Kingdom of Heaven vs. The Patriot - Blu-ray Forum

Go Blue · 08-02-2007, 10:36 PM

For those who own or have seen both on BD, which has better sound and video? Or, which is the better to own?

titusfortheimperium · 08-02-2007, 10:41 PM

Kingdom of heaven hands down in sound and all around quality

KenThompson · 08-02-2007, 10:42 PM

The Patriot is a much better value. Picture and sound are better than perfect.

B-rad · 08-02-2007, 10:57 PM

I saw both on DVD and both on BR, for me, The Patriot had better pic and sound

The Don · 08-02-2007, 10:58 PM

Kingdom of Heaven is the better movie...

I haven't seen The Patriot on BD, but I own Kingdom of Heaven and give it 3 thumbs up...

dillycheeze · 08-02-2007, 11:05 PM

kingdom of heaven by a mile...although the patriot has a great audio track......kingdom of heaven PQ is excellent...surprising since its mpeg2...on a BD-50 though so that helps...people rave about the PQ of the patriot but to me, its not jaw dropping

dialog_gvf · 08-02-2007, 11:07 PM

What a cruel choice!

I can't pick it, frankly. Both are reference material. You MUST own both.

Along with Apocalypto. The enveloping jungle of that lossless is just creepy. Close your eyes. You're there.

Gary

Smackos · 08-03-2007, 02:18 AM

Both are gorgeous but I'd say Kingdom of Heaven pips The Patriot to the post.. Also I'll 2nd dialog_gvf... Apocalypto's PQ is just staggering. I'd give a shout out to The Prestige as well while I'm at it..

ClaytonMG · 08-03-2007, 02:56 AM

Kingdom of Heaven, hands down. The Patriot looked pretty good, but I don't see why everyone keeps saying it's the greatest thing ever. Like I said, it's good but not excelent. I'm looking forward to actually hearing Kingdom of Heaven in DTS-HDMA someday. I wasn't a huge fan of the theatrical cut, but basically everything was corrected in the director's cut. Huge improvement over the theatrical one!

_xk_ · 08-03-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by schultz

For those who own or have seen both on BD, which has better sound and video? Or, which is the better to own?

You are crazy if you don't own the movie Kingdom of Heaven. That's a required title to have.

Heavens Downfall · 08-03-2007, 03:21 AM

I own both and think kingdom looks better. I like the movie alot more as well. If I were you, id pick which movie you like more

zombieking · 08-03-2007, 03:24 AM

Damn I keep forgetting to pick up Kingdom of Heaven. This weekend it and Shooter will be mine!!

Wendell R. Breland · 08-03-2007, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

You MUST own both.

What he said

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Jack · 08-03-2007, 03:49 AM

Actually the two titles can't be compared. Complete different styles and kamera.
Kingdom of Heaven is fairly dark with mostly one or no light source. The colurs are also a bit muted and tend to be blue. The Patriot on the other hand is bright, colourful and the main light source is the sun. So actually The Patriot is in advantage, cause it looks more solid an real. Also the sharpness and the colour are more natural. But Kingdom of Heaven is a perfect example of mastering and reproducing black levels. So both are top notch in picture and sound and must haves, so get em both.

darkpoet25 · 08-03-2007, 04:00 AM

I have both and they are both equally great films. Both are a little long, but definetly worth it. The PQ and SQ on both are simply incredible. The Patriot is one of my top movies, and I'm excited to get another one of mine, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. It's gonna be worth the $50 I will plunk down for this. Been waiting for it since I got my PS3 last year, and it will have ALL three versions. Can't wait.

thebluemax · 08-03-2007, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by titusfortheimperium

Kingdom of heaven hands down in sound and all around quality

I wonder why they did not include the Overture and Intermision music in the BD edition??

RedSnoddyBLU · 08-03-2007, 04:55 AM

The Patriot's the best looking and sounding catalog title I've purchased. Kingdom of Heaven's a fine disc, and the director's cut is a much better film than the version that went to theaters. I was disappointed when I first saw it, but the film is a whole lot better longer. In term's of PQ and AQ I'd have to give a slight nod to the Patriot. Both outstanding, but the Patriot really impressed me. Also didn't hurt that I watched it on the 4th of July. Best Independence Day movie til FOX puts out Independence Day.

supersix4 · 08-03-2007, 05:04 AM

I think both are 10's neither is better or worse both simply destroy their dvd counterparts, and superbit version of the patriot

aibo · 08-03-2007, 08:50 AM

Love them both.

Go Blue · 08-03-2007, 02:23 PM

How is KOH's audio track? Is it a core DTS track? Since I have a PS3 I won't be able to hear the DTS-MA.

08-02-2007, 10:36 PM	#1
Go Blue Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:160 Trading Score:7	Kingdom of Heaven vs. The Patriot For those who own or have seen both on BD, which has better sound and video? Or, which is the better to own?

08-02-2007, 10:41 PM	#2
titusfortheimperium New Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:michigan	kingdom vs patriot Kingdom of heaven hands down in sound and all around quality

08-03-2007, 04:55 AM	#17
RedSnoddyBLU Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:677 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1	The Patriot's the best looking and sounding catalog title I've purchased. Kingdom of Heaven's a fine disc, and the director's cut is a much better film than the version that went to theaters. I was disappointed when I first saw it, but the film is a whole lot better longer. In term's of PQ and AQ I'd have to give a slight nod to the Patriot. Both outstanding, but the Patriot really impressed me. Also didn't hurt that I watched it on the 4th of July. Best Independence Day movie til FOX puts out Independence Day. Last edited by RedSnoddyBLU; 08-03-2007 at 05:11 AM.

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Smackos Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:149 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:8	Both are gorgeous but I'd say Kingdom of Heaven pips The Patriot to the post.. Also I'll 2nd dialog_gvf... Apocalypto's PQ is just staggering. I'd give a shout out to The Prestige as well while I'm at it..

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ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Kingdom of Heaven, hands down. The Patriot looked pretty good, but I don't see why everyone keeps saying it's the greatest thing ever. Like I said, it's good but not excelent. I'm looking forward to actually hearing Kingdom of Heaven in DTS-HDMA someday. I wasn't a huge fan of the theatrical cut, but basically everything was corrected in the director's cut. Huge improvement over the theatrical one!

08-03-2007, 03:21 AM	#11
Heavens Downfall Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Colorado	I own both and think kingdom looks better. I like the movie alot more as well. If I were you, id pick which movie you like more

08-03-2007, 03:24 AM	#12
zombieking Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:CANADA Blu-ray collection:304 Blu-ray reviews: 18	Damn I keep forgetting to pick up Kingdom of Heaven. This weekend it and Shooter will be mine!!

08-03-2007, 03:49 AM	#14
Jack Active Member Member since:Jun 2007	Actually the two titles can't be compared. Complete different styles and kamera. Kingdom of Heaven is fairly dark with mostly one or no light source. The colurs are also a bit muted and tend to be blue. The Patriot on the other hand is bright, colourful and the main light source is the sun. So actually The Patriot is in advantage, cause it looks more solid an real. Also the sharpness and the colour are more natural. But Kingdom of Heaven is a perfect example of mastering and reproducing black levels. So both are top notch in picture and sound and must haves, so get em both.

08-03-2007, 04:00 AM	#15
darkpoet25 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Indianapolis, IN Home Theater Gallery:45 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:297 Blu-ray reviews: 4	I have both and they are both equally great films. Both are a little long, but definetly worth it. The PQ and SQ on both are simply incredible. The Patriot is one of my top movies, and I'm excited to get another one of mine, Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. It's gonna be worth the $50 I will plunk down for this. Been waiting for it since I got my PS3 last year, and it will have ALL three versions. Can't wait.

08-03-2007, 05:04 AM	#18
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	I think both are 10's neither is better or worse both simply destroy their dvd counterparts, and superbit version of the patriot

08-03-2007, 08:50 AM	#19
aibo Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:2084 Blu-ray reviews:1	Love them both.

08-03-2007, 02:23 PM	#20
Go Blue Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:160 Trading Score:7	How is KOH's audio track? Is it a core DTS track? Since I have a PS3 I won't be able to hear the DTS-MA.

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