Kingdom of Heaven question? - Blu-ray Forum

matts4it · 05-03-2009, 09:06 PM

I have Kingdom of Heaven on bluray, it was the first bluray film i purchased. And I must say I was impressed with the quality. Even in MPEG2, it looks brilliant! My question is, will this be re-released in a higher codec? And if they did it in MPEG4 AVC would it fit on one disc? As you know its quite a long film. Im not sure if this would improve the film by much. But most films I have seen in a higher codec look even better!

Blu-ray_Bax · 05-03-2009, 09:09 PM

Why bother re-releasing it if it's already a high quality disc?

Johnny Vinyl · 05-03-2009, 11:35 PM

I think that was the 2nd. Blu-ray I bought and watched it several times already. I really enjoyed it and I thought the quality was good enough. I certainly wouldn't be double-dipping on a new release using another codec.

John

Sky_Captain · 05-03-2009, 11:37 PM

There's a French version that not only has a differnent codec, but extras included. Unfortunately, it's reported to not look as good as the UK/US MPEG-2 release.

matts4it · 05-07-2009, 03:46 PM

The reason why i would like a better codec for Kingdom of heaven is because in general I have found them to be much better in quality then the MPEG2 versions. I do think the quality of the current uk kingdom of heaven codec is quite good. If a better codec does arrise and the reviews are good then i will trade in the current one for it

Blacklac · 05-11-2009, 11:12 AM

I have the US MPEG2 and French VC-1, and they both look very nice and very similar.

If anyone wants my French VC-1 copy with all the extras (7 hours) let me know. I'm not big on extras, someone may appreciate that disc more than me.

fruity_player · 01-02-2011, 10:07 AM

On eBay I get to see two versions of "Kingdom Of Heaven":

Not that I am hoping that miraculously there are some extras from 4-disc DVD set, but I am wondering whether there is any difference between them other than the cover itself. Anyone?

chip75 · 01-02-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fruity_player

On eBay I get to see two versions of "Kingdom Of Heaven":

Not that I am hoping that miraculously there are some extras from 4-disc DVD set, but I am wondering whether there is any difference between them other than the cover itself. Anyone?

I've never seen the second cover on blu-ray anywhere (it looks like the cover from the 2 disc DVD) only the first one. So the lighter is a re-release or a new cover version same disc. Shame the extras from the 4 disc Definitive steelbook and the digipak have only turned up on the French release. But all BD's have the overture and intermission titlecards removed.

The Driver · 01-02-2011, 04:18 PM

I think this new artwork is just a reprint as the old one is 4 years old and very poor at that with those horrible non-labels which look like labels shouting the fact it'll play on a PS3 -but it's actually printed on the ****ing artwork.

Barcode seems to be the same too 5039036029582.

I have the 4 disc Steelbook DVD so never bothered that the UK Blu-ray disc was extras-less although I was tempted with the French release as it was €10 for quite sometime.

UK 4-disc DVD Steelbook

chip75 · 01-02-2011, 04:44 PM

I have that exact steelbook, with a bloody scratch on it (which I didn't notice until I unwrapped it) a couple of weeks later ASDA had the original 4 disc version (like the LOTR EE's) digipak for a £5 but I didn't have the heart to double-dip.

Strange I couldn't get through the theatrical cut (on DVD) of KOH but the Director's Cut was excellent.

Bk_Tan · 03-14-2011, 11:26 AM

Was just looking at this and the updated release is OOP yet the old one is still in print?

Why on Earth was there a new version if it was going to go OOP before the old one? lol

nightcrawler · 03-14-2011, 05:34 PM

I'm still in two minds about picking up the Blu-ray of this film. I've got the dvd (theatrical) version and have watched it once and just thought it was very average. However I've heard the director's cut is a lot better so may get it if I see it cheap enough somewhere. Is it really that much better than the theatrical cut? It's not a movie I particularly want to double-dip with so am hesitant.

chip75 · 03-14-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nightcrawler

I'm still in two minds about picking up the Blu-ray of this film. I've got the dvd (theatrical) version and have watched it once and just thought it was very average. However I've heard the director's cut is a lot better so may get it if I see it cheap enough somewhere. Is it really that much better than the theatrical cut? It's not a movie I particularly want to double-dip with so am hesitant.

I was honestly bored to tears with the theatrical cut and didn't even watch all of it, the extended cut though was a breath of fresh air it's pacing was better and it was a totally different film. The characters are deeper and the plot fits together better. I think if the director's cut had been released theatrically people would hold the film in such a higher regard than it's shorter release.

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insomniac013 · 03-14-2011, 09:42 PM

I agree with the above poster! I think the Directors Cut is one of Ridley Scott's best movies and it's just a fantastic film all the way! I can't believe FOX butchered it so much into the mess that was the Theatrical Cut... That was a piece of shit!

Now, when is a proper Blu Ray release coming out? There are hours of extras they need to bring over before i double dip!

Tetsuo27 · 03-15-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Driver

I think this new artwork is just a reprint as the old one is 4 years old and very poor at that with those horrible non-labels which look like labels shouting the fact it'll play on a PS3 -but it's actually printed on the ****ing artwork.

Yeah what the hell is up with the horrible artwork on some Blus?

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Originally Posted by The Driver

I have the 4 disc Steelbook DVD so never bothered that the UK Blu-ray disc was extras-less although I was tempted with the French release as it was €10 for quite sometime.

And where are the extras from the DVD in HD!!

DrWally · 03-15-2011, 06:51 PM

I won't buy the Blu-Ray until they re-release it with the cascade of extras that were on the DVD - including the overture and intermission, which gave the movie the feel of an authentic old-school 'roadshow' cienmatic presentation.

05-03-2009, 09:06 PM	#1
matts4it Active Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:54	Kingdom of Heaven question? I have Kingdom of Heaven on bluray, it was the first bluray film i purchased. And I must say I was impressed with the quality. Even in MPEG2, it looks brilliant! My question is, will this be re-released in a higher codec? And if they did it in MPEG4 AVC would it fit on one disc? As you know its quite a long film. Im not sure if this would improve the film by much. But most films I have seen in a higher codec look even better!

03-14-2011, 09:42 PM	#14
insomniac013 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Gravity Falls Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I agree with the above poster! I think the Directors Cut is one of Ridley Scott's best movies and it's just a fantastic film all the way! I can't believe FOX butchered it so much into the mess that was the Theatrical Cut... That was a piece of shit! Now, when is a proper Blu Ray release coming out? There are hours of extras they need to bring over before i double dip! Last edited by insomniac013; 03-14-2011 at 09:45 PM.

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