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Old 10-03-2021, 12:01 PM   #101
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Couldn’t agree more. Awesome economy, great cars, businesses thriving, tech upgrades were fun, Great cars, etc, etc.

Oh and the movies were fabulous too. Who cares what Tarantino says anyways! He’s an amateur hack that makes the same stupid movie over and and over again. He wishes he has films anywhere near as good as some from the 80s. Go away, Quentin. You don’t matter.
Tarantino is smarter than you. Tarantino is more knowledgeable than you. Tarantino is more successful than you will ever be. Tarantino is not blasting random people on the internet.

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Old 10-03-2021, 12:01 PM   #102
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:15 PM   #103
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Tarantino is smarter than you. Tarantino is more knowledgeable than you. Tarantino is more successful than you will ever be. Tarantino is not blasting random people on the internet.

Tarantino > You

I really don't give a *&^$ what Tarantino thinks or says
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:39 PM   #104
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Tarantino is smarter than you. Tarantino is more knowledgeable than you. Tarantino is more successful than you will ever be. Tarantino is not blasting random people on the internet.

Tarantino > You
Oh Creasy - relax. You know nothing about me personally. Lets get that out of the way. Apparently you have a man-crush on him. Thats your call. .

Hes not blasting random people on the web - hes blasting eras of films that happen to contain some extremely well loved and critically acclaimed films. He sounds like an !@#$ doing this. Nothing to do with being smart, its called being wrong or actually dumb. Knowledgeable? About what? Certainly not movies.

Tarantino != Me == I couldnt care less.
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:45 PM   #105
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Knowledgeable? About what? Certainly not movies.
He seems to only know about a certain kind of schlock cinema. I've never heard him talk about much else than that, and everything about his interests tells me he's not had a very interesting life outside of working at a video store. The classic film directors who were making some great movies in the 1950s had led much more interesting lives - in some cases fleeing from actual Nazi occupation in Europe - and they brought that with them when they made movies.
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Old 10-03-2021, 12:53 PM   #106
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Oh Creasy - relax. You know nothing about me personally. Lets get that out of the way. Apparently you have a man-crush on him. Thats your call. .

Hes not blasting random people on the web - hes blasting eras of films that happen to contain some extremely well loved and critically acclaimed films. He sounds like an !@#$ doing this. Nothing to do with being smart, its called being wrong or actually dumb. Knowledgeable? About what? Certainly not movies.

Tarantino != Me == I couldnt care less.
You called him an amateur hack. I returned the favor.

He also didn't disregard the entire decades, if you any knowledge of cinema beyond big budget tentpole films of the last forty years. He's right. The 50's, largely due to censorship and the Mccarthyism of the time, was a very banal time for American cinema producing run of the mill unsubstantial films, much like the jingoism of the 80's, in mainstream cinema, especially in the latter half of the decade, produced. There's a lot of great work in foreign films of the 50's and there's a lot of independent films of the 80's, but by and large, there's not a lot of crossover. A lot like now, actually.
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The 50's, largely due to censorship and the Mccarthyism of the time, was a very banal time for American cinema producing run of the mill unsubstantial films
Sunset Blvd., On The Waterfront, Vertigo, Paths of Glory, Stalag 17, North by Northwest, Rebel Without a Cause, High Noon and Touch of Evil would like to have a word.
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Old 10-03-2021, 01:06 PM   #108
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Sunset Blvd., On The Waterfront, Vertigo, Paths of Glory, Stalag 17, North by Northwest, Rebel Without a Cause, High Noon and Touch of Evil would like to have a word.
What part of "by and large" don't you understand? There's a lot of great films to come out of the 50's that broke through, but there's largely a lot of conformist pap.
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Which has nothing to do with the topic of how bad censorship was in the 50s and 80s
It's the 4th post, and doesn't have as many likes. The entire thread and linked article is misleading. He didn't say the era was bad...just that censorship and/or political correctness was at it's worst then.
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Old 10-03-2021, 02:58 PM   #110
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You called him an amateur hack. I returned the favor.

He also didn't disregard the entire decades, if you any knowledge of cinema beyond big budget tentpole films of the last forty years. He's right. The 50's, largely due to censorship and the Mccarthyism of the time, was a very banal time for American cinema producing run of the mill unsubstantial films, much like the jingoism of the 80's, in mainstream cinema, especially in the latter half of the decade, produced. There's a lot of great work in foreign films of the 50's and there's a lot of independent films of the 80's, but by and large, there's not a lot of crossover. A lot like now, actually.
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It's the 4th post, and doesn't have as many likes. The entire thread and linked article is misleading. He didn't say the era was bad...just that censorship and/or political correctness was at it's worst then.
All right - I admit I read the thread title and mostly went with that. If his main point was strictly/mostly about censorship then thats different.

However, despite censorship or whatever, that still doesnt relegate the numerous great films that came out(especially in the 80s) to the junk bin. Its one the best eras for films, IMO. The 50's? Im not into nearly as much from then but thats a little before my time too.
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Tarantino is smarter than you. Tarantino is more knowledgeable than you. Tarantino is more successful than you will ever be. Tarantino is not blasting random people on the internet.

Tarantino > You
Nah. He just does it publicly.

He's also a total wuss who can't defend his girlfriend when she really needed the help.

Guy is an ego maniac who thinks of only himself. Or at least he was, as it seems he's grown up a bit lately (not visible via his films thought).
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Tarantino is smarter than you. Tarantino is more knowledgeable than you. Tarantino is more successful than you will ever be. Tarantino is not blasting random people on the internet.

Tarantino > You
Tarantino won’t see this and hang out with you. He doesn’t need you defending him on an internet message board.
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Old 10-03-2021, 03:13 PM   #113
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Tarantino won’t see this and hang out with you. He doesn’t need you defending him on an internet message board.
Some people still have delusions of grandeur...
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All right - I admit I read the thread title and mostly went with that. If his main point was strictly/mostly about censorship then thats different.

However, despite censorship or whatever, that still doesnt relegate the numerous great films that came out(especially in the 80s) to the junk bin. Its one the best eras for films, IMO. The 50's? Im not into nearly as much from then but thats a little before my time too.
That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."
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Yes he does! He just doesn't know it...


...yet.
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That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."

Oh man...Top Gun is perfection.

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80s is in a tie with the 50s for the number of dumbasses who declare them to be the "good ole days" on everyone else's behalf.
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Old 10-03-2021, 04:35 PM   #118
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That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."
Every decade has great films and garbage bin BS. The latter part of the 80's decade had lots of great films. Aliens? Back to the Future? Those are but a couple of the much larger group. No, the group arent all masterpieces but they are memorable, good films. More memorable than anything Quentin has done. Sorry, had to.

I dont get it - I never took you as the film snob type, Creasy. Not going by other posts and seeing some films you've defended which arent all exactly "deep thinking noir" movies! C'mon, man! .

I dont get why the 50s and 80s were singled out here. Its like saying no good music came out of the XXXX and YYYY decade or no good <whatever> came out. Its just incorrect and sounds silly.

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80s is in a tie with the 50s for the number of dumbasses who declare them to be the "good ole days" on everyone else's behalf.
The 80's were majestically awesome, at least in the USA. Sorry if you werent there/here to enjoy. Great movies, great cars, great music & fun times. I wasnt around for the 50's but watching Leave it to Beaver sure made it look halfway decent. :d

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Sunset Blvd., On The Waterfront, Vertigo, Paths of Glory, Stalag 17, North by Northwest, Rebel Without a Cause, High Noon and Touch of Evil would like to have a word.
The Men, Viva Zapata, A Streetcar named Desire, East of Eden, Bridge on the River Kwai, The wild one, The aspault Jungle, Desiree, Julius Caeser.
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Just more for the garbage bin! /S
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