Are UHD Blu-rays coded only with HDR10? (No Dolby Vision)

[mfan1986]

Hi guys,

I’m just curious about the current HDR formats. So TV’s can offer HDR10 or HDR10+ or Dolby Vision playback, but as far as UHD 4K BluRay discs themselves, they are always coded with HDR10?

I’ve heard Dolby Vision is the best HDR playback format, so this means this format is exclusive to online streaming services like Netflix?

[Matt89]

All UHD Blu-rays that feature HDR are encoded in HDR10. DV and HDR10+ are enhancement layers and not all UHDs have them.

There are also some UHD discs that are encoded in SDR (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly; Color Out of Space and the Argento cut of Dawn of the Dead are some examples). But yeah, if a UHD features HDR, it always has HDR10 as the base layer.

~Matt

[TripleHBK]

List of UHD's with Dolby Vision:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448

[koberulz]

Some are, some aren't, but this belongs in the 4K section.

[meremortal]

And then there's the weird 'other' category of some digital 4k releases that do not have hdr at all. You have to closely read/pay attention when ordering.

[jkoffman]

I haven't upgraded to 4K yet, so I've only kept these questions in the back of mind, and hoping the dust will settle before I have to choose a new TV. I googled and this was a very helpful summary for me.

[TripleHBK]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

I haven't upgraded to 4K yet, so I've only kept these questions in the back of mind, and hoping the dust will settle before I have to choose a new TV. I googled and this was a very helpful summary for me.

When the time comes get yourself a Sony or LG OLED and you'll be happy. Current gen LED sets are focused more on variable refresh rate and other HDMI 2.1 features that are more focused on gamers. The Sony OLED tvs and LG OLED tv's are a movie fans dream and easily handle all the various HDR formats with ease.

[filmgenius89]

To be honest though, it really shouldn't matter when you order a disc which format it has. If you're looking to pirchase a film, buy the best version of the film available. The plays the thing, remember!

But yes, if you're going to buy a new tv, id much faster buy one with DV capabilities

[mfan1986]

Amazing info, thanks guys.

I guess when watching content on YouTube that is in 4K (2160p) or on Amazon Prime, there is no way of knowing what HDR format it is?

[cminer72]

Dolby Vision is highly overrated. There are many factors that go into the picture quality of your TV. The gap has closed between HDR and Dolby Vision too. And there are players, like Panasonic, that have HDR optimizers that make DV a mute point. Many people with the Panasonic prefer the optimizer over Dolby Vision, because the colors pop more. There are others who will believe marketing over their own eyes though.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

When the time comes get yourself a Sony or LG OLED and you'll be happy. Current gen LED sets are focused more on variable refresh rate and other HDMI 2.1 features that are more focused on gamers. The Sony OLED tvs and LG OLED tv's are a movie fans dream and easily handle all the various HDR formats with ease.

This is where it currently gets confusing to me. Why wouldn't you want to have full compatibility?

New TVs from Philips and Panasonic, meanwhile, support both formats.

[cminer72]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

When the time comes get yourself a Sony or LG OLED and you'll be happy. Current gen LED sets are focused more on variable refresh rate and other HDMI 2.1 features that are more focused on gamers. The Sony OLED tvs and LG OLED tv's are a movie fans dream and easily handle all the various HDR formats with ease.

I disagree with a lot of this. Sony does have the best picture for movies, but that’s due to their software. Even Sony LCDs look great. LG is garbage in my opinion. If you want want a short term game monitor, then fine. I say short term because LG is garbage for reliability. Sony is much better from a quality and reliability standpoint. Neither Sony nor LG supports DTS pass through. Sony does not support HDR10+. The only TVs with all the video and audio features available are “lower quality” TVs like Hisense and TCL. Which is bizarre and infuriating.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

This is where it currently gets confusing to me. Why wouldn't you want to have full compatibility?

If you offered me the choice of a Philips TV with all the formats or an equivalent Sony that just had 10 and DV, I'd be buying the Sony every single time.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by cminer72

Dolby Vision is highly overrated.

I Sharted.

[jkoffman]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

If you offered me the choice of a Philips TV with all the formats or an equivalent Sony that just had 10 and DV, I'd be buying the Sony every single time.

I appreciate that, but can you summarize why? Any time I wade into this I find too lengthy of an answer to make proper sense of it.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

I appreciate that, but can you summarize why? Any time I wade into this I find too lengthy of an answer to make proper sense of it.

Sonys are better TVs all round

[nick4Knight]

I've seen people doing replies to this but I'm not seeing a clear answer in the way that the question is formed. Perhaps it shouldn't have been merged onto the mainboard (from wherever irrelevant area it was) but into the sticky one.

Just seems utterly useless as its own topic.

Originally Posted by cminer72

LG is garbage in my opinion. If you want want a short term game monitor, then fine. I say short term because LG is garbage for reliability. Sony is much better from a quality and reliability standpoint.

While I'm not a Sony basher in defence of my preference; I don't think this pitting against brands crap is very honest. You are talking about "short term" in the most misleading way. I know the specifications and the expected half brightness lifetime of most modern LG 4K OLED displays is 25 years. Now there are brands like Sony that 'guarantee' more (like up to 50) but do you really need more guarantee than 25 years... Does that really grant them to be called garbage? Really?

We're all going to be buying new sets in under 20. Most of us in under 10. And the rare among us buy the latest every 2-4 years to keep up with the joneses. So in real world purchasing sets only have to forgo garbage status setting before the 10 year mark, 15 at the upper end of expectation.

[mfan1986]

What do you guys think of the upcoming QNED technology for movies?

[Zoland2020]

Originally Posted by cminer72

Neither Sony nor LG supports DTS pass through.

Sony TVs still support DTS (from regular DTS all the way to DTS:X) to this day, especially since they also support IMAX Enhanced. It's just only Samsung and LG that don't support DTS anything anymore since 2018 and 2020 respectively.