Why does Seinfeld on TBSHD look great in widescreen, while Friends looks like crap? - Blu-ray Forum

Chordata · 07-17-2009, 01:31 PM

Maybe this is better suited for a display subforum, I don't know.

Point is, Seinfeld is an older show than Friends, but on TBSHD (for example), it's full widescreen and looks great - no distortion, pulling, etc.

Then Friends is on, and it's distorted, pulled, etc.

Who are the geniuses behind this?

Mike53421 · 07-17-2009, 01:33 PM

Because Seinfeld is good and Friends is not.

threefiftyrocket · 07-17-2009, 01:42 PM

because friends is the full widescreen display stretched to fit the 16:9 screen... Seinfeld is cropped at the top and bottom to "fit" the widescreen display. Next time its on, switch back and forth from SD to HD and you will see what I'm talkin bout... I checked this one out myself

Mr_Bester · 07-17-2009, 01:43 PM

Seinfeld and the Office were mastered to HD, Friends wasn't.

Blu-Benny · 07-17-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike53421

Because Friends is good and Seinfeld is not.

here, i fixed u're mistake!!!

Teabaggins · 07-17-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike53421

Because Seinfeld is good and Friends is not.

Pelican170 · 07-17-2009, 01:50 PM

I think TBSHD tends to look just OK most of the time...

Mr. J · 07-17-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

here, i fixed u're mistake!!!

Actually he had it right! You're the one mistaken

KubrickFan · 07-17-2009, 02:56 PM

Seinfeld was remastered using the film they shot on. That was used for the dvds, and also for the HD broadcasts. Friends wasn't remastered, so they're still the same old masters.

uziel5000 · 07-17-2009, 03:02 PM

What's all the hate on Friends??!! I love that show! Seinfeld as well. My wife would kick all your butts if she saw you guys writing that. lol

Mike53421 · 07-17-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by uziel5000

What's all the hate on Friends??!! I love that show! Seinfeld as well. My wife would kick all your butts if she saw you guys writing that. lol

Once everybody kinda started dating everybody it became a cluster****. I enjoyed the first few seasons but, ducked out.

Coincidently the everyone dating everyone thing is hurting my support of The Office. Primarily a year ago when it was Michael/Jan, Jim/Pam, Andy/Angela/Dwight, it was smelling like deja vu.

Teabaggins · 07-17-2009, 03:24 PM

Friends is the most overrated show of all time

Mr. J · 07-17-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Teabaggins

Friends is the most overrated show of all time

I completely agree!!

chemokidd · 07-17-2009, 03:26 PM

lol Friends is getting hated on haha but Seinfeld is wayyy better in my opinion

STARSCREAM · 07-17-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike53421

Because Seinfeld is good and Friends is not.

Seinfeld was a great, great show. I still watch it all the time.

Pelican170 · 07-17-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by uziel5000

What's all the hate on Friends??!! I love that show! Seinfeld as well. My wife would kick all your butts if she saw you guys writing that. lol

Friends is for the chicks man...

Deadset · 07-17-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Friends is for the chicks man...

yep, wife watches friends, I catch a few on TBS HD when she has it turned there,

Seinfeld is the top comedy show of the 90's, maybe even of the 00's. I don't know if anything has come close. As much as I like the office, I still like Seinfeld better.

steve_dave · 07-17-2009, 04:22 PM

If TBS HD and TNT HD are not given proper true 16x9 masters, they will vertically stretch 4x3 material to fill the 16x9 screen. In fact, every Turner cable network does this with Cartoon Network HD being the worst out of the group.

Seinfeld was recently remastered and reframed at true 16x9. The sides of the frame had extra picture information which meant they could crop the top and bottom without completely ruining the composition so Sony went ahead and remastered every episode this way.

Friends, Home Improvement, Family Guy, Just Shoot Me, and a lot of movies have been vertically stretched to fill the screen. 2 months ago, TBS HD ended the practice of airing commercials veritically stretched. When a 4x3 commerical airs, black bars watermarked TBS HD appear on the sides.

Kevin Smith's Jersey Girl was broadcast as 4x3 stretched and looked pretty bad but TBS HD got a new true 16x9 version of Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion which looked great.

As for Cartoon Network...the only things they have ever aired true 16x9 are Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Star Wars; The Clone Wars. However, these are first run airings only. Meaning, you get one chance to see them in true 16x9...after that its 4x3 streched to fit 16x9. And when the kids are out of the pool and Adult Swim begins, forget any hope of true 16x9. The Venture Brothers, Metalacoplyse, Squidbillies, Aqua Teen Hunger Force are all produced in HD, aired with black bars on the SD channel, [B]and[/B} are broadcast vertically streteched to fill 16x9 with the black bars intact!. I don't even watch the Cartoon Network HD feed, I just sitck with the SD feed.

Chordata · 07-17-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Friends is for the chicks man...

It's because of the chicks that I watched it. Couldn't disagree more.

Pelican170 · 07-17-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

It's because of the chicks that I watched it. Couldn't disagree more.

Yea they are hot, but i cant get myself to watch that crap just to check out the girls. plenty of eye candy on tv these days..

07-17-2009, 01:31 PM	#1
Chordata Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Home of N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Why does Seinfeld on TBSHD look great in widescreen, while Friends looks like crap? Maybe this is better suited for a display subforum, I don't know. Point is, Seinfeld is an older show than Friends, but on TBSHD (for example), it's full widescreen and looks great - no distortion, pulling, etc. Then Friends is on, and it's distorted, pulled, etc. Who are the geniuses behind this?

07-17-2009, 03:26 PM	#14
chemokidd Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Nashville, TN Home Theater Gallery:30 Blu-ray collection:108 Blu-ray reviews:8	lol Friends is getting hated on haha but Seinfeld is wayyy better in my opinion Last edited by chemokidd; 07-17-2009 at 04:11 PM.

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07-17-2009, 01:33 PM	#2
Mike53421 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Mississauga, ON Blu-ray collection:40	Because Seinfeld is good and Friends is not.

07-17-2009, 01:42 PM	#3
threefiftyrocket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Carmel, IN Blu-ray collection:478 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	because friends is the full widescreen display stretched to fit the 16:9 screen... Seinfeld is cropped at the top and bottom to "fit" the widescreen display. Next time its on, switch back and forth from SD to HD and you will see what I'm talkin bout... I checked this one out myself

07-17-2009, 01:43 PM	#4
Mr_Bester Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:83	Seinfeld and the Office were mastered to HD, Friends wasn't.

07-17-2009, 01:50 PM	#7
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:129 Blu-ray collection:737 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	I think TBSHD tends to look just OK most of the time...

07-17-2009, 02:56 PM	#9
KubrickFan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Blu-ray collection:319	Seinfeld was remastered using the film they shot on. That was used for the dvds, and also for the HD broadcasts. Friends wasn't remastered, so they're still the same old masters.

07-17-2009, 03:02 PM	#10
uziel5000 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Vega Alta, Puerto Rico Blu-ray collection:103	What's all the hate on Friends??!! I love that show! Seinfeld as well. My wife would kick all your butts if she saw you guys writing that. lol

07-17-2009, 03:24 PM	#12
Teabaggins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2008	Friends is the most overrated show of all time

07-17-2009, 04:22 PM	#18
steve_dave Blu-ray Duke Member since:Nov 2008 Trading Score:21	If TBS HD and TNT HD are not given proper true 16x9 masters, they will vertically stretch 4x3 material to fill the 16x9 screen. In fact, every Turner cable network does this with Cartoon Network HD being the worst out of the group. Seinfeld was recently remastered and reframed at true 16x9. The sides of the frame had extra picture information which meant they could crop the top and bottom without completely ruining the composition so Sony went ahead and remastered every episode this way. Friends, Home Improvement, Family Guy, Just Shoot Me, and a lot of movies have been vertically stretched to fill the screen. 2 months ago, TBS HD ended the practice of airing commercials veritically stretched. When a 4x3 commerical airs, black bars watermarked TBS HD appear on the sides. Kevin Smith's Jersey Girl was broadcast as 4x3 stretched and looked pretty bad but TBS HD got a new true 16x9 version of Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion which looked great. As for Cartoon Network...the only things they have ever aired true 16x9 are Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Star Wars; The Clone Wars. However, these are first run airings only. Meaning, you get one chance to see them in true 16x9...after that its 4x3 streched to fit 16x9. And when the kids are out of the pool and Adult Swim begins, forget any hope of true 16x9. The Venture Brothers, Metalacoplyse, Squidbillies, Aqua Teen Hunger Force are all produced in HD, aired with black bars on the SD channel, [B]and[/B} are broadcast vertically streteched to fill 16x9 with the black bars intact!. I don't even watch the Cartoon Network HD feed, I just sitck with the SD feed.

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