I thought I understood but now I am confused.... Pioneer displays. - Blu-ray Forum

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 05:17 PM

OK.

I have been looking for a new tv. 42" isn't cutting it so I think I want a 60"(even though it might be a bit big for my room)...

Anyways... I think I want a Pioneer and I thought I understood I wanted a 151FD but now I notice 600M or something like that.

What are all these numbers?

Which is the BEST Plasma from Pioneer in the 50" and 60" sizes?

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 05:26 PM

There is also the 5020 etc...

Head spinning.

I should stick to the Panny displays as I understand the meaning. lol

scweb13 · 05-19-2009, 05:27 PM

I know Sonny will chime in soon, but I'll take a shot at it.

101/141 (50"/60") Signature series is the best (and most expensive)
111/151 Elite series
5020/6020 Non-Elite series

KRP-500M/600m are limited productions series that are a mix of the Signature series and the non-elite series. They fall somewhere between the Signatures and the Non-Elites, depending on who you talk to.

wafi · 05-19-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof

OK.

I have been looking for a new tv. 42" isn't cutting it so I think I want a 60"(even though it might be a bit big for my room)...

Anyways... I think I want a Pioneer and I thought I understood I wanted a 151FD but now I notice 600M or something like that.

What are all these numbers?

Which is the BEST Plasma from Pioneer in the 50" and 60" sizes?

Best is relative aint it? Mags have stated that the 111FD [50" Elite Kuro] is the best hands down. But you cant go wrong with its 60" counterpart. The 151FD is a tv while the 600M is a monitor. In a nutshell the KRPs dont come with tuners, stands or speakers. But are cheaper than the Elites.

Sonny · 05-19-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scweb13

I know Sonny will chime in soon, but I'll take a shot at it.

101/141 (50"/60") Signiture series is the best (and most expensive)
111/151 Elite series
5020/6020 Non-Elite series

KRP-500M/600m are limited productions series that are a mix of the Signiture series and the non-elite series. They fall somewhere between the Signitures and the Non-Elites, depending on who you talk to.

That covers it for the most part.

Are you enjoying the KRP-500M?!?!?!?!?!

scweb13 · 05-19-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

That covers it for the most part.

Are you enjoying the KRP-500M?!?!?!?!?!

Yes.

It's very nice. I'm still tweaking some settings to deal with some room light in the day/evening.

scweb13 · 05-19-2009, 05:34 PM

Here is a comparison chart/thread for the Kuro models.

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 05:35 PM

That's great guys.

I guess when I said "Best", I meant the one that is considered to be "the one to have".

I think the 600M seems to fit my needs. I don't want a TUNER or stand.

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scweb13

Here is a comparison chart/thread for the Kuro models.

That's great.

It's too bad they aren't making these anymore.

scweb13 · 05-19-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof

That's great.

It's too bad they aren't making these anymore.

Some are still available.
Monitor Outlet

You could also call HiFi Heaven, Value Electronics or Invision Displays to see if they still have or are getting more.

jc480 · 05-19-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheZoof

That's great guys.

I guess when I said "Best", I meant the one that is considered to be "the one to have".

I think the 600M seems to fit my needs. I don't want a TUNER or stand.

Take a look at my system and the tuner I chose. May save you some research time (HT gallery link)

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 06:19 PM

I can get the 101FD for 3,052.69 USD at my local store.

Is that a good price?

That is the price converted from Canadian dollars.

scweb13 · 05-19-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof

I can get the 101FD for 3,052.69 USD at my local store.

Is that a good price?

Yes, that is only slightly more than the 600M is available for. If it was me, I would jump on the 101 for that price. They don't call it the Signature series for nothing.

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 06:31 PM

I am really tempted.

The TV I have now is only a year and a half old. It does an ok job but I can tell I am missing some of the great image that Blu's offer.

I think if my tv was a 50" then I would wait but that 8" is a huge difference.

The other concern to me though is I might be better off with the 60" but honestly the room I have it in just isn't big enough for that.

I will think about it over the next few days.

The other consideration is the 111FD. It is only about $120 more and I get the stand and tuner.

Does anyone have a reason not to go with the 111FD, if I can get the 101FD?

The Big Blue · 05-19-2009, 06:35 PM

If I'm understanding correctly I think the Kuro peeps at AVS have made some discoveries recenly that make the XX20 sets an even better value.

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Blue

If I'm understanding correctly I think the Kuro peeps at AVS have made some discoveries recenly that make the XX20 sets an even better value.

I was told my my dealer that they can't get anymore XX20 sets.

Sonny · 05-19-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheZoof

I was told my my dealer that they can't get anymore XX20 sets.

Thats cause BB bought them all!!

Rblu-Dblu · 05-19-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

Thats cause BB bought them all!!

Because theyre a bunch of jerks who like to price gouge(sp).

wafi · 05-19-2009, 07:43 PM

Yeah unfortunately its really kinda late in the day to get the kind of deep discounts we were getting in Feb-March. But whatever you do don't deprive yourself of a Kuro if you can afford it.

TheZoof · 05-19-2009, 07:57 PM

Yeah. I think I will buy it. A friend of mine will take my current tv for $800.

It really only costing me like $2500

haha

I will have to figure out how to mount it etc(in an apartment so I gotta be careful of holes)...

05-19-2009, 05:17 PM	#1
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	I thought I understood but now I am confused.... Pioneer displays. OK. I have been looking for a new tv. 42" isn't cutting it so I think I want a 60"(even though it might be a bit big for my room)... Anyways... I think I want a Pioneer and I thought I understood I wanted a 151FD but now I notice 600M or something like that. What are all these numbers? Which is the BEST Plasma from Pioneer in the 50" and 60" sizes?

05-19-2009, 05:27 PM	#3
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	I know Sonny will chime in soon, but I'll take a shot at it. 101/141 (50"/60") Signature series is the best (and most expensive) 111/151 Elite series 5020/6020 Non-Elite series KRP-500M/600m are limited productions series that are a mix of the Signature series and the non-elite series. They fall somewhere between the Signatures and the Non-Elites, depending on who you talk to. Last edited by scweb13; 05-19-2009 at 05:30 PM. Reason: spelling

05-19-2009, 06:19 PM	#12
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	I can get the 101FD for 3,052.69 USD at my local store. Is that a good price? That is the price converted from Canadian dollars. Last edited by TheZoof; 05-19-2009 at 06:23 PM.

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05-19-2009, 05:26 PM	#2
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	There is also the 5020 etc... Head spinning. I should stick to the Panny displays as I understand the meaning. lol

05-19-2009, 05:34 PM	#7
scweb13 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Everett, WA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:512 DVD collection:29 Trading Score:4	Here is a comparison chart/thread for the Kuro models.

05-19-2009, 05:35 PM	#8
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	That's great guys. I guess when I said "Best", I meant the one that is considered to be "the one to have". I think the 600M seems to fit my needs. I don't want a TUNER or stand.

05-19-2009, 06:31 PM	#14
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	I am really tempted. The TV I have now is only a year and a half old. It does an ok job but I can tell I am missing some of the great image that Blu's offer. I think if my tv was a 50" then I would wait but that 8" is a huge difference. The other concern to me though is I might be better off with the 60" but honestly the room I have it in just isn't big enough for that. I will think about it over the next few days. The other consideration is the 111FD. It is only about $120 more and I get the stand and tuner. Does anyone have a reason not to go with the 111FD, if I can get the 101FD?

05-19-2009, 06:35 PM	#15
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	If I'm understanding correctly I think the Kuro peeps at AVS have made some discoveries recenly that make the XX20 sets an even better value.

05-19-2009, 07:43 PM	#19
wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	Yeah unfortunately its really kinda late in the day to get the kind of deep discounts we were getting in Feb-March. But whatever you do don't deprive yourself of a Kuro if you can afford it.

05-19-2009, 07:57 PM	#20
TheZoof Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Ottawa,Canada Home Theater Gallery:27 4K collection:871 Blu-ray collection:1660 DVD collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 38 Trading Score:2	Yeah. I think I will buy it. A friend of mine will take my current tv for $800. It really only costing me like $2500 haha I will have to figure out how to mount it etc(in an apartment so I gotta be careful of holes)...

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