movies that say 7.1 dts mastes aud. but only play in 5.1

[Uncle Leo]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

I did have another movie that is listed as 6.1 DTS-HD-HR (High Resolution) and that movie was "Total Recall" and on my receiver it shows as mentioned above; correctly! Looks like arnold is batting 500 with the DTS folks! Again, I think it's the way that the movie has encoded it's audio in such a way that it doesn't look quite right to the receiver despite the fact that the player says it's putting out 6.1, T2 skynet edition would only show up on the receiver end as 5.1 so i think something didn't look right to Onkyo. once i get the new UMC-1 from Emotiva either later this month or early next month, i'll re-do the test and let you all know what i come up with.

You just quoted yourself?

[solarrdadd]

and it felt real good too!

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by onehothemi

Not outstanding the fact that the T2 skynet in my bdp-s350 takes a year to load, it does process to my onkyo 606 fine as DTS-MA 6.1 MATRIX which if you have a DTSMA/HD receiver that is capable of processing it, depending on the connection and settings should play the 6 and 7th channel as 1 to give you the 6th of the 6.1, unless your receiver is a 6.1 direct and you have a single rear channel speaker in which case the reciever will directly output to that single rear. Other than that the other disks work fine for me

I don't have my receiver set to receive any "matrix" for my blu-ray movies they are bitstreamed and the receiver is set to "direct". DTS-HD-MA does in fact light up on my receiver, however, when i press the display button it says 5.1 and the speaker setup on the screen shows the 5 speakers in use. when i select display on the Oppo player on screen it says DTS-HD-MA 6.1 is what it's sending out. I'm saying that this is the only movie in my entire collection that does this. i did list other 6.1 movies that i have, all in the DTS flavor and all play and display 6.1 on the receiver. that is why i said i think it's an issue with the way the movie makers encoded the disc. my other 6.1 movies play as you mentioned with my two surround back speakers seen as one with the same sound coming out of both of them to simulate one central speakers instead of two seperate back channels like i said earlier.

[hardiride69]

hi every one thanks 4 replying to this . but last night i did put the movie in my ps3 and yes it is set to pcm and your right everything lit up all 7.1 speakers so the problem is that my reciver wont show thats its 6.1 or 7.1 {just on some movies not all like saw ,rambo all work great }using the 550 but i do have to say i was thinking about getting riide of the ps3 sence it like new and never used because i used the 550 most of the time but i see with movie like condemnd ,t2 i might end up needing it but i do have another ? i see pioneer has cam out with a cpl new blu-ray players and was thinking about getting rid of the sony 550 and ps3 what do you think and does anyone know about the pioneer sc07 reciver is it any better then my 94txh or should i look back into a yamaha reciver i still have my 1 owner rxv 3200 yamaha and am a big fan of my yamaha paired up with my klispch klf 30's

[gear]

Why are you looking to get rid of the 94TXH? It works fine for all movies even the Condemned. The only problem is you get 5.1 lights on some 7.1 movies. The movies are still coming through and being decoded as 7.1 it's just that the lights aren't showing 7.1 due to the way a few 7.1 movies are encoded. It's just an issue with the lights it's still decoding it as 7.1.

BTW people have reported the same "light" problem with Onkyo and Yamaha receivers with the same movies. It just that these few movies are coded in a non-standard way. There's really nothing wrong with your Pioneer.

[hardiride69]

well before i have my pioneer i had and still have a yamaha rxv 3200 and to me i like the sound that yamaha and my klipsch sound together

[gear]

Now I understand. If you like the sound of the Yamaha better then you may try to look for a more recent model. The 3200 came out around 1998 and a newer Yamaha will have more features like HDMI switching etc...

[Clapton101]

I have the Pioneer Elite VSX-91 mine show 5.1 DTS-HDMA and that is all that is coming out of it. There is nothing coming through my 6th speaker. It does on everything up to the movie starting?

[davcole]

Sounds like first generation HDMI receivers like the Pioneer and the Onkyos have problems with the ES flag in the DTSHR/DTSMA signals.

[gear]

Originally Posted by davcole

Sounds like first generation HDMI receivers like the Pioneer and the Onkyos have problems with the ES flag in the DTSHR/DTSMA signals.

Yamaha has the problem as well, but it seems that all these receiver's only have the problem on 5 or 10 movies that are encoded in a non-standard way that the manufacturers did not account for. Since it's only the lights, it really doesn't matter to me. The lights are so tiny I never look at them anyway. I just pull up the heads up display on the PS3 that shows 5.1 6.1, or 7.1 to see the decoding. As long as the sound comes out the back speakers then I really don't care about the tiny lights.

[STARSCREAM]

Originally Posted by theleep

This happens to me also on Terminator 2: Skynet. I have the BDP-S350 and Onkyo TX-SR605 receiver. I am wondering if this is a problem with the player or the receiver, because the display on the player says 5.1. Anyone else with the S350 having this problem?

My ps3 info bar shows 6.1 on T2 but the receiver shows 5.1. Here's the deal, alot of these 6.1/7.1 mixes are showing 5.1 on receivers because the flags for the extr channel/s aren't being picked up. If 6.1 isn't an actual discrete true 6.1 then it has a flag for the extra channel for stuff like 6.1 es/ex mixes. This is the case with T2. Sometimes the flags aren't read properly and thus that extra channel isn't picked up. In this case just pick an ex dsp on your receiver.

[hardiride69]

has anyone heard anything about the new pioneer blu-ray players it seams the panasonic is on top again with there nerw line of blu-rays

[WetCardboard]

Sorry to give life to such an old thread but I am having a similar issue with Rambo on Blu-Ray as well. I am only getting 5.1 DTS-HD MA playback when I should be getting 7.1. Here's the odd thing, it USED to work...I previously had PowerDVD8 Ultra installed but I recently did the upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 and got PowerDVD9 Ultra. My only other DTS-HD MA 7.1 Blu-Ray is 3:10 To Yuma and that plays back all 8 channels. Any ideas? Thanks!