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Old 02-17-2009, 03:58 PM   #1
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United Kingdom Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines (Blu-ray) 25/05/09

up for pre-order £14.99

http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/8...s/Product.html
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:11 PM   #2
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lossless audio? and region locked?
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:14 PM   #3
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lossless audio? and region locked?
It's Sony so probaly region free and Dolby True HD
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:24 PM   #4
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It's Sony so probaly region free and Dolby True HD
Hope so. I'd finally buy this movie on Blu if that's the case
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #5
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nice....prolly worth an import for the audio alone! and prolly avc video too!
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:55 AM   #6
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Does anyone know the specs on this one?

If it's lossless sound & a good transfer I'll definitely import for the upgrade on sound.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:10 PM   #7
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Does anyone know the specs on this one?

If it's lossless sound & a good transfer I'll definitely import for the upgrade on sound.
Since it a sony release I will have to go with BD50, AVC and Dolby TrueHD 5.1 since all of their recient releases I have brought to date have been that spec.
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I'm waiting to find out if the extras match up.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:09 AM   #9
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Wow, nice! Lossless audio = definite upgrade for me. However, with the upcoming release of Terminator: Salvation, you have to wonder if we'll get an American re-release from Warner Bros (who own the rights here in the US) as well.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:45 PM   #10
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Wow, nice! Lossless audio = definite upgrade for me. However, with the upcoming release of Terminator: Salvation, you have to wonder if we'll get an American re-release from Warner Bros (who own the rights here in the US) as well.
I think warner will re release it but with a few changes and possibly a few extras.

The Picture Quality I will expect no change (garanteed to use the same encode).

Audio since the first release was Dolby Digital 5.1 so I suppect they will do TrueHD.

I will suppect warner will do a proper Picture In Picture job instead of a seperate encode with it burnt in.

When it comes to actual Warner releases I look to see if someone like disney, paramount, sony or someone else owns the rights.

I was looking at T3 on blu-ray but when I saw sony owned the UK rights and warner owned the US rights I held of the warner release because I know sony will do a much better job then warner will unless they screw it up which will be rare now.

I did the same for beowulf. Warner own the UK rights to beowulf and paramount in the US so I picked up the US edition becasue paramount did a better job.

Rule of thumb for me is if warner own the world wide rights then I am stuck and get the cheapest avilable. If they don't and its done by another studio like sony they will more and likely do a far better job so I will purchess from them Unless they screw it up which has been a bit rare for them.

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Old 02-22-2009, 02:48 AM   #11
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ill pick this up as warner catalog titles are usually terrible pq while sony has done a much better job
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Btw it will be available in 4 days, as soon as i know it's Region Free i'll import it..
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Btw it will be available in 4 days, as soon as i know it's Region Free i'll import it..
It's Sony. It's region-free.
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It's Sony. It's region-free.
Yeah i know... but you know there's always a first time.. or encoding error out there pending on me! That's why i prefer to wait for a confirmation
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Yeah i know... but you know there's always a first time.. or encoding error out there pending on me! That's why i prefer to wait for a confirmation
I will buy it from you if it's not.

That's how sure i am.
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I preordered it from Amazon.uk. It will be region free.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:31 PM   #17
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Yeah i know... but you know there's always a first time.. or encoding error out there pending on me! That's why i prefer to wait for a confirmation
Mine shipped yesterday so I should have it by saturday if I am luckly. Sony have never region coded a catalog title in the UK so it will be region free.
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Sony have never region coded a catalog title in the UK so it will be region free.
Except Sony distributed Asian movie titles (like House of Flying Daggers etc)
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Except Sony distributed Asian movie titles (like House of Flying Daggers etc)
Your point being?

And I'm pretty sure Fox distributed House of Flying Daggers in the UK.
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Here's the BDInfo for it. The back of the case states regions A, B and C - I haven't checked this though.

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Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
01715.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:49:06 32,634,789,888  37,364,241,802  39.88   26.79   Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1831Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)  DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps
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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     TERMINATOR3
Disc Size:      37,364,241,802 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.2

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   01715.MPLS
Size:                   32,634,789,888 bytes
Length:                 1:49:06 (h:m:s)
Total Bitrate:          39.88 Mbps
Description:            

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        26790 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
MPEG-4 AVC Video        2679 kbps           480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         1831 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1831 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Dolby TrueHD Audio              Italian         1800 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 1800 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
DTS Express                     English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         17.219 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         13.745 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         59.332 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         63.145 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         45.993 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Danish          15.018 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Finnish         15.442 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Hindi           17.224 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         19.164 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         45.947 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         52.886 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Italian         52.286 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Norwegian       15.169 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Swedish         15.901 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00262.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:49:06.164     32,634,789,888  39,883          

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2               0:05:49.015     0:05:42.008     27,516 kbps     30,356 kbps     00:08:18.998    28,225 kbps     00:08:14.994    28,021 kbps     00:08:49.862    143,454 bytes   272,402 bytes   00:06:12.205    
3               0:11:31.023     0:08:57.662     27,587 kbps     31,138 kbps     00:12:12.773    28,389 kbps     00:13:24.845    28,106 kbps     00:16:09.343    143,826 bytes   314,805 bytes   00:11:59.218    
4               0:20:28.685     0:05:53.519     27,270 kbps     30,691 kbps     00:25:37.577    28,394 kbps     00:25:45.210    28,169 kbps     00:25:40.205    142,173 bytes   345,079 bytes   00:24:49.905    
5               0:26:22.205     0:06:12.288     27,452 kbps     33,665 kbps     00:28:15.902    28,586 kbps     00:27:06.124    28,253 kbps     00:27:01.077    143,121 bytes   305,221 bytes   00:29:59.339    
6               0:32:34.494     0:05:47.263     27,266 kbps     33,179 kbps     00:36:47.997    28,545 kbps     00:35:55.486    27,896 kbps     00:36:57.089    142,151 bytes   271,205 bytes   00:36:00.199    
7               0:38:21.757     0:05:34.500     27,763 kbps     30,678 kbps     00:39:13.184    28,338 kbps     00:41:28.235    28,118 kbps     00:41:23.189    144,746 bytes   297,655 bytes   00:43:19.930    
8               0:43:56.258     0:07:58.227     27,831 kbps     33,433 kbps     00:47:14.706    29,034 kbps     00:47:10.786    28,475 kbps     00:47:05.781    145,096 bytes   380,740 bytes   00:47:15.541    
9               0:51:54.486     0:05:47.764     27,747 kbps     35,539 kbps     00:57:29.612    28,724 kbps     00:57:25.608    28,195 kbps     00:57:12.137    144,660 bytes   322,998 bytes   00:55:35.248    
10              0:57:42.250     0:08:12.241     27,719 kbps     31,832 kbps     01:00:29.292    28,431 kbps     01:00:25.246    28,067 kbps     01:02:36.794    144,512 bytes   318,122 bytes   01:00:24.787    
11              1:05:54.492     0:05:00.925     27,826 kbps     29,319 kbps     01:09:32.751    28,171 kbps     01:09:28.664    28,056 kbps     01:09:23.868    145,074 bytes   249,664 bytes   01:09:43.554    
12              1:10:55.417     0:07:36.789     27,709 kbps     30,685 kbps     01:16:29.167    28,232 kbps     01:12:10.576    28,089 kbps     01:12:10.534    144,464 bytes   330,974 bytes   01:12:22.546    
13              1:18:32.207     0:06:24.467     27,540 kbps     30,660 kbps     01:22:42.582    28,364 kbps     01:20:24.903    28,073 kbps     01:22:33.573    143,583 bytes   292,392 bytes   01:23:54.487    
14              1:24:56.674     0:06:47.156     27,550 kbps     33,580 kbps     01:26:13.960    28,616 kbps     01:26:09.956    28,208 kbps     01:26:04.951    143,634 bytes   316,157 bytes   01:30:51.028    
15              1:31:43.831     0:07:39.041     27,436 kbps     33,671 kbps     01:36:44.465    28,602 kbps     01:32:01.098    28,239 kbps     01:36:35.456    143,040 bytes   284,602 bytes   01:32:55.903    
16              1:39:22.873     0:09:43.291     22,933 kbps     37,903 kbps     01:49:03.703    29,016 kbps     01:48:59.783    28,126 kbps     01:40:56.925    119,570 bytes   419,174 bytes   01:49:04.663    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00262.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6545.998                26,791                  21,921,868,482  119,232,364     
00262.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            TrueHD          eng (English)           6545.998                2,471                   2,021,982,608   15,723,040      
00262.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6545.998                640                     523,694,080     3,068,520       
00262.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x83            TrueHD          ita (Italian)           6545.998                2,248                   1,839,217,042   14,610,120      
00262.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6545.998                192                     157,108,224     1,022,840       
00262.M2TS      4356 (0x1104)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6545.998                192                     157,108,224     1,022,840       
00262.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6545.998                17                      14,089,695      81,323          
00262.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6545.998                14                      11,247,455      66,500          
00262.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6545.998                19                      15,681,631      90,250          
00262.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             dan (Danish)            6545.998                15                      12,289,077      71,379          
00262.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             fin (Finnish)           6545.998                15                      12,635,483      72,939          
00262.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             hin (Hindi)             6545.998                17                      14,093,550      81,643          
00262.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             swe (Swedish)           6545.998                16                      13,011,306      75,308          
00262.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             nor (Norwegian)         6545.998                15                      12,412,527      72,247          
00262.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6545.998                46                      37,597,005      212,441         
00262.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6545.998                46                      37,634,993      212,623         
00262.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6545.998                59                      48,550,030      274,785         
00262.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6545.998                53                      43,274,964      246,162         
00262.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6545.998                63                      51,669,741      291,467         
00262.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            PGS             ita (Italian)           6545.998                52                      42,783,756      243,216         
00262.M2TS      6656 (0x1A00)   0xA2            DTS Express     eng (English)           6545.998                192                     157,108,224     920,556         
00262.M2TS      6912 (0x1B00)   0x1B            AVC                                     6545.998                2,679                   2,191,934,357   11,991,320
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