Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer 50th Anniversary Edition!!! - Page 17 - Blu-ray Forum

KMR · 12-09-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

Come on guys, I think you all are being too critical! Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer is not a live action, big budget Hollywood movie, it's a 54 year old, animated Christmas TV program, and the Blu-ray doesn't have to look pristine. After Christmas, you're not going to watch it again until next year anyway. I can watch the DVD or even the VHS, and be satisfied with it. It's only 47 minutes! Besides, it's being broadcast on network TV repeatedly all this month, along with the other animated Christmas programs.

There are way too many specious assumptions here to take it seriously.

Treadwell · 12-12-2018, 06:26 AM

My previous copy was a DVD from over ten years ago, so I don't know how this compares to other releases in the interim. However, this looks and sounds great and is a vast improvement with one exception: there are multiple nasty DVNR ghosting artifacts. I didn't notice them until about 37 minutes in, in Bumble's cave. And then, boy, did I notice them.

The Rankin-Bass featurette was nice. Most of the rest of the extras were about a "4D" remake which I have zero interest in.

The biggest omission is the lack of "Fame and Fortune" and the original credits as extras. The GE ads from the original broadcast would've been nice, too.

This was the first time I'd seen the Peppermint Mine scene (apart from a B&W clip on YouTube) reincorporated, so that's cool.

L.P. Hovercraft · 12-12-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Greycomm

He's a lot more than a fan. He's an authority. He's put in many years of research and worked with the original creators of these shows and knows what he's talking about.

Yeah, Rick Goldschmidt literally wrote the book on the history of Rankin/Bass:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0964954273/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1544628156&sr=8-2

mar3o · 12-12-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L.P. Hovercraft

Yeah, Rick Goldschmidt literally wrote the book on the history of Rankin/Bass:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0964954273/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1544628156&sr=8-2

$50-$100+ depending on softcover or hardcover. There's also a gorgeous 15th anniversary edition of this book which runs over $200 now on Amazon 3rd party sellers. Ugh. Shame there isn't a nice book covering these specials that's actually in print.

moviebuff75 · 12-12-2018, 04:59 PM

These Specials need a real restoration...not just a boost of colors.

Clark Kent · 12-12-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

These Specials need a real restoration...not just a boost of colors.

The properties largely sell themselves to a casual audience, so the rights holders have never significantly invested in top-notch restorations. I was surprised at the quality of the new Rankin/Bass documentary, which secured interviews with active Hollywood talent. Good money clearly went into its creation.

It's the same reason why movies like Predator and Die Hard never get the best A/V treatment, because the casual movie fans buying those movies just aren't that demanding.

mar3o · 12-13-2018, 12:37 AM

I watched this over the weekend and thought it looked excellent. Yukon's coat is blue and the extras also seem to prove that it is indeed blue, not green like on a previous release.

The documentary was quite interesting. I would have liked to see more behind-the-scenes stuff instead of talking heads but it was an entertaining feature and I certainly learned a few things I didn't know.

The 4D feature and the accompanying mini-doc are also very enjoyable. I highly recommend checking them out. It's a shame the 4D doc didn't include a 3D version because it's obvious there were tons of fun pop-out moments. Between the two docs and the full 4d feature I think those alone are worth purchasing this edition.

I'm not sure what they did in terms of "improved picture" but the colors were certainly very nice.

Clark Kent · 12-13-2018, 08:14 PM

While no screens for Rudolph have popped up yet, here are screenshots for the new Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town.

http://doblu.com/2018/12/13/santa-cl...lu-ray-review/

moviebuff75 · 12-13-2018, 08:22 PM

It is also missing a word of dialogue on the stereo track. Ives says, "As -everyone feels." On the mono track, the word good is there. This also happened in the same spot on the first restored release in the 1990s. Also a nasty splice when the sleigh is taking off from the Island. The long version has always been missing a few frames. The CBS short version doesn't have a jump cut here.

HR Pufnstuf · 12-14-2018, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

It is also missing a word of dialogue on the stereo track. Ives says, "As -everyone feels." On the mono track, the word good is there. This also happened in the same spot on the first restored release in the 1990s. Also a nasty splice when the sleigh is taking off from the Island. The long version has always been missing a few frames. The CBS short version doesn't have a jump cut here.

I'm not following where the missing word of dialogue is located. What scene is this?

HR Pufnstuf

moviebuff75 · 12-14-2018, 02:28 AM

Right before skinny Santa eats, and before HOLLY JOLLY. The Elves are making toys. The missing frames occur as the sleigh is leaving the Isle of Misfit Toys.

Nailwraps · 12-14-2018, 03:14 AM

Is this on the 50th anniversary release or the Universal release?

EDIT: Nevermind, I understand what you mean now, on the Universal release. Yeah, but like you said, that word has been missing many times before on various formats. Good thing the Mono mix has that word restored.

Incidentally people, this thread is for the 50th anniversary edition that was released by Classic Media/DreamWorks 4 years ago. All comments and things regarding the Universal Deluxe Edition go here:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=309398

hero2099 · 12-14-2018, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mar3o

$50-$100+ depending on softcover or hardcover. There's also a gorgeous 15th anniversary edition of this book which runs over $200 now on Amazon 3rd party sellers. Ugh. Shame there isn't a nice book covering these specials that's actually in print.

http://miserbros.com/shop/books/the-...dition-update/

Found this going through Amazon.

3DEnterpriser · 12-27-2018, 02:02 AM

Recently picked up the Universal Blu. After viewing + directly comparing w/ the 50th disc, I am all but certain the "newly improved picture quality" (as advertised on DE rear cover) is indeed the SAME master/transfer as the 50th, but with a better encode and no/minimal DNR, resulting in a (very) slight uptick in PQ.

Clark Kent · 12-27-2018, 03:35 AM

I more or less agree. Universal seems to have given the specials from the set tighter, more transparent AVC encodes and very minor tweaks otherwise.

Met · 11-15-2021, 03:45 AM

I'm thinking the 2018 Deluxe Edition is the best version to get? It's on a BD-50 disk and has more feature. Any information?

SpazeBlue · 11-15-2021, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Met

I'm thinking the 2018 Deluxe Edition is the best version to get? It's on a BD-50 disk and has more feature. Any information?

Yep. Fixed colors, proper mono soundtrack, much better extras; it's the one to get.

merlinjones · 12-29-2021, 10:37 PM

Is We're a Couple of Misfits synced to the correct animation on the 2018 blu ray set? (The CBS version with the mismatched and redited Fame & Fortune footage always upsets me).

Moviefan2k4 · 12-29-2021, 11:27 PM

I have the version of this that's part of The Original Christmas Specials Collection, and the video and audio seem fine to me. I haven't watched it in some time, but from what I recall everything was intact. Am I missing something, or is my mind simply playing tricks on me?

TrueGent10 · 10-08-2022, 02:48 PM

Is the US Blu-ray region free since the UK Version is hard to get?

12-14-2018, 02:28 AM	#331
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:120 Blu-ray collection:1500 DVD collection:14	Right before skinny Santa eats, and before HOLLY JOLLY. The Elves are making toys. The missing frames occur as the sleigh is leaving the Isle of Misfit Toys. Last edited by moviebuff75; 12-14-2018 at 02:36 AM.

12-14-2018, 03:14 AM	#332
Nailwraps Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:USA 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:884 DVD collection:1828 Digital collection:3	Is this on the 50th anniversary release or the Universal release? EDIT: Nevermind, I understand what you mean now, on the Universal release. Yeah, but like you said, that word has been missing many times before on various formats. Good thing the Mono mix has that word restored. Incidentally people, this thread is for the 50th anniversary edition that was released by Classic Media/DreamWorks 4 years ago. All comments and things regarding the Universal Deluxe Edition go here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=309398 Last edited by Nailwraps; 12-14-2018 at 07:12 AM.

12-12-2018, 06:26 AM	#322
Treadwell Active Member Member since:Jan 2011	My previous copy was a DVD from over ten years ago, so I don't know how this compares to other releases in the interim. However, this looks and sounds great and is a vast improvement with one exception: there are multiple nasty DVNR ghosting artifacts. I didn't notice them until about 37 minutes in, in Bumble's cave. And then, boy, did I notice them. The Rankin-Bass featurette was nice. Most of the rest of the extras were about a "4D" remake which I have zero interest in. The biggest omission is the lack of "Fame and Fortune" and the original credits as extras. The GE ads from the original broadcast would've been nice, too. This was the first time I'd seen the Peppermint Mine scene (apart from a B&W clip on YouTube) reincorporated, so that's cool.

12-12-2018, 04:59 PM	#325
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:120 Blu-ray collection:1500 DVD collection:14	These Specials need a real restoration...not just a boost of colors.

12-13-2018, 12:37 AM	#327
mar3o Banned Member since:Dec 2011 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:2	I watched this over the weekend and thought it looked excellent. Yukon's coat is blue and the extras also seem to prove that it is indeed blue, not green like on a previous release. The documentary was quite interesting. I would have liked to see more behind-the-scenes stuff instead of talking heads but it was an entertaining feature and I certainly learned a few things I didn't know. The 4D feature and the accompanying mini-doc are also very enjoyable. I highly recommend checking them out. It's a shame the 4D doc didn't include a 3D version because it's obvious there were tons of fun pop-out moments. Between the two docs and the full 4d feature I think those alone are worth purchasing this edition. I'm not sure what they did in terms of "improved picture" but the colors were certainly very nice.

12-13-2018, 08:14 PM	#328
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	While no screens for Rudolph have popped up yet, here are screenshots for the new Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town. http://doblu.com/2018/12/13/santa-cl...lu-ray-review/

12-13-2018, 08:22 PM	#329
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:120 Blu-ray collection:1500 DVD collection:14	It is also missing a word of dialogue on the stereo track. Ives says, "As -everyone feels." On the mono track, the word good is there. This also happened in the same spot on the first restored release in the 1990s. Also a nasty splice when the sleigh is taking off from the Island. The long version has always been missing a few frames. The CBS short version doesn't have a jump cut here.

12-27-2018, 02:02 AM	#334
3DEnterpriser Active Member Member since:Apr 2016 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Recently picked up the Universal Blu. After viewing + directly comparing w/ the 50th disc, I am all but certain the "newly improved picture quality" (as advertised on DE rear cover) is indeed the SAME master/transfer as the 50th, but with a better encode and no/minimal DNR, resulting in a (very) slight uptick in PQ.

12-27-2018, 03:35 AM	#335
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	I more or less agree. Universal seems to have given the specials from the set tighter, more transparent AVC encodes and very minor tweaks otherwise.

11-15-2021, 03:45 AM	#336
Met Active Member Member since:Nov 2018	I'm thinking the 2018 Deluxe Edition is the best version to get? It's on a BD-50 disk and has more feature. Any information?

12-29-2021, 10:37 PM	#338
merlinjones Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	Is We're a Couple of Misfits synced to the correct animation on the 2018 blu ray set? (The CBS version with the mismatched and redited Fame & Fortune footage always upsets me).

12-29-2021, 11:27 PM	#339
Moviefan2k4 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Montgomery, TX 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:317 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	I have the version of this that's part of The Original Christmas Specials Collection, and the video and audio seem fine to me. I haven't watched it in some time, but from what I recall everything was intact. Am I missing something, or is my mind simply playing tricks on me?

10-08-2022, 02:48 PM	#340
TrueGent10 Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2017 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:136 DVD collection:33	Is the US Blu-ray region free since the UK Version is hard to get?

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