Click Review!!!!!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

The noise is there in the 35mm print I saw two months ago. It need not always be bad to have grain/noise. Even our eyes get "noisy" when there's not enough light and we're trying to interpret things in the shadows.

I'm sure that the HD-DVD supporters will react the same (or even more so) when Miami Vice gets released. That film has noise all over the place but the story's all good!


fuad

No, HD-DVD supporters will say: "That's the way the director intended it to look."

[phloyd]

Of course it is - it is the look and sound of perfect.

It is interesting that MV has noise too since iirc it was shot digital (as was Collateral).

I wonder if they do this on purpose or if the cameras are not as good as they could be...?

[theknub]

writesimply - our eyes aren't noisy per say. it really amounts to the activation of a different form of receptor in our eyes (rods vs cones) that changes our vision. noisiness in the eye, as you say can be attributed to a number of different factors but it really depends upon activation in the eye itself which is dependant upon the light available.

[Rob Tomlin]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

The noise is there in the 35mm print I saw two months ago. It need not always be bad to have grain/noise. Even our eyes get "noisy" when there's not enough light and we're trying to interpret things in the shadows.

I'm sure that the HD-DVD supporters will react the same (or even more so) when Miami Vice gets released. That film has noise all over the place but the story's all good!


fuad

You think so? I've seen Collateral on HBO-HD and it looked fantastic. I believe Michael Mann used the same cameras for both films, didn't he? It is possible that he set them up differently though.

[Rob Tomlin]

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

Is this guy to be believed? I have not really seen many posts from him anywhere on that forum.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8637001

He seems to think the title looks like crap.

Yes, Cliff knows his stuff. He works in the DVD production side of things if I recall correctly.

Edit: yep, check his profile.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

Yes, Cliff knows his stuff. He works in the DVD production side of things if I recall correctly.

Edit: yep, check his profile.

Cliff said, "Again, I saw direct digital clips from the film on probably the highest end digital display out there and this disc does not look like that (I remember thinking, "Click would be a great looking BD)."

He never said he viewed the Blu-ray disc on that same display. Plus, the other reviewer said that he saw this title at the movies and it looked just like the Blu-ray title. IMO, a Blu-ray disc can not be better than the theatrical version or the source. That just sounds like crazy talk to me.

[Spankey]

I really have to wonder what some of these people are watching and watching on. Click looked amazing. Not filmlike amazing, but otherwise drop dead gorgeous. There are some bizarre politics going on over codecs. We're talking far right vs. far left, with two sides being diametrically opposed. The HD-DVD people pretty much have one codec, VC1, and are looking to monopolize it. They also have less studios giving them alternatives. VC1 is probably the most efficient and if I had a preference for all titles that would be the codec I would choose. Given, my brief experience with Blu-ray now, MPEG to and AVC can look just as good. There is no problem with the format. Prices should come down a bit, but there are plenty of deals to be found online.

[Rob Tomlin]

Originally Posted by sltmag

I really have to wonder what some of these people are watching and watching on. Click looked amazing. Not filmlike amazing, but otherwise drop dead gorgeous. There are some bizarre politics going on over codecs. We're talking far right vs. far left, with two sides being diametrically opposed. The HD-DVD people pretty much have one codec, VC1, and are looking to monopolize it. They also have less studios giving them alternatives. VC1 is probably the most efficient and if I had a preference for all titles that would be the codec I would choose. Given, my brief experience with Blu-ray now, MPEG to and AVC can look just as good. There is no problem with the format. Prices should come down a bit, but there are plenty of deals to be found online.

To me the most important thing that you said in your post is there is no problem with the format.

What many people continually fail to realize is that any deficiencies in PQ from BD compared to HD-DVD has much more to do with the mastering than anything else at this point.

In other words, if some of these Sony titles were put on HD-DVD, there would still be the same complaints regarding PQ. Sony is simply not doing a very good job on mastering some of their titles, and this would show up regardless of the format that it is put on.

The arguments re PQ should be more about studio vs studio than it should be about HD-DVD vs BD, since there is absolutely no question that both formats can, and do, provide a platform for superb looking HD material.

[Spankey]

The arguments re PQ should be more about studio vs studio than it should be about HD-DVD vs BD, since there is absolutely no question that both formats can, and do, provide a platform for superb looking HD material.

Exactly. When Fox and Disney started making DVD's they were non-anamorphic laserdisc transfers. No one said there was a problem with DVD. Click looks great. When watching it, I never noticed any problems with the encoding. No video presentation, whether it be film, DVD, HD-DVD or Blu-ray is ever going to be "perfect". VC1 leaves much more room for error than MPEG2. For that reason alone, it would be the preferred codec. At the same time, MPEG2 can look every bit as good as VC1. If Sony started making HD-DVD's tomorrow, there is nothing that says they will stop using MPEG2. The only real advantage HD-DVD has right now is price. In real market conditions that advantage won't last.

[kemcha]

Just thought I'd a few comments about this movie.

I was skeptical about this movie after seeing the original review posted by BR.com but, while I agree with certain aspects of the review, this movie was actually not bad.

The problem with the movie isn't so much that Adam Sandler is trying to come across as a serious actor because the last half of the movie really showcases that Sandler has the ability to take on more serious 'drama' roles but that the movie suffers miserably from forcing the comedy onto the viewer. The Blu-ray.com review that the comedy of the movie tries too hard and force-feeds the audience really does try to force the laughs onto the viewer and often comes off as being un-funny. I think that if the writing for this script had concentrated mainly on the serious dramatic-side instead of trying to weigh the comedy, side-by-side, with the more serious angle of the movie, it may have succeeded.

While it's not one of Sandler's best movies, Click really does show us a glimpse of Adam Sandler's talent to come off as a serious dramatic actor and he really should take up more challenging roles. Clint Eastwood, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams and even Jim Carey have managed to transition into other genres without compromising their acting talent. While Adam Sandler should continue doing comedy films, he should really start to expand his acting talent so that he's doing more roles that challenge his ability as an actor.

All in all, Click isn't a bad movie and I was especially impressed with the PQ and the AQ. Not a bad transition to BLu-ray and all for the $15 that I paid for the two pack that included 50 First Dates and Click.

To end this post, I thought the movie was a good play on the issue of morality and the choices that we make while accepting responsibility for them and it's a film that I'll keep in my library.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

IMO, a Blu-ray disc can not be better than the theatrical version or the source. That just sounds like crazy talk to me.

Of course a BD can be better than the theatrical version, especially if the theatrical is on 35mm film. The prints can be mis-timed or poorly printed, yet the BD master can be made from the negative or from an inter-positive and timed perfectly.

All 35mm prints aren't the same. For big runs, the studios can split the run to different labs and they'll sometimes even make different prints for New York, Los Angeles and (sometimes) Chicago than they do for the rest of the country so that the major reviewers and Guild members get to see the film as pretty much intended.

And a 35mm print or a BD is almost always better than the source (the camera negative). That's what color timing is all about as well as any other processing. Most films today purposely have a desaturated look. That didn't happen in the camera. That happened in the lab or on the computer when making the digital interpositive.

[kemcha]

I have to say that the the PQ is one of the best that I've seen. Now, why can't all BR releases be like this?

[DarkRuler4Life]

hi everyone, i was wondering if anybody has freezing problems with Click on blu-ray because i bought the Click/50 First Dates bundle and just got around to watching it this year and it freezes completely *at the scene where he lays on the bed in the store* i just dont understand whats up cause its brand new and i have had it over a year and a half now and just put it in yesterday and it did that. is there anyone with this issue and if so is there any replacement program out there? i really dont want to have to buy another copy

[Tony5523]

I've got a problem with mine too. Sometimes it loads and just keeps skipping at the menu and sometimes it just won't turn on at all, tried all three of my players. No scratches or anything

[Zetmoon]

Why was the sole reason to watch this film not mentioned?:

Kate Beckinsale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dobyblue]

This is the only disc I've ever had stop working, won't play on any of 5 players. Weird. Hasn't played in years. No special treatment or odd exposure to liquid or heat, etc. Just one day never loaded.

[MartinScorsesefan]

Ah, the good old days!

[meremortal]

Think I recall this being the first BD-50 release. Still haven't watched my copy after all these years and bought it way before I had an hdtv.

[emailking]

Blast for the past. Loved this movie. I believe it was the first Blu-ray I bought, other than the one that came with my PS3.