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Old 01-09-2020, 03:14 AM   #1
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I know heavy filtering/noise reduction and edge enhancement are appauled by both myself and the wider BD.com community, but what are your thoughts on light DNR such as Disney's live action 4K discs where the DNR is minimal but still there
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Light DNR I still hate, if we're talking smoothed faces and whatnot. It bothered me a lot in Winter Soldier and most people would say that was minor DNR. Now, grain management to some degree with no traditional "DNR" smoothness as a result... I'm okay with that. I think most restorations today get management of some sort.

EE I am more lenient on. Mild EE with some edge halos and stuff bothered me a bit, but not a lot, and I can enjoy a master with EE. Severe EE though, like say on the Scream BDs, looks godawful. A lot of video games now have sharpening because of blur filters used to hide aliasing, so it's blurred and then sharpened, and it looks like total shite.
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You included EE in the title but only concede that light DNR alone occurs in these examples you are wanting feedback on. So small critique that smacks of a bait and switch...

All discs have grain management is the long speculation. It's just what level of management you consider DNR at that point. Some people are overly (or in their mind justifiably) sensitive to a certain level you seem to call light DNR, and it being too far automatically. I take it case by case. I concede it's not 'ideal' when it goes as far as Iron Man because of the direct comparison to the Paramount blu. However, I no less thought of the PQ as pleasing and besting the SDR transfer because of this. Detail and clarity of the picture was pristine on the 4K UHD. So nothing like what evokes from use of the abbreviation "DNR"
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Don't think my eyes are good enough to spot 'light dnr' in motion.
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I've gone full apologist for most of the DNR'ed Disnee MCU discs although I concede that I was a bit too lenient on Iran Man 1. Something else like Gump wasn't horribly offensive to my eyes. I still think Batman Begins is a ****ing atrocity however. I watched the UHD of 3:10 to Yuma the other day and didn't come away hating it though (more on that in the relevant thread later).

DNR I can take on a case by case basis then, but EE still pisses me off. The kinds of ultra-thicc halos that Velvet mentions are indeed rare nowadays but I'm starting to see very high frequency sharpening occurring more and more on UHD discs and I'm not a fan. Endgame, IT chapter two, Anna, any areas in these movies that have hard contrasts between light and dark look a fraction too 'edgy' for my taste.
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In theory, I don't mind DNR if it's tastefully done or there's a good reason for it such as in film restoration when you're dealing with multiple sources or problematic prints.

But what are we considering light DNR? There are some discs that use DNR to just reduce grain (X-Men: First Class, Hot Fuzz), but I still prefer the look of the Blu-rays and something like that just seems rather pointless.
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I still think Batman Begins is a ****ing atrocity however.
Yeah that still upsets me. There's no excuse for it.
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DNR I can take on a case by case basis then, but EE still pisses me off.
Yeah, I think this describes me, too.
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The only filtering I can tolerate is something like Inception...

Disneys still look like ****ing ass. Hate it with passion. The reason I didn't buy any of MCU 4Ks. I'm not paying for that shit.
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Inception is, IMO, by far the best looking one out of the Nolan catalogue UHDs for how generally un-****ed it seems regarding the grain management. It's had a much lighter touch than the Batmans or Prestige or Interstellar.
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