

Did you verify your PS3 is set up to send 1080i signals? You have to tell it what your tv can handle. I don't think it will default to 1080i unless you tell it to. I could be horribly off base on this one but I don't think so.

WickyWoo · 07-30-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke
I may be incorrect, but I'm 99% sure I've seen TV's with one or two component inputs that handle 1080i, and the other one or two only supporting 480i/p, and MAYBE 720p . . . so maybe you have your PS3 plugged into an input that doesn't accept 1080i? That'd be my first guess.

This was common with early HDTVs

BStecke · 07-30-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilam69

Did you verify your PS3 is set up to send 1080i signals? You have to tell it what your tv can handle. I don't think it will default to 1080i unless you tell it to. I could be horribly off base on this one but I don't think so.

It SHOULD come up with 1080i if the display it's sending signal to will accept it. Mine defaults to 1080p when doing the automatic setup.

ClaytonMG · 07-30-2007, 06:01 PM

Wait, how are you getting 1080i with your DVD player? Most players use HDCP to keep from sending HD signals over component. Most of them require you to use HDMI or DVI in order to get anything above 480p...

phee · 07-30-2007, 07:18 PM

I have a "JVC HRXVC14B" which is an upconverting DVD VCR combo. My flat panel doesn't have a tuner so I had to get a VCR combo to watch TV but yeah, the DVD player has HDMI-out but I don't use it since none of my machines have HDMI; I run component from the DVD player to my receiver (Yamaha RX-659) and then component from the receiver to the TV.

When I put in a standard DVD into my player and set it to upconvert to 1080i my flat panel response is as it should be, flashes, then displays "Component 1 1080i" in green TV letters in the upper left hand corner.

I haven't a single clue on how or why the HDCP isn't blocking the HD signal. Either way though, if I can get 1080i from one source through the receiver then shouldn't I have the same compatibility with my PS3? it just doesn't make sense to me.

So wait, on a side note; if all HD content is DRM'd with HDCP and can only be transmitted through HDMI or DVI, does that mean that if i chose to use component only (which keeps everything organized through the receiver) i could only play PS3 games through component and when i want to watch blu-ray movies i have to switch to a direct feed from the HDMI port? and seeing how I don't have any machines that have HDMI-in i would have to resolve in getting an HDMI to DVI cable and connecting it directly to the flat panel? i really don't want to have to spend another $100 on a logitech harmony remote.

anyaways, thanks for the replies everyone, every one is a step closer.

cawgijoe · 07-30-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Wait, how are you getting 1080i with your DVD player? Most players use HDCP to keep from sending HD signals over component. Most of them require you to use HDMI or DVI in order to get anything above 480p...

HDCP only works in the digital domain of HDMI and DVI. It does not work via Component.

I believe the rational here is the Component is an analog signal while HDMI/DVI is digital and you can make many multiple copies without degradation. The analog signal degrades.

So 1080i via Component is a reality.

phee · 07-30-2007, 08:18 PM

So I'm in the clear with component cables right? It still doesn't explain why my PS3 won't let me go to 1080i when my DVD player does.....

thanks for the posts every one!

ClaytonMG · 07-30-2007, 08:25 PM

Sorry, the component thing is a Copy Protection thing, not HDCP.

07-30-2007, 04:55 AM	#1
phee Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	PS3 1080i Help I just got my PS3 today and I got component cables for my machine because my reciever (that i use as a switch) doesn't have HDMI. The component cables is connected to the multi-out not from the HDMI port of the PS3. Anyhow, my tv supports 1080i but when I try and set my display settings to 1080i it does not let me, I can only get 720P. On my dvd player (which is also run through the receiver) I can get it to 1080i but how come I can't get my PS3 to do it? any suggestions or comments? I'm using the official component cable from Sony and I have firmware 1.90. Do I have to get a "HDMI to Component" cable to get 1080i? Please help. thanks.

07-30-2007, 07:02 AM	#5
phee Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	my dvd player can put out a 1080i signal to the TV and when it does the tV flashes and in the upper left corner it says "Component 1 1080i". I currently have the PS3 at 720P, when I try and set it to 1080i my TV jumps to 480i looking all messed up with double vision and scan lines etc., weird huh? Anyhow, my TV does not have HDMI but it does have DVI, the only problem with using DVI is my remote. I no longer use the TV remote since everything is comming from one source (my receiver) I just use my receiver remote to turn on the TV; so using an HDMI to DVI cable would mean adding a 3rd remote to my coffee table and an extra step when I want to switch to my PS3. I already do use an optical cable for the PS3 but for some odd reason 1080i gives me the messed up cloned screen when I set it. sadly if SUPERSIX14 is correct i'm screwed because my TV is a lower-end-off-brand plasma (Maxent 42" I bought it a while ago); it does claim to support 1080i though, my DVD player seems to prove that right. duhh... how could I have thought there were HDMI to component cables? sorry about that, i wasnt thinking. i guess one of my only choices is jumping onto monoprice and try out an HDMI to DVI cables. thanks every1 for your replies. love to hear any other ideas people have. Last edited by phee; 07-30-2007 at 07:08 AM.

07-30-2007, 04:53 PM	#13
Pilam69 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:126	This may have been addressed but......... Did you verify your PS3 is set up to send 1080i signals? You have to tell it what your tv can handle. I don't think it will default to 1080i unless you tell it to. I could be horribly off base on this one but I don't think so.

07-30-2007, 07:18 PM	#17
phee Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	I have a "JVC HRXVC14B" which is an upconverting DVD VCR combo. My flat panel doesn't have a tuner so I had to get a VCR combo to watch TV but yeah, the DVD player has HDMI-out but I don't use it since none of my machines have HDMI; I run component from the DVD player to my receiver (Yamaha RX-659) and then component from the receiver to the TV. When I put in a standard DVD into my player and set it to upconvert to 1080i my flat panel response is as it should be, flashes, then displays "Component 1 1080i" in green TV letters in the upper left hand corner. I haven't a single clue on how or why the HDCP isn't blocking the HD signal. Either way though, if I can get 1080i from one source through the receiver then shouldn't I have the same compatibility with my PS3? it just doesn't make sense to me. So wait, on a side note; if all HD content is DRM'd with HDCP and can only be transmitted through HDMI or DVI, does that mean that if i chose to use component only (which keeps everything organized through the receiver) i could only play PS3 games through component and when i want to watch blu-ray movies i have to switch to a direct feed from the HDMI port? and seeing how I don't have any machines that have HDMI-in i would have to resolve in getting an HDMI to DVI cable and connecting it directly to the flat panel? i really don't want to have to spend another $100 on a logitech harmony remote. anyaways, thanks for the replies everyone, every one is a step closer. Last edited by phee; 07-30-2007 at 07:27 PM.

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07-30-2007, 05:36 AM	#2
miked924 Expert Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Queens, NY Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:295 Blu-ray collection:1038 DVD collection:22 iTunes collection:4 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:2	HDMI to component cables don't exist, you should be able to get 1080i over component though

07-30-2007, 05:39 AM	#3
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	It could be your tv, I have read that if its a lower end set it can sometimes only out-put 720p on ps3's and hd-dvd players/blu-ray players. if you have one of those that could be the case

07-30-2007, 07:09 AM	#6
Eclipse6211 Member Member since:Jul 2007	Try the HDMI/DVI cable. Before I got my new Sony tv that's what I was using and it did the job for me. You can find a cable for like $20 on the internet if you look well enough, so that way you won't have to waste your money on a Monster cable. As far as the remote issue goes, pick yourself up a Harmony remote made by Logitech, they are beyond awesome and work great. I recommend the 880 model. The only thing they don't work on is PS3 due to Bluetooth. If you never heard of these remotes do a little research and you'll discover how awesome they are.

07-30-2007, 08:25 AM	#7
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I may be incorrect, but I'm 99% sure I've seen TV's with one or two component inputs that handle 1080i, and the other one or two only supporting 480i/p, and MAYBE 720p . . . so maybe you have your PS3 plugged into an input that doesn't accept 1080i? That'd be my first guess.

07-30-2007, 11:04 AM	#8
adnank77 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	I'm running 1080i via Component to my Dell 2407 Monitor .. No issues ..

07-30-2007, 06:01 PM	#16
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Wait, how are you getting 1080i with your DVD player? Most players use HDCP to keep from sending HD signals over component. Most of them require you to use HDMI or DVI in order to get anything above 480p...

07-30-2007, 08:18 PM	#19
phee Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	So I'm in the clear with component cables right? It still doesn't explain why my PS3 won't let me go to 1080i when my DVD player does..... thanks for the posts every one!

07-30-2007, 08:25 PM	#20
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Sorry, the component thing is a Copy Protection thing, not HDCP.

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