Like him or hate him, The Critical Drinker nails it about remakes/sequels/reboots...

[drush9999]

The only thing I completely agree with, is there's too much "content" out there now whether it's theatrical or on streaming. It's not just reboots and sequels, it's also so called "original" stuff that follows the same old tropes. If you're fast approaching 50 like I am and watched tens of thousands of movies, it's very hard to find stuff that's actually original.

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by drush9999

The only thing I completely agree with, is there's too much "content" out there now whether it's theatrical or on streaming. It's not just reboots and sequels, it's also so called "original" stuff that follows the same old tropes. If you're fast approaching 50 like I am and watched tens of thousands of movies, it's very hard to find stuff that's actually original.

There's an overabundance of "contento", and very few truly worthwile stories, I agree.

Which IMO has been made worse through streaming, because movies don't need to go to the process of "would this even be a worthwile movie to try and get even a small theatrical audience for"?

Simply because streamers are hungry for content, regardless of how or what it is. They just want more of those little thumbnail pics and trailers to present to potential new subscribers.

And if possible, they want stars in those trailers.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by drush9999

The only thing I completely agree with, is there's too much "content" out there now whether it's theatrical or on streaming. It's not just reboots and sequels, it's also so called "original" stuff that follows the same old tropes. If you're fast approaching 50 like I am and watched tens of thousands of movies, it's very hard to find stuff that's actually original.

This is also an issue. Also something I brought up before, that sometimes the things we enjoy outgrow us. It is a cross genre thing, with Games and Music as well. When you have seen every trick what is left?

It is like Smart Phones, all they can do is improve the camera.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by -JKR-

There's an overabundance of "contento", and very few truly worthwile stories, I agree.

Which IMO has been made worse through streaming, because movies don't need to go to the process of "would this even be a worthwile movie to try and get even a small theatrical audience for"?

Simply because streamers are hungry for content, regardless of how or what it is. They just want more of those little thumbnail pics and trailers to present to potential new subscribers.

And if possible, they want stars in those trailers.

I think it is in the uptick and churn of productions. Before it was direct to DVD. Now it is direct to streaming. The difference is now streaming has quality material. You also have an issue with limited play dates and screens in theaters.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by mwynn

This is also an issue. Also something I brought up before, that sometimes the things we enjoy outgrow us. It is a cross genre thing, with Games and Music as well. When you have seen every trick what is left?

It is like Smart Phones, all they can do is improve the camera.

Bold = yep, lol. And we do outgrow stuff. There are plenty of movies or shows that I adored as a kid. But, when I revisited them as an adult I was like "Oh.... thats kind of lame".

Originally Posted by mwynn

I think it is in the uptick and churn of productions. Before it was direct to DVD. Now it is direct to streaming. The difference is now streaming has quality material. You also have an issue with limited play dates and screens in theaters.

Streaming certainly does have quality material. All kinds of great shows that have come through the streaming systems. Its just a it much and theres another thread that gets into details about the issues and pitfalls with too much streaming/proprietary content.

[mwynn]

The proprietary thing was already a thing with Cable and Theaters.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by drush9999

The only thing I completely agree with, is there's too much "content" out there now whether it's theatrical or on streaming. It's not just reboots and sequels, it's also so called "original" stuff that follows the same old tropes. If you're fast approaching 50 like I am and watched tens of thousands of movies, it's very hard to find stuff that's actually original.

Heh. It's gotten to the point where I can quote dialogue before it's spoken on something I've never seen before, and 'twists' in movies become glaringly obvious in the first reel (like Eternals). Not that I refuse to watch anything nowadays but people stress too much about all this contento, there's way more than I could get through in a lifetime which is WHY I still gravitate towards IP that I know and love whilst cherry-picking a few things that pique my interest e.g. For All Mankind, Queen's Gambit, Station Eleven.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Queen's Gambit

Coolest shit Ive watched in a long time. We weren't even going to bother but couldnt find anything else and said screw it. Its the best "awe screw it" we've ever been a part of

[Fenway55]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I tried watching one of his videos once, but his voice got on my tits. From what I can tell, he's another of these YouTubers who constantly complains about big IPs, but hardly ever gives the time of day to lesser-known films he might actually enjoy.

You should look harder then. There are a lot of "The Critical Drinker Recommends..." videos.

Originally Posted by Foggy

A big thing that would solve this problem is if these grown ass adults stopped getting so emotional attached to commercial properties from when they were kids and grew up a little, potentially watching something more tailored to their age.

Yeah! Who are all these jerks discussing movies in..... a .... movie forum.

Wait, whuh?

[HotRats]

"It is never difficult to distinguish between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine." P.G. Wodehouse

[Guy87]

My main concern in life isn't a lack of stuff, it's an overabundance of stuff.

I could quit my job and sit in my house ingesting content and still not find time to watch all of the stuff I want to.

It actually depresses me a bit. I want to watch it all.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

You should look harder then. There are a lot of "The Critical Drinker Recommends..." videos.

He has a playlist of 18 video for The Drinker reccomends. The films (and shows) are as follows:

1. The Boys
2. Cobra Kai
3. Chernobyl
4. Event Horizon
5. Falling Down
6. 1917
7. Ford V Ferrari
8. Predator
9. Unforgiven
10. Blade runner
11. Jaws
12. Dredd
13. Fight club
14. The expanse
15. 2010: the year we make contact
16. Invincible
17. Arcane
18. Spider-Man: no way home

Yeah he's a real god damn champion of lesser known, independent, original, and none franchise productions, isn't he?

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

15. 2010: the year we make contact

That this ever became an "underappreciated" movie is weird to me. Disappointing, overly sentimental retread of the original. I really hoped for new things.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Guy87

My main concern in life isn't a lack of stuff, it's an overabundance of stuff.

I could quit my job and sit in my house ingesting content and still not find time to watch all of the stuff I want to.

It actually depresses me a bit. I want to watch it all.

Same with reading books, actually the books thing is probably worse as it takes longer to read a book than to watch a movie. I agree with what you say, too much content to get through.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Fenway55

You should look harder then. There are a lot of "The Critical Drinker Recommends..." videos.

Yeah! Who are all these jerks discussing movies in..... a .... movie forum.

Wait, whuh?

Bit of a difference between enjoying and talking about movies and ranting about films that came out a couple years ago based on films that came out thirty years ago.

[JamesKurtovich]

I usually agree with almost every point he makes if I catch one of his videos.

Good example:

Why The Hobbit Trilogy Failed To Equal Lord Of The Rings - YouTube

[Martoto]

Critical drinker.....

Bloody hell.

[RossyG]

"This person said this - discuss his points..." can be an interesting debate.

"No, because that person is awful" is just thread crapping and very, very boring.

And "He's just some YouTuber so who cares?" is a very dated outlook. People with a million subs on YouTube, be they the Critical Drinker or Grace Randolph, have more viewers than a lot of mainstream media outlets.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by RossyG

"This person said this - discuss his points..." can be an interesting debate.

"No, because that person is awful" is just thread crapping and very, very boring.

And "He's just some YouTuber so who cares?" is a very dated outlook. People with a million subs on YouTube, be they the Critical Drinker or Grace Randolph, have more viewers than a lot of mainstream media outlets.

When someone asks for a discussion on the views of a youtube personality they are inviting a discussion of the youtubers persona. His view counts are everything to do with the persona. Live by the flex - die by the flex.