Why The Phantom Menace is the best Star Wars film

[HenriDeadMort]

The purpose of this thread is for me to convince you the that TPM is indeed the greatest one

The Phantom Menace is the greatest Star Wars film. (and if not it's the 2nd best, can't see it lower)
Why?
Because first of all it's a much more subtle remake of EP4 than EP7 did
(mainly because there a slight differences and also different point of view)
We are introduced to clumsy humor characters
Jar Jar/R2D2 and (mostly) C3P0
They are stuck , and must fly very well to get enough
Stuck on Tatooine , Podrace/ Stuck in space, Asteroids
"Old" jedi tells hero how the force works and how to use it
Qui Gon to Anakin/Obi Wan to Luke
Some Important people are held captive
Padme (technically no, but she is stuck on Tatooine then on Naboo so i stand my point)/Leia
A young "hero" with 0 experience in flying spaceships Shoots some weak point in a big space object, with it battle is won
Anakin/Luke
"Old" Jedi is killled
Qui Gon/Obi Wan
Bad guy is killed, but not his faction
Darth Maul/Tarkin
i could give more stuff but i think that's enough to get my point.
Midichlorians aren't a problem.
Qui Gon says everything is made of Midichlorians, and rather some people have more Midichlorians than others.
if you played Kotor 2, the player "loses" the force, because they are in exile, AKA losing midichlorians. Because even if you have a somewhat high count of midichlorians, if you dont believe in the force you cant use it.
This is why Yoda is skeptical (And Windu) to train anakin, he's already 9. a high age where he could have lost most of his Midichlorians.
It's a bit like genes, but look at it like Health or fitness (especially weight).
Some people gain/lose weight more easily than others.
but no matter how easily you gain weight, with a good diet, regular physical exercise you will lose it.
Jar Jar.
Apart from the accent which i can understand might offend some, get over it, Jar Jar is supposed to be irritating, he annoys Qui Gon throughout the entire movie, it's the reason he exists. C3P0 in the original is just as dumb if not more than him. And i agree, it's (the movie) orientated towards younger people, but as with the C3P0 example, and also that Lucas said Jar Jar is inspired by Goofy. you can't blame the character so much.
Anakin.
Yes, Jake Lloyd is not a great actor, but the whole dialogue he has and attitude is really realistic.
he's (Anakin) hated by many, probably because he is a slave, isn't very social (seen by how he spent most of his time building C3P0). And as someone who is Really not social, i said much dumber stuff than Anakin at the age of 9. And although the following is not a great argument, remember he was 9!!!.
He ain't not Robert deNiro, of course it's not the greatest performance of all time. What i'm trying to say (in correlation with the realistic part) is that there is a damn reason Lucas chose Lloyd.
Dialogue

I seriously don't understand this one.
Really.
Apart from the above 2 characters, if you want me to make any arguments, you'll have to give me specific examples.
i will say however that in the Original Trilogy (apart from maybe Ep5) the dialogue isn't the greatest thing either. so i don't understand this Specific complaint people have.
I can't really think of any other major complaints for this movie.
Thanks for reading, i hope more people have interesting opinions to discuss (about other movies)

[BladeRunner2007]

You're wrong because of this

[wonderer99]

Nope cant be bothered. I state my unpopular opinions in that thread. I have no need to defend them extensively. My opinion is all I really care about anyway.

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

You're wrong because of this

2 can play at that game.

Harrison Ford is the Worst part of Blade Runner

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by HenriDeadMort

2 can play at that game.

Harrison Ford is the Worst part of Blade Runner

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

edit

Don't worry, Blade Runner is in my top 10 movies (below The Phantom Menace though).
Even Ray McCoy is better as a protagonist

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Is that supposed to be a low budget Tears in Rain?

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by HenriDeadMort

Is that supposed to be a low budget Tears in Rain?

It means as heartbreaking as your statement about Harrison Ford may be, I have to agree.

[mwynn]

Not another Star Wars thread.

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Not another Star Wars thread.

Apart from the Rise of Skywalker thread.
what and when was the last one you saw?

[UniSol GR77]

1- A new hope
2- Empire strikes back
3- Return of the Jedi
4- Revenge of the Sith
5- Rogue One
6- The Mandalorian


The rest is rubbish.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by HenriDeadMort

The purpose of this thread is for me to convince you the that TPM is indeed the greatest one

[Show spoiler]
The Phantom Menace is the greatest Star Wars film. (and if not it's the 2nd best, can't see it lower)
Why?
Because first of all it's a much more subtle remake of EP4 than EP7 did
(mainly because there a slight differences and also different point of view)
We are introduced to clumsy humor characters
Jar Jar/R2D2 and (mostly) C3P0
They are stuck , and must fly very well to get enough
Stuck on Tatooine , Podrace/ Stuck in space, Asteroids
"Old" jedi tells hero how the force works and how to use it
Qui Gon to Anakin/Obi Wan to Luke
Some Important people are held captive
Padme (technically no, but she is stuck on Tatooine then on Naboo so i stand my point)/Leia
A young "hero" with 0 experience in flying spaceships Shoots some weak point in a big space object, with it battle is won
Anakin/Luke
"Old" Jedi is killled
Qui Gon/Obi Wan
Bad guy is killed, but not his faction
Darth Maul/Tarkin
i could give more stuff but i think that's enough to get my point.
Midichlorians aren't a problem.
Qui Gon says everything is made of Midichlorians, and rather some people have more Midichlorians than others.
if you played Kotor 2, the player "loses" the force, because they are in exile, AKA losing midichlorians. Because even if you have a somewhat high count of midichlorians, if you dont believe in the force you cant use it.
This is why Yoda is skeptical (And Windu) to train anakin, he's already 9. a high age where he could have lost most of his Midichlorians.
It's a bit like genes, but look at it like Health or fitness (especially weight).
Some people gain/lose weight more easily than others.
but no matter how easily you gain weight, with a good diet, regular physical exercise you will lose it.
Jar Jar.
Apart from the accent which i can understand might offend some, get over it, Jar Jar is supposed to be irritating, he annoys Qui Gon throughout the entire movie, it's the reason he exists. C3P0 in the original is just as dumb if not more than him. And i agree, it's (the movie) orientated towards younger people, but as with the C3P0 example, and also that Lucas said Jar Jar is inspired by Goofy. you can't blame the character so much.
Anakin.
Yes, Jake Lloyd is not a great actor, but the whole dialogue he has and attitude is really realistic.
he's (Anakin) hated by many, probably because he is a slave, isn't very social (seen by how he spent most of his time building C3P0). And as someone who is Really not social, i said much dumber stuff than Anakin at the age of 9. And although the following is not a great argument, remember he was 9!!!.
He ain't not Robert deNiro, of course it's not the greatest performance of all time. What i'm trying to say (in correlation with the realistic part) is that there is a damn reason Lucas chose Lloyd.
Dialogue

I seriously don't understand this one.
Really.
Apart from the above 2 characters, if you want me to make any arguments, you'll have to give me specific examples.
i will say however that in the Original Trilogy (apart from maybe Ep5) the dialogue isn't the greatest thing either. so i don't understand this Specific complaint people have.
I can't really think of any other major complaints for this movie.
Thanks for reading, i hope more people have interesting opinions to discuss (about other movies)

A lot of this seems to boil down to an appreciation of the story's stakes, conflicts, relationships, act structure, archetypes, and parallels to A New Hope. And I agree--much of this, including the dense political aspects, have kept my interest too.

This movie really excited me when it came out for many of these same reasons--as an adult with a more critical eye, I have to admit that the middle sags a lot for me these days, and it just doesn't elicit the same level of excitement like it used to.

[imsounoriginal]

TPM isn't the best Star Wars movie but it might be the one I've watched the most often. It's certainly my favorite of the Prequels.

[levcore]

I don't need convincing, I've always thought it was the best Star Wars movie.

[JustinB13]

Um

[Gacivory]

Why Coronavirus is the best virus of all time!

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

1- A new hope
2- Empire strikes back
3- Return of the Jedi
4- Revenge of the Sith
5- Rogue One
6- The Mandalorian


The rest is rubbish.

i didn't ask for your ranking.
rather why TPM is not at the top of your ranking

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by HenriDeadMort

Apart from the Rise of Skywalker thread.
what and when was the last one you saw?

It is a running joke. Hence the

[CreasyBear]

Agreed. It's my favorite Star Wars film too.

[HenriDeadMort]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Why Coronavirus is the best virus of all time!

Now that's just dickish