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Old 08-09-2021, 03:36 PM   #1
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I can name 100 films from the 80's off the top of my head that are better than any of Tarantino's "homages".
Which has nothing to do with the topic of how bad censorship was in the 50s and 80s
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Which has nothing to do with the topic of how bad censorship was in the 50s and 80s
It's the 4th post, and doesn't have as many likes. The entire thread and linked article is misleading. He didn't say the era was bad...just that censorship and/or political correctness was at it's worst then.
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You called him an amateur hack. I returned the favor.

He also didn't disregard the entire decades, if you any knowledge of cinema beyond big budget tentpole films of the last forty years. He's right. The 50's, largely due to censorship and the Mccarthyism of the time, was a very banal time for American cinema producing run of the mill unsubstantial films, much like the jingoism of the 80's, in mainstream cinema, especially in the latter half of the decade, produced. There's a lot of great work in foreign films of the 50's and there's a lot of independent films of the 80's, but by and large, there's not a lot of crossover. A lot like now, actually.
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It's the 4th post, and doesn't have as many likes. The entire thread and linked article is misleading. He didn't say the era was bad...just that censorship and/or political correctness was at it's worst then.
All right - I admit I read the thread title and mostly went with that. If his main point was strictly/mostly about censorship then thats different.

However, despite censorship or whatever, that still doesnt relegate the numerous great films that came out(especially in the 80s) to the junk bin. Its one the best eras for films, IMO. The 50's? Im not into nearly as much from then but thats a little before my time too.
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All right - I admit I read the thread title and mostly went with that. If his main point was strictly/mostly about censorship then thats different.

However, despite censorship or whatever, that still doesnt relegate the numerous great films that came out(especially in the 80s) to the junk bin. Its one the best eras for films, IMO. The 50's? Im not into nearly as much from then but thats a little before my time too.
That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."
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That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."

Oh man...Top Gun is perfection.

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That's. Not. What. He. Said.

And as far as the 80's goes, there's so much garbage bin shit that it outweighs the genuinely good films, mostly made during the first half of the decade. Hell, half of the great films of the entire decade came out in 1980-1982 - Blade Runner, The Thing, Conan the Barbarian, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Shining, Dressed to Kill, First Blood, Excalibur, Empire Strikes Back, Wrath of Khan, Raging Bull, Das Boot, Poltergeist, The Elephant Man, etc. Most of the latter of the decade was propelled by bubblegum bullshit. Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop, Crocodile Dundee, Look Who's Talking, etc. That's the kind of shit that was popular and they're just boring films with nothing to offer aside from 90 minutes of mindless and witless "entertainment."
Every decade has great films and garbage bin BS. The latter part of the 80's decade had lots of great films. Aliens? Back to the Future? Those are but a couple of the much larger group. No, the group arent all masterpieces but they are memorable, good films. More memorable than anything Quentin has done. Sorry, had to.

I dont get it - I never took you as the film snob type, Creasy. Not going by other posts and seeing some films you've defended which arent all exactly "deep thinking noir" movies! C'mon, man! .

I dont get why the 50s and 80s were singled out here. Its like saying no good music came out of the XXXX and YYYY decade or no good <whatever> came out. Its just incorrect and sounds silly.

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80s is in a tie with the 50s for the number of dumbasses who declare them to be the "good ole days" on everyone else's behalf.
The 80's were majestically awesome, at least in the USA. Sorry if you werent there/here to enjoy. Great movies, great cars, great music & fun times. I wasnt around for the 50's but watching Leave it to Beaver sure made it look halfway decent. :d

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