Switching to format neutral... - Blu-ray Forum

ben7ben3 · 08-20-2007, 06:29 PM

as much as I have been a blu supporter, this move by paramount/dreamworks really is huge..even if blu does eventually win the war (which I think it will, once they start realizing its capabilities fully), it won't be for a long time. I can not wait around any longer hoping some movies will go blu. Sure, V for Vendetta is, but a lot of great movies I really want won't for a LONG time. I need the Bourne movies, and a lot of others, especially if Over the Hedge and other Dreamworks movies go to HD. Format neutral is the way to go, as there won't be a winner for a few years at the very least. Time to start buying an Hd player and some HDDVDs (no longer HD Duds)

cajmoyper · 08-20-2007, 06:30 PM

Welcome to the fence.

EricJ · 08-20-2007, 06:33 PM

Enjoy your next, what, six months of it?

Amon37 · 08-20-2007, 06:34 PM

There still aren't enough exclusive titles I'm interested in.

shadowmoon · 08-20-2007, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben7ben3

as much as I have been a blu supporter, this move by paramount/dreamworks really is huge..even if blu does eventually win the war (which I think it will, once they start realizing its capabilities fully), it won't be for a long time. I can not wait around any longer hoping some movies will go blu. Sure, V for Vendetta is, but a lot of great movies I really want won't for a LONG time. I need the Bourne movies, and a lot of others, especially if Over the Hedge and other Dreamworks movies go to HD. Format neutral is the way to go, as there won't be a winner for a few years at the very least. Time to start buying an Hd player and some HDDVDs (no longer HD Duds)

Hate to say this but Im there with ya. But Im gonna wait till the end of the year to see if BDA is going to make a comeback before I break down and buy a Toshiba. If not, oh well, format neutral here I go.

statikcat · 08-20-2007, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben7ben3

as much as I have been a blu supporter, this move by paramount/dreamworks really is huge..even if blu does eventually win the war (which I think it will, once they start realizing its capabilities fully), it won't be for a long time. I can not wait around any longer hoping some movies will go blu. Sure, V for Vendetta is, but a lot of great movies I really want won't for a LONG time. I need the Bourne movies, and a lot of others, especially if Over the Hedge and other Dreamworks movies go to HD. Format neutral is the way to go, as there won't be a winner for a few years at the very least. Time to start buying an Hd player and some HDDVDs (no longer HD Duds)

If you truly believe that HD DVD will loose then you realize your investment will be worthless when this happens? I dont see how someone can spend hundreds maybe thousands of dollars on HD DVD when they also think it is going to loose.

Paramount bought HD DVD some time is all. End the end I think cross platform sales will determine where the studios go.

CptGreedle · 08-20-2007, 06:37 PM

I wouldn't care that much except for 3 things...
1) I HATE Miscro$oft with a passion. Ergo, I hate the format they support.

2) I can not afford another player to hook into my system.

3) I have no ROOM for another player within my system. I only have 2 HDMI inputs on my AV receiver and that is being used by cable and my PS3. Unless I could find an inexpensive HDMI switch, I am not going to re-arrange everything just to add another player.

CptGreedle · 08-20-2007, 06:38 PM

Oh, and 4.... Toshiba sucks... really bad quality IMO.

Amel · 08-20-2007, 06:38 PM

won't happen for at least another year

I'm a loyal blu supporter and hopefully sony can act quick

cawgijoe · 08-20-2007, 06:43 PM

I won't be buying into HD-DVD. it was hard enough to convince the family to get the PS3. I don't have money to throw away like that. I will continue to support Blu-Ray and standard DVD.

pscoop · 08-20-2007, 06:47 PM

Sony needs to do some damage control. Quickly.

movies3 · 08-20-2007, 06:56 PM

i still have faith in bluray...besides we have Sony, Disney, FOX im happy as we speak. yes the paramount news sucks but not enough for me to waste my money to switch to HD dvd anytime soon. But good luck with your choices

Gremal · 08-20-2007, 07:03 PM

Not going to happen. Even if I had space on my shelf, I wouldn't get an HD DVD player. If Paramount doesn't want to release Blu-rays, they won't get any of my $$s. Simple as that. I anticipate plenty of BD titles (with or without Paramount on board) coming out that I'll want to add to my collection.

dobyblue · 08-20-2007, 07:07 PM

Thanks junior member, but I have a different idea of how this thing will play out.

This is a temporary setback and in the big picture HD DVD is still doomed.

Smallville206 · 08-20-2007, 07:08 PM

The point is, why is stuff like this happening. Whether it's buying time or not, the fact is HD-DVD has something to be positive and the war prolongs hurting the format in general. The studios behind Blu ray could have ended this war with a full onslaught of great titles, instead they put everything on the back burner and didn't go for the nail in the coffin.
Poor strategy on the Blu side is depressing me. Blu ray will likely win out in the end, but that still doesn't take away the sting of news such as this. End this war now.

E-Dogg · 08-20-2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben7ben3

as much as I have been a blu supporter, this move by paramount/dreamworks really is huge..even if blu does eventually win the war (which I think it will, once they start realizing its capabilities fully), it won't be for a long time. I can not wait around any longer hoping some movies will go blu. Sure, V for Vendetta is, but a lot of great movies I really want won't for a LONG time. I need the Bourne movies, and a lot of others, especially if Over the Hedge and other Dreamworks movies go to HD. Format neutral is the way to go, as there won't be a winner for a few years at the very least. Time to start buying an Hd player and some HDDVDs (no longer HD Duds)

I couldn't disagree with your rationality any more actually. Blu til the end period.

Matt X · 08-20-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by movies3

i still have faith in bluray...besides we have Sony, Disney, FOX im happy as we speak. yes the paramount news sucks but not enough for me to waste my money to switch to HD dvd anytime soon. But good luck with your choices

That's where I'm at, too - There's enough sweet titles out there to keep me happy for the time being. I can hang w/out the Bourne movies, etc. for a while.
PS - didn't Spielberg direct some or all of the Indy Jones movies? if at least I can get a high quality transfer on Indy 1 during this war, I could def. hold out longer.......
PPS - I've seen the inside of format wars before (CC's "Divx", anyone?). Underhanded tactics are par for the course: CC tried using their sales guys to win the war w/ DVD by paying triple commissions on Divx players. Didn't work, obviously, and was a desparate move at best. same w/ this recent news. Besides, who's to say Sony doesn't take a page from M$ and "buy" Universal Neutrality?

kman · 08-20-2007, 07:13 PM

As we speak I am looking at hd-dvd players right now. I have an 360 so it isn't very clostly to support it but man this is disapointing. I just really dont want to have to have my 360 on while watching movies. That thing sounds like an airplane taking off.

elwaylite · 08-20-2007, 07:17 PM

I had almost decided to get a HDDVD player around Christmas because the A2's will be cheap and it'd allow me the ability to catch the few HDDVD only titles that come out every month.

With the new announcement, that a Studio is going to exclusively support the current sales loser, Im now on the "fence" about dumping it all together and leaving this format war behind me. PS3 upconversion is just fine.

dialog_gvf · 08-20-2007, 07:19 PM

Hence, the damage to HDM is much more severe than to Blu-ray.

08-20-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
ben7ben3 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Illinois Blu-ray reviews:65	Switching to format neutral... as much as I have been a blu supporter, this move by paramount/dreamworks really is huge..even if blu does eventually win the war (which I think it will, once they start realizing its capabilities fully), it won't be for a long time. I can not wait around any longer hoping some movies will go blu. Sure, V for Vendetta is, but a lot of great movies I really want won't for a LONG time. I need the Bourne movies, and a lot of others, especially if Over the Hedge and other Dreamworks movies go to HD. Format neutral is the way to go, as there won't be a winner for a few years at the very least. Time to start buying an Hd player and some HDDVDs (no longer HD Duds)

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08-20-2007, 06:30 PM	#2
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	Welcome to the fence.

08-20-2007, 06:33 PM	#3
EricJ Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:The Paradise of New England Blu-ray collection:6	Enjoy your next, what, six months of it?

08-20-2007, 06:34 PM	#4
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	There still aren't enough exclusive titles I'm interested in.

08-20-2007, 06:37 PM	#7
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	I wouldn't care that much except for 3 things... 1) I HATE Miscro$oft with a passion. Ergo, I hate the format they support. 2) I can not afford another player to hook into my system. 3) I have no ROOM for another player within my system. I only have 2 HDMI inputs on my AV receiver and that is being used by cable and my PS3. Unless I could find an inexpensive HDMI switch, I am not going to re-arrange everything just to add another player.

08-20-2007, 06:38 PM	#8
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Oh, and 4.... Toshiba sucks... really bad quality IMO.

08-20-2007, 06:38 PM	#9
Amel Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Clearwater FL Blu-ray collection:91 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	won't happen for at least another year I'm a loyal blu supporter and hopefully sony can act quick

08-20-2007, 06:43 PM	#10
cawgijoe Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:1	I won't be buying into HD-DVD. it was hard enough to convince the family to get the PS3. I don't have money to throw away like that. I will continue to support Blu-Ray and standard DVD.

08-20-2007, 06:47 PM	#11
pscoop Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Tuksin Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:1	Sony needs to do some damage control. Quickly.

08-20-2007, 06:56 PM	#12
movies3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Location:KY Blu-ray collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:56	i still have faith in bluray...besides we have Sony, Disney, FOX im happy as we speak. yes the paramount news sucks but not enough for me to waste my money to switch to HD dvd anytime soon. But good luck with your choices

08-20-2007, 07:03 PM	#13
Gremal Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Daddyland Home Theater Gallery:49 Blu-ray collection:184	Not going to happen. Even if I had space on my shelf, I wouldn't get an HD DVD player. If Paramount doesn't want to release Blu-rays, they won't get any of my $$s. Simple as that. I anticipate plenty of BD titles (with or without Paramount on board) coming out that I'll want to add to my collection.

08-20-2007, 07:07 PM	#14
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Thanks junior member, but I have a different idea of how this thing will play out. This is a temporary setback and in the big picture HD DVD is still doomed.

08-20-2007, 07:08 PM	#15
Smallville206 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Seattle, Washington	The point is, why is stuff like this happening. Whether it's buying time or not, the fact is HD-DVD has something to be positive and the war prolongs hurting the format in general. The studios behind Blu ray could have ended this war with a full onslaught of great titles, instead they put everything on the back burner and didn't go for the nail in the coffin. Poor strategy on the Blu side is depressing me. Blu ray will likely win out in the end, but that still doesn't take away the sting of news such as this. End this war now.

08-20-2007, 07:13 PM	#18
kman Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Denver, Co Home Theater Gallery:13 Blu-ray collection:370	As we speak I am looking at hd-dvd players right now. I have an 360 so it isn't very clostly to support it but man this is disapointing. I just really dont want to have to have my 360 on while watching movies. That thing sounds like an airplane taking off.

08-20-2007, 07:17 PM	#19
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	I had almost decided to get a HDDVD player around Christmas because the A2's will be cheap and it'd allow me the ability to catch the few HDDVD only titles that come out every month. With the new announcement, that a Studio is going to exclusively support the current sales loser, Im now on the "fence" about dumping it all together and leaving this format war behind me. PS3 upconversion is just fine.

08-20-2007, 07:19 PM	#20
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	Hence, the damage to HDM is much more severe than to Blu-ray.

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