I Stupidly Broke My Receiver and Need Advice - Blu-ray Forum

SlmShdy1 · 07-13-2009, 05:33 AM

Okay, so to start off, I have an Onkyo TX-SR705 and I bought it last May. Someday I might want to get myself a stand alone Blu-ray player, but for now I have the PS3. If I do get a stand alone one day, I'd rather use bitstream so I can finally see those logos come up on my receiver. There in lies the problem. Bitstreaming and the Onkyo x05 line don't mix too well with DTS-HD MA. So after researching and looking for the solution, I finally came upon the DSP updates last year. I tried updating the DSP's last year but had no luck. I had to turn my receiver off in the middle of it because it would not read an update. Nothing bad happened though like I had read in all of those warnings. My receiver still turned on and everything worked fine. Fast forward to tonight... I attempted to update the DSP's once again, but this time I set the CD output on my PS3 to 44.1 instead of 48kHz. Same thing happened. My receiver was not reading the update. So I figured, "Okay, it's my PS3 messing it up. I'll just try using my DVD player." I tried to cancel the update but my receiver wouldn't respond. I pressed the power button and nothing happened. After a little while it turned off by itself and now it won't come back on

. I've tried unplugging it and plugging it back in. It will turn itself on and make a click, but no functions work on the receiver and after about 5 seconds, it turns itself off.

Is there anything I can do? Maybe sell it on eBay to someone who can fix it? Try and go through Onkyo since it is only one year old? I believe I registered it when I got it last year. Can I make up a story saying,"it somehow stopped working on it's own," or will they be able to tell that I'm at fault? Is it going to cost an arm and a leg to pay for the repair out of my own pocket? I just don't know what to do at this point. This receiver was the center of my HT and now it's dead. Any advice from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

jdc115 · 07-13-2009, 05:59 AM

I would try to work through the shop you bought it first and then Onkyo second on trying to get it repaired under warranty. I am not sure if doing the udpates yourself voids the warranty or not but it may not be complicated to fix if they just need to roll back to the previous firmware.

You probably shouldn't bother to update the receiver unless there is a compelling reason to such as a bug that needs to be fixed or a new feature that is needed. Otherwise best to just leave them be when everything is working properly as you need.

Good luck

SlmShdy1 · 07-13-2009, 06:21 AM

I knew the risk when I got into it. Attempting to do the updates yourself does void warranty but how would they know? I know on some TV's they can track what you've done to it and if you attempted to change anything in the service menu.

There was a bug I was trying to fix, but it's not a problem yet. See, with Onkyos and Yamahas, certain movies with a DTS-HD MA track will produce a pop or a gunshot noise where there shouldn't be one. This problem only occurs if you decide to bitstream audio, though. PCM has no problem because it's already decoded. They released an update in Germany to fix the problem but there hasn't been a US release yet. If I ever got a player that bitstreams audio, it's definitely something I would want fixed.

CasualKiller · 07-13-2009, 07:23 AM

Ignore the last post, I found these on a US site but they may indeed be from Germany:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297

And this sucks too :

By downloading any files listed here You accept and declare explicitly, that You accept the responsibility for Your action.

SlmShdy1 · 07-13-2009, 10:10 AM

After reading through AVS, I went back to my receiver and plugged it back in hoping maybe it would fix itself. Still the same thing, though. It just shut itself down. So I went ahead and unplugged, plugged it back in, and then hit the power button. It turned off! And the red light came back on. I was freaking out. I hit the power button again, the receiver turned on and it said, "Clear," like it had reset itself. I'm back in business. I don't know what went wrong during the update.

After reading through that thread, I found a post dedicated to the 705 and all the updates available (DSP, HDMI, and main). I think I know what I did wrong. During the CD burning process, some options were checked that shouldn't have been. Either the audio was being altered or it wasn't getting finalized. Anyway, I attempted to do the update again with the new CD and this time it worked. Go figure.

Going through all of this made me wonder. Like I said in my post before, if you were to do something like this and it ends up screwing up your receiver, would the manufacturer know that you were at fault? Can they run a diagnostic to see which menus you've been messing with, especially the ones you shouldn't be touching? How else would they know?

solarrdadd · 07-19-2009, 04:20 AM

I hope this helps, I created this post because I had problems with my Onkyo and could not find real answers. I did get the firmware update and flashed my receiver and it worked fine. Here is a link to my post and I do hope it helps people out.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...54#post2117454

Best of luck to everyone!

07-13-2009, 05:33 AM	#1
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	I Stupidly Broke My Receiver and Need Advice Okay, so to start off, I have an Onkyo TX-SR705 and I bought it last May. Someday I might want to get myself a stand alone Blu-ray player, but for now I have the PS3. If I do get a stand alone one day, I'd rather use bitstream so I can finally see those logos come up on my receiver. There in lies the problem. Bitstreaming and the Onkyo x05 line don't mix too well with DTS-HD MA. So after researching and looking for the solution, I finally came upon the DSP updates last year. I tried updating the DSP's last year but had no luck. I had to turn my receiver off in the middle of it because it would not read an update. Nothing bad happened though like I had read in all of those warnings. My receiver still turned on and everything worked fine. Fast forward to tonight... I attempted to update the DSP's once again, but this time I set the CD output on my PS3 to 44.1 instead of 48kHz. Same thing happened. My receiver was not reading the update. So I figured, "Okay, it's my PS3 messing it up. I'll just try using my DVD player." I tried to cancel the update but my receiver wouldn't respond. I pressed the power button and nothing happened. After a little while it turned off by itself and now it won't come back on . I've tried unplugging it and plugging it back in. It will turn itself on and make a click, but no functions work on the receiver and after about 5 seconds, it turns itself off. Is there anything I can do? Maybe sell it on eBay to someone who can fix it? Try and go through Onkyo since it is only one year old? I believe I registered it when I got it last year. Can I make up a story saying,"it somehow stopped working on it's own," or will they be able to tell that I'm at fault? Is it going to cost an arm and a leg to pay for the repair out of my own pocket? I just don't know what to do at this point. This receiver was the center of my HT and now it's dead. Any advice from you guys would be greatly appreciated.

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07-13-2009, 05:59 AM	#2
jdc115 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Singapore Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:87	I would try to work through the shop you bought it first and then Onkyo second on trying to get it repaired under warranty. I am not sure if doing the udpates yourself voids the warranty or not but it may not be complicated to fix if they just need to roll back to the previous firmware. You probably shouldn't bother to update the receiver unless there is a compelling reason to such as a bug that needs to be fixed or a new feature that is needed. Otherwise best to just leave them be when everything is working properly as you need. Good luck

07-13-2009, 06:21 AM	#3
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	I knew the risk when I got into it. Attempting to do the updates yourself does void warranty but how would they know? I know on some TV's they can track what you've done to it and if you attempted to change anything in the service menu. There was a bug I was trying to fix, but it's not a problem yet. See, with Onkyos and Yamahas, certain movies with a DTS-HD MA track will produce a pop or a gunshot noise where there shouldn't be one. This problem only occurs if you decide to bitstream audio, though. PCM has no problem because it's already decoded. They released an update in Germany to fix the problem but there hasn't been a US release yet. If I ever got a player that bitstreams audio, it's definitely something I would want fixed.

07-13-2009, 07:23 AM	#4
CasualKiller Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Brooks Alberta Blu-ray collection:54 Trading Score:15	Ignore the last post, I found these on a US site but they may indeed be from Germany: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297 And this sucks too : By downloading any files listed here You accept and declare explicitly, that You accept the responsibility for Your action.

07-13-2009, 10:10 AM	#5
SlmShdy1 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Honolulu, HI PlayStation® PSN: SlmShdy1 Home Theater Gallery:39 Blu-ray collection:292	After reading through AVS, I went back to my receiver and plugged it back in hoping maybe it would fix itself. Still the same thing, though. It just shut itself down. So I went ahead and unplugged, plugged it back in, and then hit the power button. It turned off! And the red light came back on. I was freaking out. I hit the power button again, the receiver turned on and it said, "Clear," like it had reset itself. I'm back in business. I don't know what went wrong during the update. After reading through that thread, I found a post dedicated to the 705 and all the updates available (DSP, HDMI, and main). I think I know what I did wrong. During the CD burning process, some options were checked that shouldn't have been. Either the audio was being altered or it wasn't getting finalized. Anyway, I attempted to do the update again with the new CD and this time it worked. Go figure. Going through all of this made me wonder. Like I said in my post before, if you were to do something like this and it ends up screwing up your receiver, would the manufacturer know that you were at fault? Can they run a diagnostic to see which menus you've been messing with, especially the ones you shouldn't be touching? How else would they know?

07-19-2009, 04:20 AM	#6
solarrdadd Blu-ray Prince Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:255 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:316	I hope this helps, I created this post because I had problems with my Onkyo and could not find real answers. I did get the firmware update and flashed my receiver and it worked fine. Here is a link to my post and I do hope it helps people out. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...54#post2117454 Best of luck to everyone!

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