HBO Max's "Tokyo Vice" (by Michael Mann)

[Doctor Jack]

Originally Posted by BudBaxter

Weird that Michael Mann's name is nowhere to be seen in the trailer. He's the main reason I'd watch this. Is he just a director-for-hire here? Or does his name not mean anything to the viewing public anymore?

hate to break it to you, but outside of film lovers, Mann’s name has never meant anything to the general public. Ask 100 general public people who directed Heat, maybe 5 will know. He’s never been a household name or selling point.

[Youre My Boy Blu!]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

hate to break it to you, but outside of film lovers, Mann’s name has never meant anything to the general public. Ask 100 general public people who directed Heat, maybe 5 will know. He’s never been a household name or selling point.

Agreed. Mann may not be a blockbuster draw on his own.
However, it is still important to recognize that studios/producers will request him to direct because he tends to draw an elite ensemble cast for his projects.
And it'll be the cast that sells the movie or in this case, the series.

[jan_tran]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

... and he's an actor. They're all disgusting creeps and perverts by default anyways.

Not Tom Hanks, too? America's Dad?

[Zechs Merquise]

I think the question that's on everyone's minds is

Patrick Stewart - Is There Any Nudity? - YouTube

[Star Lord]

Hyped because Mann and interesting setting, but Ansel Elgort..yikes! Dude acts like a derp in everything and heard he's like that in real life too.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Originally Posted by BudBaxter

Weird that Michael Mann's name is nowhere to be seen in the trailer. He's the main reason I'd watch this. Is he just a director-for-hire here? Or does his name not mean anything to the viewing public anymore?

He only directed the first episode.

[BudBaxter]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

hate to break it to you, but outside of film lovers, Mann’s name has never meant anything to the general public. Ask 100 general public people who directed Heat, maybe 5 will know. He’s never been a household name or selling point.

Sadly, that's probably true, but if you put something like "From Michael Mann, the creator of Miami Vice & Heat" in your trailer, I imagine it would entice a lot more people to watch than "Starring Ansel Elgort".

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

hate to break it to you, but outside of film lovers, Mann’s name has never meant anything to the general public. Ask 100 general public people who directed Heat, maybe 5 will know. He’s never been a household name or selling point.

The same is true of most directors, really. It used to be that only Hitchcock and Cecil B DeMille could get people to go to the cinemas on their name recognition alone. Since the 80s we could probably add a few more names but by-and-large nobody cares who directs the film. It's all about who's in it for most people

[Foggy]

Looks ****ing dope!

[jan_tran]

Was a bit concerned due to the lack of promotion but reviews have been released and they're pretty stellar.
First three episodes premiere tomorrow.

[Agent Bond]

Haven't read the book, but the show is pretty good. Reminded me of True Detective in some ways. I was impressed with the cinematography and Miyamoto is a fun character.

[rasbumr819]

First episode was fantastic and as good as anything Mann has done post The Insider. This is coming from someone who always finds something to appreciate in his work, Blackhat included.

I hope the quality continues. I will be tuning in. Love that they dropped three episodes right off the bat.

Also, the protagonist (Elgort) is played very well. Haven’t seen anything else he’s been in so maybe I had that going for me.

[Naiera]

He’s a huge piece of crap, though.

[VictoryAtNight]

I just watched the trailer on YouTube and it looks interesting. I need to find time to start watching this.

[PissedOffPeoN]

Originally Posted by rasbumr819

First episode was fantastic and as good as anything Mann has done post The Insider. This is coming from someone who always finds something to appreciate in his work, Blackhat included.

I hope the quality continues. I will be tuning in. Love that they dropped three episodes right off the bat.

Also, the protagonist (Elgort) is played very well. Haven’t seen anything else he’s been in so maybe I had that going for me.

baby driver a good watch if u have not seen him in anything before like i have.

[Socko]

I completely forgot about this one.
Gonna watch this tonight!

[BudBaxter]

Watched all 3 episodes. It's OK, but that's about as far as I'd go. The way the trailer is cut makes it out to be some kind of exciting thriller with plenty of action. It's not that at all. If you go in expecting a drama, I imagine you'll enjoy it more.

Mann's episode - like most of his work since he discovered digital cameras - looks like it was shot on a camcorder. Given he was such an early adopter of the format, you'd think he'd have learned how to use it properly by now.

Elgort's terrible, smug, & as punchable as ever, but the rest of the cast is very good, especially Ken Watanabe & Rinko Kikuchi. Rachel Keller reminded me a lot of Katee Sackhoff.

I'll give it a couple more episodes, but it needs to do something interesting to grab me soon.

BTW, did I miss a title card at the beginning saying when this is set? It's clearly not today, but if there were any mentions of a date, I didn't catch them.

[TheSweetieMan]

The first episode was so damn boring. Easily the most mundane hour of filmmaking I’ve ever watched from Michael Mann.

I don’t have any interest in watching the other two episodes.

Ansel Elgort is too boring in this role for the series to be occupying so much time on him.

Easy pass for those on the fence about this. It’s pointless really.

[Thieves Dont]

Originally Posted by BudBaxter

Watched all 3 episodes. It's OK, but that's about as far as I'd go. The way the trailer is cut makes it out to be some kind of exciting thriller with plenty of action. It's not that at all. If you go in expecting a drama, I imagine you'll enjoy it more.

Mann's episode - like most of his work since he discovered digital cameras - looks like it was shot on a camcorder. Given he was such an early adopter of the format, you'd think he'd have learned how to use it properly by now.

Elgort's terrible, smug, & as punchable as ever, but the rest of the cast is very good, especially Ken Watanabe & Rinko Kikuchi. Rachel Keller reminded me a lot of Katee Sackhoff.

I'll give it a couple more episodes, but it needs to do something interesting to grab me soon.

BTW, did I miss a title card at the beginning saying when this is set? It's clearly not today, but if there were any mentions of a date, I didn't catch them.

After the opening scene it says “two years ago” or something similar then 1999 flashes on the screen.

A lot of the music choices make no sense for some of the club scenes and it’s annoying the hell out of me because they’re more than a few years off haha.

[spf781]

Watched the first three episodes this afternoon. I really like what I have seen so far. Yeah, Elgort is kinda bland but not enough to make me turn it off. The cinematography is really nice and the score by Danny Bensi & Saunder Jurriaans is terrific.