Toto - Il piu comico spettacolo del mondo 3D Blu-ray (1953) [Region B Locked]

[vinnie97]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

I use an LG BP60NB10 external player and MakeMKV to rip the disc to my computer. MKVtoolnix to edit the MKV file and a Zidoo Z9X to playback the 3D MKV file with an external SRT subtitle, which also allows me to universally change subtitle depth.[/url]

Has anyone had success using this same playback method on the final Oppo Blu-ray player (UDP-203)?

[robtadrian]

[QUOTE=BleedOrange11;18692178]

I ordered Every Thing Will Be Fine from Seatownrecords on eBay almost a month ago, and they still haven't shipped it or responded to my message, so I have to recommend avoiding them.

Did you ever receive it?

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by robtadrian

Did you ever receive it?

No, they didn't actually have the product and couldn't get it because its out of print and eventually refunded me.

[petergee]

Did anyone manage to successfully add the subs that Mike made onto their Toto ISO file? I tried but couldn’t work out how to do it.

[T. Warren Scollan]

Is this 3D Blu-ray still available or is it now OOP? Having given up on waiting for someone to make an English friendly version, I've decided to make the purchase (if I can). What site should I go to for a purchase?

[jchung30]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

Is this 3D Blu-ray still available or is it now OOP? Having given up on waiting for someone to make an English friendly version, I've decided to make the purchase (if I can). What site should I go to for a purchase?

A few of us purchased it at dvdland.it:

https://www.dvdland.it/en/blu-ray/to...-mondo-blu-ray

[mar3o]

Is the out-of-phase issue with some of the shots on this disc something that is baked into the original camera negatives, or is it caused by a faulty remaster? If it's baked into the negatives (due to cameras being out of sync I'm guessing?), could it have been corrected during the remastering process? I'm guessing it can't be corrected if the 3D film Archive gets handed the same remaster at some point for a US release? I find those phasing shots really distracting. I've seen that happen on a handful of 3D discs.

[mar3o]

On another note, does anybody know what setting I can use on my LG TV to push the 3D window back closer to where it was originally intended for this disc? Somebody posted earlier in the thread how to do that with another TV brand, but it wasn't an LG. I'm pretty sure I remember my LG TV having the ability to do that too, but I'm unsure what numbers to use without distorting things.

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by mar3o

On another note, does anybody know what setting I can use on my LG TV to push the 3D window back closer to where it was originally intended for this disc? Somebody posted earlier in the thread how to do that with another TV brand, but it wasn't an LG. I'm pretty sure I remember my LG TV having the ability to do that too, but I'm unsure what numbers to use without distorting things.

There's a whole thread on this subject, try going there: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=282683

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by the13thman

There's a whole thread on this subject, try going there: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=282683

Big thanks for the link. That's what I was looking for.

It looks like LG uses a combination of two settings - depth and viewpoint. Standard setting is 10 depth 0 viewpoint.

For anybody that has an LG and owns this disc, does anybody know what numbers would be ideal to get closer to what was intended for this film? This film was pushed out of the screen to maximum effect so the idea would be to get it back into the screen somewhat without distortion.

That thread gets pretty technical. I normally wouldn't play with this setting but they really did affect the way this film is presented big time so I was hoping somebody has already figured this out for this particular film. I can play with the settings randomly but that doesn't mean I know how to get it where it should be.

[globalimages2]

Just adjust the "viewpoint" setting on your LG TV to a negative value, which "pushes back" the whole picture "into the screen" (moves the whole picture away from the viewer), and set it to a point where you think the original movie was supposed to be presented, which probably was "a little more into the screen" than the way set on the blu-ray transfer when it was done.

This "viewpoint" value (-10 to +10) may shift the left and right images more or less pixels in different TV models for all I know, so giving you a value may not be all that "correct" for your particular case. Find a scene where you think the intention of the creators was clear that some object in that scene was supposed to be at the same depth as the screen itself and adjust the viewpoint value until that object doesn't look "doubled/blurry/weird" without wearing the 3D glasses.

The downside to having this "viewpoint" setting to anything but 0 is that you lose a few pixels of the image on the sides, but not a problem at all for this film that being 1.37 has lotssss of black empty space to the sides of the image on a HD 1.78 screen.

So my guess? Set viewpoint to somewhere between -4 and -10 if you want a (probably) closer 3D experience to what the original authors intended, and enjoy the film. No big deal. Remember to set it back to 0 for any other films, though.

EDIT: the "depth" setting AFAIK and contrary to a lot of information out there, is NOT meant for anything related to watching 3D with the TV in true-3D mode with true-3D content. I assume it's for when the 2D->3D conversion mode is chosen. Regardless, the "depth" setting is de-activated/grayed out for me when I'm watching (true) 3D content and I've never even used the 2D to 3D conversion on my old LG at all, so not even sure what it does though I can very well imagine. But the only reasonable setting that should be available for watching 3D content is one that allows to shift horizontally the left and right images separately a bit for cases like this one exactly and it's exactly what most 3D TV and projectors have a setting for, which results in pushing the whole image a bit farther away or closer to the viewer, at the expense of likely "cutting off" pixels from sides of the image. On my LG TV, it's called "viewpoint", works fine and as expected. Shows up when in 3D mode and I press the "qmenu" (quick menu) button, under "3D mode conf"(iguration) submenu. My Benq projector also has a similar setting.

[the13thman]

For Epson projectors Bob recommended a -4 Depth setting, using the title credit as a reference point.

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Here is the third opening title. When properly aligned, the letters are supposed to start at the base of the screen and slowly come off-screen, like this:



However, because of the botched horizontal alignment, they now begin off-screen and come out even further.



This problem is consistent throughout the feature.

Thankfully, there is an easy fix - at least on the Epson 5040. Go into the 3-D Setup and set the 3D Depth setting to -4. That will get you pretty close to the intended stereoscopic image placement.

[globalimages2]

Just a quick note to clarify that the "viewpoint" setting in many LG TV's affects the same thing as the "depth" setting in EPSON projectors, and the "depth" setting on the LG TV's is just a whole different thing (how much "fake" parallax the 2D-to-3D conversion mode will generate).

There is no "standard" as what this setting is called, the one to "shift left-and-right views horizontally a little with respect to each other" or "how much" the value affects the result on each brand or for that matter on each particular model of device.

Just know that there is very likely a setting in your device that will allow you to reposition the whole picture a bit closer or farther away from you, and for this blu-ray edition, it's probably closer to the original material to have it set to a value that pushes everything somewhat more "into the screen", as that's most likely how it was in the original material and whoever did the blu-ray transfer just decided to do it differently and make "everything" stick "out of the screen" a bit more than the original.

[mar3o]

Big thanks for all the advice. That definitely helps clear up those two settings. I had no idea the "depth" setting was only for 2D>3D conversions. That makes it a lot easier for me to experiment.

It seems like a good target is to adjust for those opening titles, so when they first appear they start right at the screen without any added pop-out. That should set the level about right for viewing. I just have to remember to set it back afterwards.

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by Oboler

Maybe I’m a terrible human being, but I actually prefer the incorrect depth on this release! Not saying I wouldn’t prefer the film to be restored the way it was intended to be viewed, but you have to admit that the popout is incredible.

I'm with you on that 100%. Though I'd still buy a corrected version (if it had English subtitles).

[petergee]

Just came back to this one today and wondered if anyone managed to add any subtitles or English audio to this disc? I'm keen to try external subs via my Oppo player but unsure where to locate them. Thanks.

Bob - I assume you didn't get anywhere with trying to license this for a future 3DFA release?

[Robert Furmanek]

Not on my initial inquiry, but that was several years ago. At some point, when the dust settles, I’ll try again.

[BleedOrange11]

Originally Posted by petergee

Just came back to this one today and wondered if anyone managed to add any subtitles or English audio to this disc? I'm keen to try external subs via my Oppo player but unsure where to locate them. Thanks.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...8&postcount=92

[petergee]

Thank you very much - will try the .srt file (on a USB drive) with my Oppo player.

Thanks too to Mike for his great work on the subtitles!

[2ndvizio]

Originally Posted by 2ndvizio

That's where I just ordered mine a few days ago. That plus Toto 3d as well since I had to pay for shipping anyways. Doubt I will like Toto even if I can download english subtitles for it.

Thanks for the subtitles. Watched a minute of it (flat on a PC) and subtitles are perfect, movie is actually very interesting, funny.