Sony shrugs off iPhone, mobile games threat

[Pepelutivruski4]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Joker. Lots of PSP criticism recently but only you telling us we won't admit we really think our PSP's suck.

i've yet to meet anyone completely satisfied with their PSP. even those w/ a homebrew. Even more so now that the PSP is falling behind in technology.

the opposite can be said for most ppl with an iphone and/or DS.

that is what i'm aiming at.

only reason i dont' have a DS yet is because i'm waiting for the new one, and even then i'm afraid i'll be too hooked to it... so we'll see.

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Im sorry but on my mobile carrier the games go up to $9.99 and up last I checked... $4.00 if you agree to pay a monthly fee to play the game...

I have to say I thought it was pretty cool to go to my ps3 rip a cd and then copy the cd album directly to my psp using the ps3 controller charge cable.

I also carry my psp in my shirt pocket at work... The psp 3000 is smaller lighter, and the disc tray simplified...

I dunno I havent played all 423 psp games.. as I am a new psp user, but the ones I have played ive enjoyed..

Syphon Filter Logans Shadow
Star Ocean 1
Phantasy Star Portable
Harvey Birdman
Rtype Command

I actually hated Patapon, of course Ive never liked rytmetric games...

Also you can transfer ps 1 games *from the store* off of your ps3 to your psp I did this with Suikoden and Syphon Filter, and you can transfer the saves.

Portable Jrpgs I consider a blessing.. lets just say when I turn my psp but a few weeks ago it was a religious experience for me.

But that was me...

Though I made 2 mistakes I let the gamestop lady con me into the large bundle with a movie I didn't want, and a small thumbstick, which I have discovered im going to be needed a much bigger one

Here is the list of psp games that I painstankly compiled..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=89696

that's pretty lame that you have to go into your PS3 to rip a CD, either forcing you to eventually delete it, or upgrade the hard drive.

on my smartphone, i transfer over the music already in my computer's library that i was going to rip regardless of wether or not i was going to put it into a mobile device.

also, it'd be cool if the PS3 can let you rip movies and copy them over to your PSP, but alas, mobile phone users don't have to hope for better video support.

that's all i'm saying is that it falls behind modern technology BIG TIME in terms of A/V entertainment, and waaaaaaaaaaay behind in terms of games.
last i checked $20 is still more than $10, and even more so when you think about playing loco rocco 2 for over 14 months.

it's very simple. PSP needs to have WMP support, because god knows sony isn't going to give apple the courtesy. and then the PSP can begin to rival current technology mobile phones. although it's still one more thing to carry, and like everything, possibly drop and lose/have stolen. given a PSP, the game inside and the MSD card inside can't be insured for replacement.
also, i'm still not convinced there are more than 3 PSP games worth $30.
given all the other gaming options $30 can give you otherwise. by which i mean, greatest hits PS3 games,PS3 PSN titles, underrated PS2 games in hte bargain bin, DS games, iphone games, and even $10 puzzle games compatible with free mobile phones.

and i'm not even going to get into the fact that playing a handheld is significantly uncomfortable compared to console gaming because iphone is also guilty of which, but i would never put a PS1 game in a PSP if i can play it in my livingroom, and i'm aware that may be subjective, but i'd be surprised if anyoen is more comfortable with their neck bent looking at a tiny screen in their hand over sitting comfortably in a couch looking at a TV not forced into any given position.... i guess i did get into it. :P

fact is sony's PSP has fallen behind, and i dare anyone to deny that. like anyoen in this forum will tell you, no sense in buying a new DVD when u can get Blu-ray for the same price.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by Pepelutivruski4

i've yet to meet anyone completely satisfied with their PSP. even those w/ a homebrew. Even more so now that the PSP is falling behind in technology.

the opposite can be said for most ppl with an iphone and/or DS.

that is what i'm aiming at.

that's pretty lame that you have to go into your PS3 to rip a CD, either forcing you to eventually delete it, or upgrade the hard drive.

on my smartphone, i transfer over the music already in my computer's library that i was going to rip regardless of wether or not i was going to put it into a mobile device.

also, it'd be cool if the PS3 can let you rip movies and copy them over to your PSP, but alas, mobile phone users don't have to hope for better video support.

that's all i'm saying is that it falls behind modern technology BIG TIME in terms of A/V entertainment, and waaaaaaaaaaay behind in terms of games.
last i checked $20 is less than $10, and even more so when you think about playing loco rocco 2 for over 14 months.

it's very simple. PSP needs to have WMP support, because god knows sony isn't going to give apple the courtesy. and then the PSP can begin to rival current technology mobile phones. although it's still one more thing to carry, and like everything, possibly drop and lose/have stolen. given a PSP, the game inside and the MSD card inside can't be insured for replacement.
also, i'm still not convinced there are more than 3 PSP games worth $30.
given all the other gaming options $30 can give you otherwise. by which i mean, greatest hits PS3 games,PS3 PSN titles, underrated PS2 games in hte bargain bin, DS games, iphone games, and even $10 puzzle games compatible with free mobile phones.

and i'm not even going to get into the fact that playing a handheld is significantly uncomfortable compared to console gaming because iphone is also guilty of which, but i would never put a PS1 game in a PSP if i can play it in my livingroom, and i'm aware that may be subjective, but i'd be surprised if anyoen is more comfortable with their neck bent looking at a tiny screen in their hand over sitting comfortably in a couch looking at a TV not forced into any given position.... i guess i did get into it. :P

fact is sony's PSP has fallen behind, and i dare anyone to deny that. like anyoen in this forum will tell you, no sense in buying a new DVD when u can get Blu-ray for the same price.

Okay first off you have some strange idea, why do you want wmp.. that would mean selling the psp to microsoft 100% and cutting them into profits that would be silly thing to do.

Doubtful that they even would let them do that... and Europe would probably sue Sony, for anti competative for now allowing other media players to be installed.

I think you don't understand, you can move them from a computer.. but I already have ripped them onto my ps3 for convience as my computer has no sound card, so theres no reason to have them on the computer library because it can not make physical noise at all, as the sound card is fried.

It would be a full waste of my time to put them on the computer.

Further I prefer ATRAC over mp3 as a personal preference throught not required of me.

Im further sorry mostly I raid sams and buy them for $9.99 of course...

Im not sure how you can blame the dvd ripping thing on the psp... but in total you have told me everything I needed to know.. I have no idea what you want, but it sounds like you will never be happy with anything or any device ever made... I hope you can find happiness one day until then enjoy the barb-o-que..



I hope you find your BBQ one day...

[Pepelutivruski4]

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Okay first off you have some strange idea, why do you want wmp.. that would mean selling the psp to microsoft 100% and cutting them into profits that would be silly thing to do.

Doubtful that they even would let them do that... and Europe would probably sue Sony, for anti competative for now allowing other media players to be installed.

I think you don't understand, you can move them from a computer.. but I already have ripped them onto my ps3 for convience as my computer has no sound card, so theres no reason to have them on the computer library because it can not make physical noise at all, as the sound card is fried.

It would be a full waste of my time to put them on the computer.

Further I prefer ATRAC over mp3 as a personal preference throught not required of me.

Im further sorry mostly I raid sams and buy them for $9.99 of course...

Im not sure how you can blame the dvd ripping thing on the psp... but in total you have told me everything I needed to know.. I have no idea what you want, but it sounds like you will never be happy with anything or any device ever made... I hope you can find happiness one day until then enjoy the barb-o-que..



I hope you find your BBQ one day...

i dont' want MS to haev anything like that, but the fact that most ppl and by most i mean 90something% of computer users are using either WMP or itunes wether or not they listen to music. you are getting into a whole 'nother thing.

if a sony ericsson phone can sync with WMP, there is nothing too intricate about it. given which, samsung, LG, and any other popular mobile phoen manfacturer avaiable in NA can sync with WMP or itunes with nothing more than the USB data cable.

PSP can support other software, but why would you want to lack support for the 2 most universally used media players?

now, the reason why Sony will never work hand in hand with apple/itunes i assume has to do with the Vaio. so long as the Vaio is a PC we will never see any itunes support for anything sony. that's why i keep saying WMP.

and you do know that a sound card, a GOOD sound card with 5.1 and a good amount of bells and whistles can cost you as least as $5... and i'm going to assume that your PC already has a much bigger hard drive than what your PS3 came with. given which, to make the PS3 a formidable central music server will cost quite a bit more than $5.

and i agree with yuo on ATRAC over mp3, i despise mp3.
but what good is ATRAC, PS3 and PSP...and.... that's it.
WMA can be played by anything(certain profiles even by itunes), even a PS3... but not a PSP. causing most ppl to re-rip all their music anyway, that's really discouraging.


that's absurd to think that i would never be satisfied w/ anything. i'm satisfied w/ my mobile phone. it'd be great if i could play patapon on it, but the lack of a few games does not outweigh all the other uses i get out of it that a PSP can't even touch.
best part about it, is if i lose my mobile phone i just call in and get a new one of the same model for $20 including the highly universal SD card in it.

once again, the point is that the PSP is far behind mobile phones, and that is true. undeniably true. the PSP hardly even supports itself. let alone universal media. for what it's worth, i'm glad you get your games for $9.99, i bet you wouldn't pay $30 for them though.

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by Pepelutivruski4

only reason i dont' have a DS yet is because i'm waiting for the new one, and even then i'm afraid i'll be too hooked to it... so we'll see.

Does the DSi support WMV? Audio other than AAC? Are the screens any good for consuming video that it does play? I get the impression you don't want to enjoy the PSP's capabilities and games, that you've built up the DSi to be this wonderful machine.. that still does less than the PSP. Am I the only one not seeing consistency to your argument here?

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Does the DSi support WMV? Audio other than AAC? Are the screens any good for consuming video that it does play? I get the impression you don't want to enjoy the PSP's capabilities and games, that you've built up the DSi to be this wonderful machine.. that still does less than the PSP. Am I the only one not seeing consistency to your argument here?

I agree with you Shin-Ra, I fear I fleshed that out from continual discussion..

[Pepelutivruski4]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Does the DSi support WMV? Audio other than AAC? Are the screens any good for consuming video that it does play? I get the impression you don't want to enjoy the PSP's capabilities and games, that you've built up the DSi to be this wonderful machine.. that still does less than the PSP. Am I the only one not seeing consistency to your argument here?

the only consistency you should see is that i keep saying that the PSP is far behind its current "competitors"

i don't even know that much about the DSi to be absolutely honest with you other than it plays aac(which i'd rather it be wma but it's still better than mp3), has 2 cameras and there are about 15 games i would love to be able to afford at the same time i would get a DS. will i get one? i'm not even sure yet. is it a better value than a PSP to me? subjectively it is. that's it. when the time comes for me to go to a store and pick up a DSi i will have done as much research and speculation as i haev done for hte PSP i thought i wanted.l. wether or not it turns out to be what i expect it to be, or worth its value to me is irrelevant to this thread.

my point still is that the PSP by no means up to speed with current technology, and mobile phones are more so and thus making them a better asset to ones' arsenal of gadgets.

[becomingwater]

the article is pointless! It is an iPHONE..lol Not an iGame System..lol

Maybe if Apple and Sony worked together then maybe they should worry, but the iphone is not really that powerful. I think it has a 400Mhz processor and the PSP has a 733Mhz processor plus or Minus..lol I do have a flight sim called X-Plane that runs really smooth on the iPhone. Wish they would put that on the PSP.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by becomingwater

the article is pointless! It is an iPHONE..lol Not an iGame System..lol

Maybe if Apple and Sony worked together then maybe they should worry, but the iphone is not really that powerful. I think it has a 400Mhz processor and the PSP has a 733Mhz processor plus or Minus..lol I do have a flight sim called X-Plane that runs really smooth on the iPhone. Wish they would put that on the PSP.

the psp has a 333mhz cpu and the iphone has said to be as powerful as the original xbox. but clock speed alone means nothing

edit: iphone has a 620mhz arm cpu
edit2: Although powered by an ARM class CPU capable of running at upwards of 667MHz, the iPhone as of firmware v1.1.2 runs at 412MHz with its 128MB of memory clocked at 103MHz for power consumption and operating temperature reasons.

[aygie]

Originally Posted by xtop

the psp has a 333mhz cpu and the iphone has said to be as powerful as the original xbox. but clock speed alone means nothing

edit: iphone has a 620mhz arm cpu
edit2: Although powered by an ARM class CPU capable of running at upwards of 667MHz, the iPhone as of firmware v1.1.2 runs at 412MHz with its 128MB of memory clocked at 103MHz for power consumption and operating temperature reasons.

I hate playing games on my iPhone. No controls, battery last about 20 mins!
Love my PSP though, games are so much more in depth (i know that the iPhone is still at the "kiddie" stage) movies are nicer to watch (i use it every night to watch movies before i crash out) the iPhone is a great phone i just wish it would stay a phone lol

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by Pepelutivruski4

the only consistency you should see is that i keep saying that the PSP is far behind its current "competitors"

i don't even know that much about the DSi to be absolutely honest with you other than it plays aac(which i'd rather it be wma but it's still better than mp3), has 2 cameras and there are about 15 games i would love to be able to afford at the same time i would get a DS. will i get one? i'm not even sure yet. is it a better value than a PSP to me? subjectively it is. that's it. when the time comes for me to go to a store and pick up a DSi i will have done as much research and speculation as i haev done for hte PSP i thought i wanted.l. wether or not it turns out to be what i expect it to be, or worth its value to me is irrelevant to this thread.

my point still is that the PSP by no means up to speed with current technology, and mobile phones are more so and thus making them a better asset to ones' arsenal of gadgets.

Oh forgot the psp does support wma, you have to activate the license but it does support it... I must admit never been a big fan of wma or mp3, been more of a ATRAC and AAC guy...

And I guess I should go more into explaination of my computer...

My other computer that had my entire music collection the mother board fried.. a friend gave me his tower the tower with no sound card but does have one... from what I can tell the sound card either is broken or fried not really sure...

When I had my other computer I had co operatively kept all my music both on my computer and my ps3.. my hard drive(s) are fine but the new computer does not support the hard drives in any fraction, and thus I installed the windows 7 beta to have a somewhat of a computer...

It goes largly unused.

As to me the purpose in having the computer is not a entertainment hub I really do not care to try to rip my entire cd collection because other people think it should be on my pc.. I see that as a waste of a time on a computer ill probably wipe again, now I could just copy everything to the external hard drive from the ps3 to the Pc but I simply dont care to have it on the pc..

If anything I keep a computer around to play old pc games that there is no console equivalent of... further more I have one more pc, but its sole purpose in life is to play the old age of empire games, and starwars battlegrounds...

Sadly the only reason I bothered installing windows 7 originally was actually to create maps in Half Life 2 which is a hobby of mine but sadly it cant even play half life 2... Which is futher why it rarly is allowed to touch the internet... *additional problems with my router which I wont go into here*

Possible next year ill probably have a little more money I might buy a new pc specically for bryce, video editing, and half life 2 map making....

Well have a nice day.

[dereksworl]

iPhone is not a gaming console, it's phone......period. Thats why people laugh when I tell them you can use the PSP as a phone via Skype, Because its a handheld gaming console not a phone. that works vice versa

[xtop]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

iPhone is not a gaming console, it's phone......period. Thats why people laugh when I tell them you can use the PSP as a phone via Skype, Because its a handheld gaming console not a phone. that works vice versa

it may not be a game console, but sony still needs to keep an eye on apple

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by xtop

it may not be a game console, but sony still needs to keep an eye on apple

agreed. just one eye tho Lol

[xtop]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

agreed. just one eye tho Lol

haha i'll give you that

[tilapiah6]

All I can say is that I love the games on my Touch. I can't see it as being a real threat to the sales of the PSP, but I, for one, sold my PSP because as far as playing games quickly on the go, the Touch does a much finer job. That's not to say the PSP doesn't destroy the Touch game-wise, but it's just more practical and dare I say more innovative to play them on the Touch. Here's a few of my favorites (all are very innovative and extremely fun):

Sway

X-Plane Extreme

Zen Bound

Rolando


I'm sure you can tell I'm a huge supporter of the iPod Touch!

I will say though, that for extended trips or what have you, the PSP beats the Touch hands down in every way.

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

All I can say is that I love the games on my Touch. I can't see it as being a real threat to the sales of the PSP, but I, for one, sold my PSP because as far as playing games quickly on the go, the Touch does a much finer job. That's not to say the PSP doesn't destroy the Touch game-wise, but it's just more practical and dare I say more innovative to play them on the Touch. Here's a few of my favorites (all are very innovative and extremely fun):

Sway

X-Plane Extreme

Zen Bound

Rolando


I'm sure you can tell I'm a huge supporter of the iPod Touch!

Well you certaintly are allowed to hold your own opinion.. please ignore the lynching mob surrounding you and think only of happy thoughts.

I dunno Ive always really hated touch screen technology in general.. but thats a personal thing I dislike the idea of grimy fingerprints deflowring a screen...

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by dk3dknight

Well you certaintly are allowed to hold your own opinion.. please ignore the lynching mob surrounding you and think only of happy thoughts.

I dunno Ive always really hated touch screen technology in general.. but thats a personal thing I dislike the idea of grimy fingerprints deflowring a screen...

Originally I felt the same way until I had the chance to mess with one for a while, and I was sold. A few wipes with a shirt sleeve will take off the fingerprints, and won't scratch the screen because it's glass.

Yeah, here on a Sony lovers' site, I'm definitely the minority. Before you lynch me, know that I love my PS3!

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Before you lynch me, know that I love my PS3!

Do you?! You better have a pair of these!

[dk3dknight]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Originally I felt the same way until I had the chance to mess with one for a while, and I was sold. A few wipes with a shirt sleeve will take off the fingerprints, and won't scratch the screen because it's glass.

Yeah, here on a Sony lovers' site, I'm definitely the minority. Before you lynch me, know that I love my PS3!

Really im driven nuts by touch screens in general which is why I hate the technology so much... but thats me..

But thats one of the wonder things about human beings.. we are all different..

Everyone is welcome to a free opinion, except Pepelutivruski4

Im only kidding Pepelutivruski4

[xtop]

you and you hatred for touchscreens. so weird