(rant)comparison of blu-ray price od player lower compared to dvd?

[jorg]

dose any one remember how much players were in 1998 (1 year after dvd launch) and in 1999(2 years after dvd launch) the reason why im aksing this is becuase once again hd dvd fanboys found a way to bring my piss to a boil
i was over at HD DIGEST and saw the sony anouce ment for mid rang and hing end player:
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news...ay_Players/934
great we got some new player with good pictur and uadio quality lets keep teh stanted high even if i have to work for a week more at least i know im getting the best so i look in the form
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=17558
and i read a post like this

Wow, once again two more affordable Blu-ray players hitting the market very soon. What HD DVD fan wouldn't want to spend $700 to get basically the same quality video and audio. What a deal. Thanks Sony.
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like wtf a high end companie releases high end players like that like bashing NAD or martin logan for having only expensive stuff like am i just crazy in thinking " u want cheap/rock bottome i can work for 6 hours to buy one players #1 wait untill the format is half way threw its life span so we can get some qaulity players into teh system and #2find a cheap crappy 10 second build pos chiness player like are pople so stupid maybe we should bash toshiba and panny and sammy for not making 30$ players like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is my rant

[bootman]

I hate when people try to tell me how to spend my money.

Always buy the best YOU can afford.
After all it is you that's enjoying it, no one else.

[CAB]

Toshiba losing tons subsidizing players.
Toshiba paying to keep Universal.
Toshiba paying to get Paramount/Dreamworks.
Sony, Pioneer, Panasonic, Samsung. . . making a better product and a profit.

These are some of my favorite things.

I suspect a price drop in many of the Gen2 players.

P.S. I remember my Pop paid like $800.00 US for a VCR while in the mid to late 70s. Anyone care to figure out how much that is in today's dollar value? Toshiba's losing money is the only way they are staying in the market. Their business plan sucks and is an act of desperation.

[tron3]

If price comparisons is the best fodder they have, then it is of little substance. Just a bunch of little girls crying they don't have clothes like the other girls.

[bootman]

Originally Posted by CAB

I remember my Pop paid like $800.00 US for a VCR while in the mid to late 70s. Anyone care to figure out how much that is in today's dollar value?

It would about $2.5k

[BTBuck1]

the cheapest you could find a DVD player in 1999 (closer to 2000) was $299.
I picked up a pretty stripped down sony on sale (reg $349) then. No component out (just S-video and composite) no prog scan (Obviously).

And the thing would lose lips sync everytime the layer changed. I'd have to pause and press play again...

[JadedRaverLA]

Well, my first DVD player (Sony DVP-S7000) was just shy of $1,000 in early 1998. By the end of 1998, the player was available for around $600 if, and newer models were our for around $500 or so. I purchased my second DVD player (Pioneer DVL-919) in the summer of '99 for around $900. It was still fairly expensive as it was a Laserdisc/DVD combo unit.

If I remember right, the pricing for cheap to midrange DVD players from major manufacturers was:

End of 1997 -- $800-1000
End of 1998 -- $500-600
End of 1999 -- $300-400

Prices on BD are falling a bit faster than DVD players did, while HD DVD players.... well... there's no real way to figure out the cost of those, since the sales price seems to bare no resemblence to the cost of manufacturing.

[tron3]

Got my first GoVideo DVD / VHS player few days before Christmas 2002. I was working at Radio Shat at the time and got my 25% employee discount. Cost me about $150? Might have gotten the $30 mail-in rebate as well. Good player as it supports progressive scan and the rewind on the VHS was lightning fast. Didn't like the remote so much.

Sold it for $50 to a work friend after I bought my blu-ray player last month. The BD player replaced the other GoVideo DVD/VHS combo on my HDTV. Now that DVD / VHS player is in my room and I much happier with it.

Gotta love trickle down technology.

[bferr1]

Of course, HD DVD now has Onkyo and Integra, whose players are going to cost between $800 and $1100. HD DVD fans are pleased that they have such high-end companies and high-end offerings to choose from.

Um, can anyone spot the hypocrisy? Anyone?

[jdsanko]

Originally Posted by bferr1

Of course, HD DVD now has Onkyo and Integra, whose players are going to cost between $800 and $1100. HD DVD fans are pleased that they have such high-end companies and high-end offerings to choose from.

Um, can anyone spot the hypocrisy? Anyone?

I don't believe the price of the player is the CURRENT issue. Cheaper players are all the HD-DVD folks have to talk about besides yeilds and interactivity(what FUD will they come up with next). I don't believe the same folks being targeted for the $199 player are willing to pay $30 for a movie anyway. Most of these will be sold as second players to those who have already bought movies. Not a new group of movie buyers.

Futher, who cares about extras if the basic product does not include the highest possible quality video and some form of lossless audio. HD-DVD bandwidth and storage space just are not large enough no matter how they want to spin it and we are just barely into the product lifecycle. HD-DVD is a weak, shortsighted product that will eventually leave supporters with a library of movies with no working HD player to play them on. At least with BD, if HDM fails, the purchased BD collection will be viewable on the PS3 and PS4 for many years to come given Sony's 10 year product lifecycle strategy. I quess a $199 player is a good deal if you want to buy a half dozen or so to store in your closet as replacements over time.