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Old 06-10-2023, 02:24 AM   #61
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Definitely see it in 3D.

Starts off mild from the opening logos, but it got better from the DB logo. The first scene is high medium, to strong with
[Show spoiler]Unicron's introduction
.The rest of the movie has a fair balance of medium, high medium and some strong depth. Pop-outs include maybe some embers coming close to edging the screen.
That sounds hopeful, thanks Creed. Glad you liked the 3D.

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Saw this in Imax 3D.

What was a little strange was that before the opening credits, they had a disclaimer to say that the film had not been specially formatted for Imax presentation. I've never seen anything like that before. It was like Imax were washing their hands of it.

In spite of this, it really was an excellent 3D presentation, with multiple pop-outs, and a strong sense of volume and depth even in quiet scenes. It also made excellent use of the Imax sound system which felt truly immense, and was particularly useful in conveying the planetary scale of Unicron.

I thought it had one of the most promising setups of any of these films. The human characters are well integrated into the storyline. They also seemed to have more robot characters than previous movies, but they all had distinct designs which avoided confusion.

I don't know if it's a good or a bad film or what kind of critical reaction it's getting. I thought it started strong and ended strong, but in the middle it felt like something wasn't quite clicking. Some of the plot developments were perhaps a bit convenient, a lot was far-fetched. I'm not convinced that should be considered a fatal flaw in a film of this nature. On the whole I found it a lot better than expected, if a mixed bag. It's more of a B-movie than previous entries in the series. No star actors or director, no ILM. I don't think they even went with one of the established 3D conversion houses. The visual effects did the job, but suffered at times. The cargo plane transformer might be the single worst case of unconvincing CGI in the series.

The cinema I saw it in had some really young and inexperienced staff on duty, and I had to correct the girl who'd given me a pair of Real D glasses, instead of the linear polarized Imax glasses required. Luckily I got to the screen before they'd dimmed the lights, because the people sitting next to me had also been given the wrong glasses. Before the screening started I must've sent somewhere between 10 and 20 people down to get their glasses changed. I hate doing this, I'm not that sort of outgoing person to go up to strangers like that. Not the first time it's happened either. Considering the cost of Imax tickets, that's just not good enough. It would really ruin the screening, and that doesn't help the case for 3D either.

But the 3D was definitely worth it. There was a nicely executed popout when one of the trucks fired a missile, and there was an effective-in-3D scene where Optimus Prime picks up the main human protagonist. Prime looked believably massive. Definitely no miniaturisation effect there. I had a visceral reaction in another scene when one of the antagonist bots swung a ball on a chain weapon towards the screen. There may have been a minor conversion error in one scene where light reflections on a Porshe ended up looking like scrapes but it didn't really matter. 3D was a major enhancement to the film in every way. I haven't seen the other films in years so it's hard to judge, but I felt it might be some of the best 3D of the series. It's 3D with impact.
Thanks for the helpful review, Interdimensional. That was nice of you to warn those people who were given the wrong types of 3D Glasses to exchange them for the Imax type 3D glasses. That happened to me one time too and I had to exchange it. The guy gave me Real D, and I thought they knew what they were doing but they didn't. You saved those people from disappointment, wondering why the 3D wouldn't be working.

Glad to hear the 3D delivers from the sound of it. Thanks.

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According to Cinemablend's review, it was done by DNeg. (And their review was a rare 35/35: I'm not generally a fan of their 3D reviews, particularly their peculiar scoring system, but they certainly make it sound like a 3D classic, for whatever that's worth.)
Cool, thanks. DNeg is formerly known as Prime Focus. I read that DNeg acquired Prime Focus. Prime Focus is responsible for the medium to strong 3D of the live-action Turtles Films, which are great conversions IMO.
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PFT, a subsidiary of DNEG’s parent company, Prime Focus Ltd., is based in Burbank and has offices across North America, the U.K. and India with 1,700 employees, including about 300 software engineers. After the deal, DNEG’s global headcount will grow to more than 11,500 across North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...x-1235371014/#!
Even the other big Conversion studio, Stereo D, is now known as SDFX Studios, to let filmmakers/producers probably know they have expanded beyond mostly 3D conversions and into special effects more often. Plus with the recent slow down of movie conversions since 2019 I'd say.
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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
And you honestly don’t think you revealed your “politics” with that annoying rant?

This is the TF RofB 3D thread…please refrain from doing this again…

Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:26 AM   #63
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Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
Sorry to dash those hopes but pre-orders are already live and there's no 3D Blu-ray.
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Old 06-10-2023, 05:55 PM   #64
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And you honestly don’t think you revealed your “politics” with that annoying rant?

This is the TF RofB 3D thread…please refrain from doing this again…

Meanwhile, I’m hopeful that Avatar 2’s 3D bluray sales will have a positive impact on the chances of a 3d blu release of this….
I’m glad some part of your withered brain understands the point I was making
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Old 06-10-2023, 10:21 PM   #65
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I’m glad some part of your withered brain understands the point I was making
“Withered brain”…? You must enjoy getting banned…
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Old 06-10-2023, 10:25 PM   #66
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Sorry to dash those hopes but pre-orders are already live and there's no 3D Blu-ray.
Yes, but my point was that the Avatar 2 3d Blu-ray sales might potentially cause them to reconsider…clearly the A2 3d sales have yet to be tabulated so not sure it could influence their decision just yet….yes, it’s a long shot—I know…
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Considering I was recently banned for ‘politics’ (as in calling out someone else for threadcrapping with their politics) I’d love it if that rule was actually enforced across the board. It seems like (as I’ve seen complained about on Reddit by younger home media enthusiasts that don’t even bother with this site) this site leans older and a lot of the mods lean conservative so the actual ‘politics’ that are not allowed to be discussed is anything not conservative. People are free to thread crap all day long dropping in brain dead political buzzwords like ‘woke’, lowering the IQ of myriad threads, and they’ll never see even a glint of the banhammer. I’m over it. This is a hobby site and I’d love to not have to be faced dead on with the effects of propaganda and the vast dumbing down of society when I try and discuss my hobbies, hobbies being an escapism from that sort of nonsense for most people.

Regardless of where your political affiliations lie, I’m sure most people with a brain can agree it’s much better to not have politics constantly brought up, especially as a criticism for a movie, in a forum for stereoscopic movies. Imagine yelling ‘hurrrr tHiS iS wOkE’ in the middle of a cinema screening. Doing it here is basically just as obnoxious and cringeworthy. Nobody wants to hear your garbage political takes. We’re here for the movies.
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Old 06-11-2023, 05:19 AM   #68
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I’m glad some part of your withered brain understands the point I was making
They really do just crawl out of the woodwork. Old Freakydrawers is an instant candidate for the Ignore button.

I’m disheartened by the fact that this isn’t coming out on 3D Blu, but not remotely surprised. Hopefully it will, oh, I don’t know, maybe end up on some sort of Russian streaming site someday, and maybe some kind wonderful soul will take it upon their talented selves to rescue it…
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Quick 3D Transformers Rise of the Beasts 3D Review:
Cinemark: Great contrast, brightness, 3D projection, mid row seat, just left of center. Great view, although it was one of the smaller theaters with a screen that only took up 50% of my view instead of 60% or more.

3D Layers: 6/10. Mostly a range of mild to low medium 3D layering, with some medium layers and few rare strong 3D shots. I took my glasses off to make sure the 3D was working and the screen often looked like a 2D movie that could many times be watched without 3D glasses, regarding the generally lite conversion work here. They probably had a smaller budget to convert the 3D with.
3D Pop Outs: A few pop outs, like when a character aims their gun out of the screen, and then some rubble flying, and some fire embers.
3D Framing: Pretty good framing for the 3D shots. No big issues IMO.
Favorite 3D shot: I think when Optimus Prime aimed his gun cannon at the screen to the right, the barrel sticking slightly out of the screen.
3D Summary: 6/10. I kept waiting to be "wow, that's strong 3D" but after a few initial opening outer space shots, the strong 3D vanished for most of the film, and instead, I noticed lots of underwhelming mild to low medium 3D shots, but thankfully some medium 3D shots in there too that made it slightly better. Just not enough medium or strong 3D to give it a better score in my view. This pales in comparison to other strong 3D conversion like Avengers Infinity War as a shining example of mostly strong 3D.

3D Rank IMO:
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D
Transformers: Last Knight 3D
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 3D




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I saw this today and was disappointed with the 3D. Perhaps since I didn't see it on an Imax screen. Very few images popped and there wasn't much depth in almost any of the scenes.

The movie itself delivered with the effects. I would have enjoyed it more had there not been any people in it. For those that leave as soon as the credits start, stick around as there is a good cutscene.
Russweiss1, I feel the same way actually after seeing this at Cinemark, which is an awesome theater for 3D. The sound was excellent in the movie, with heavy bass, but the 3D underwhelming.
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Seems like mixed thoughts on the 3D. There have been times when I felt the 3D was very good in a film when others thought it was very bad.
Will just have to see how it goes for myself tomorrow.

Glad I get to check it out in IMAX 3D.
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Quick 3D Transformers Rise of the Beasts 3D Review:
Cinemark: Great contrast, brightness, 3D projection, mid row seat, just left of center. Great view, although it was one of the smaller theaters with a screen that only took up 50% of my view instead of 60% or more.

3D Layers: 6/10. Mostly a range of mild to low medium 3D layering, with some medium layers and few rare strong 3D shots. I took my glasses off to make sure the 3D was working and the screen often looked like a 2D movie that could many times be watched without 3D glasses, regarding the generally lite conversion work here. They probably had a smaller budget to convert the 3D with.
3D Pop Outs: A few pop outs, like when a character aims their gun out of the screen, and then some rubble flying, and some fire embers.
3D Framing: Pretty good framing for the 3D shots. No big issues IMO.
Favorite 3D shot: I think when Optimus Prime aimed his gun cannon at the screen to the right, the barrel sticking slightly out of the screen.
3D Summary: 6/10. I kept waiting to be "wow, that's strong 3D" but after a few initial opening outer space shots, the strong 3D vanished for most of the film, and instead, I noticed lots of underwhelming mild to low medium 3D shots, but thankfully some medium 3D shots in there too that made it slightly better. Just not enough medium or strong 3D to give it a better score in my view. This pales in comparison to other strong 3D conversion like Avengers Infinity War as a shining example of mostly strong 3D.

3D Rank IMO:
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D
Transformers: Last Knight 3D
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 3D






Russweiss1, I feel the same way actually after seeing this at Cinemark, which is an awesome theater for 3D. The sound was excellent in the movie, with heavy bass, but the 3D underwhelming.
Where do you rank Bumblebee in that list?
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Where do you rank Bumblebee in that list?
Good question. I never had a good chance to see Bumble 3D in theaters. I did eventually see the film, but sadly no blu ray 3D. I heard it has great 3D though. Where would you rank Bumblebee 3D?
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Caught this in IMAX 3D yesterday. The stereo is the least of the 5 3D Transformers films, but it's still worthwhile. The transformers themselves still have great volume and depth; you can see separation from the transparent surface of their eyes to the chassis underneath. Action scenes are legible and have some fun long takes. Anything with Unicron brings the heat. The standout sequence is when Unicorn releases spherical drones at the Earth; there's hundreds of them and they all pop off the screen.

The editing isn't very 3D-friendly. Anything that isn't a long take is too quickly cut for comfort. There’s a top-down descending shot of a circular stairwell, similar to Nurse 3D and Sadako 3D 2. That shot is among the best stereo in those films, but in ROTB the depth is much milder and the shot only lasts for 2 seconds. The film overall is blandly shot, without much visual style. It's better than the chaotic noise of Michael Bay, but pales next to the animation-informed verve that Travis Knight brought to Bumblebee.

For me this averages out to be almost as good as Guardians 3, but for different reasons. Guardians 3 is shot for 3D, but is over-restrained and lacks wow moments. Rise of the Beasts doesn't have much style in 3D or 2D, but its wow moments are decent enough, with more pop than GOTG 3.

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Definitely see it in 3D.

Starts off mild from the opening logos, but it got better from the DB logo. The first scene is high medium, to strong with
[Show spoiler]Unicron's introduction
.The rest of the movie has a fair balance of medium, high medium and some strong depth. Pop-outs include maybe some embers coming close to edging the screen.
I just got home from seeing it. And I can say this was pretty much my experience as well. That opening with
[Show spoiler]Unicron really looked great in 3D and had me pumped. I'm pretty sure I kept hearing his theme from the Animated movie playing subtly.
. Strongest depth moments were at the start of the film and the ending sequences. Some nice pop out moments with embers and clouds happening throughout.

Overall I liked Bumblebee more, but this one was fun. Still a lot of room for improvement.
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I thought the 3D is this was pretty weak. Nothing compared to Bumblebee. I also thought this was an extremely poor movie. The story is nonsense, the acting is terrible, and even Optimus Prime was extremely annoying.

This wasn't the worst Transformers movie but it's one of them.
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3D was Fine. Pretty typical conversion. There are technically some pop-outs but none with real wow factor. Facial sculpting was sloppy in places and there were some typical errors on background elements or the edges of moving objects.

Didn't care for the movie at all. Bumblebee was genuinely good, and for all their problems, the Michael Bay films at least had visual flair and impactful, memorable action set-pieces. This movie has neither. Just bland, ultra-generic CGI sludge that's exactly like ten million other movies from the past decade. Feels like a made-by-committee financial obligation instead of a movie anyone cared about making.
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Just got back after watching this in 3D and it was just good, nothing more than that, and it added to the experience, but it pales in comparison to Michael Bay's native 3D. I'd say it was mostly mild to medium 3D with the 3D being more evident in close-up shots and action sequences, and some pop-outs when necessary such as the transformers' gun barrels up close to the camera. I honestly miss Michael Bay's visual style (not the choppy editing though) and native 3D extravaganza but director Steven Caple Jr. did a good job nonetheless.

As for the film, it's definitely better than The Last Knight, and this film was written by 5 screenwriters while TLK had 4. I kinda like how the human characters are done here although they are underdeveloped like they always are in these films, and the Transformers themselves are majestic as always. IMO the third act is worth every single penny spent, and the film is a fun, satisfying watch overall. Apparently there's a sequel to this film coming up and the same director is in talks to helm it, so I'm looking forward to seeing how that goes.
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I caught a second screening, this time in 4DX.

To discuss the 4DX experience with this movie, I'd say it was worthwhile, but I've seen the format put to better use. I saw The Little Mermaid a week or two previous, and what they did there was a better fit.

As might be expected, there are a lot of fight sequences in this one, so you get shoved around quite a bit. It's more of a rough ride. They used the water spray effect at one point where a character is being pushed into a sort of fiery lava. I found that a bit incongruous, because you're feeling this pleasant cool spray when the character would feel more of a burning/stinging sensation. Strangely they didn't use the water effect when the gorilla robot slams down in the river in front of them. If ever there was a place to use it, that was it. They did use that effect when a decrepit elderly transformer coughed up a bunch of scrap metal, which was gross. I could've done without that.

Battlefire sequences made heavy use of air shots to simulate shots fired. You feel these puffs of air on the back of your neck and head. Scent effects were used in the jungle sequence, but not earlier on when a character was cooking breakfast.

Thankfully they didn't overuse effects I've considered detrimental in the past, such as heavy wind and 'lightning'.

Somehow the 3D didn't impress me quite as much, but all the popouts I'd remembered were still there. When I was booking the tickets, I realised their Imax screen was already dropping 3D screenings, and it was the last day. So with a spare pare of Imax glasses, I snuck in midway through after the 4DX show finished to take a final look. It wasn't my intention to stay for the whole show, but the 3D was so strong, I was entranced with it.

I stand by my earlier assessment that this is a top-tier presentation where 3D is concerned. I don't know what the secret sauce is that makes Imax that much more effective, but it really is night and day. I noticed all kinds of subtleties I hadn't before. Looking down the staircase, looking off the balcony, scanning from right to left from the shoulders of a large foreground bot looking down to a human at ground level. Always a strong sense of scale and space.

I've generally been more of a videophile than an audiophile, but the sound of this in Imax really blew me away all over again. I can't remember the last time I was more impressed by sound alone. It never felt harsh or uncomfortably loud, but was absolutely earth-shattering, with insane sense of depth and scale and directionality. I could never hope to match that at home.

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3D Rank IMO:
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D
Transformers: Last Knight 3D
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 3D
Having watched them years apart, it's hard to be objective, but my ranking (purely in terms of 3D) would be

Transformers: Last Knight 3D (seriously, look at the popouts in the junkyard sequence)
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D (In most respects I find this about on par with Last Knight)
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D (impressed at the time, less so on last rewatch)
Transformers: Bumblebee 3D

Although I was unable to avail of Imax 3D screenings for Bumblebee, and saw it in Real D and 4DX, so that may have played a factor. I remember the Cybertron sequence being highly impressive, and everything else being very competent, if mostly unexceptional. I didn't find Bumblebee's 3D lacking, but as a conversion, Rise of the Beasts' final battle sequence simply gives more bang for buck and wow factor, while as a film in most other respects Bumblebee is generally head and shoulders above the others.

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The transformers themselves still have great volume and depth; you can see separation from the transparent surface of their eyes to the chassis underneath. Action scenes are legible and have some fun long takes. Anything with Unicron brings the heat. The standout sequence is when Unicorn releases spherical drones at the Earth; there's hundreds of them and they all pop off the screen.

The editing isn't very 3D-friendly. Anything that isn't a long take is too quickly cut for comfort. The film overall is blandly shot, without much visual style. It's better than the chaotic noise of Michael Bay, but pales next to the animation-informed verve that Travis Knight brought to Bumblebee.
Your point about seeing levels of separation through the transformer characters is well observed. On the Imax screen I was struck by the sense of volume and intricacy to the overlapping mechanics of these characters, a great example of the dimensionality 3D can bring. The film seemed to have more shots where you would notice this than other films in the series. The human storyline here is minimal compared to previous films, so perhaps that was why.

I also agree about the cinematography being somewhat lacking but I didn't find the editing noticeably worse than I've come to expect. When I got home I put on The Last Knight, and found the opposite. The cinematography is stunning, but editing is choppy as hell. I think the idea was to give a sense of spontaneity and unpredictability to it, but it really hurts the 3D. There are some incredible shots thrown in there and you can't really process them because the convergence from shot to shot is all over the place. It really takes them down a notch in my assessment. Most Michael Bay films are edited like this, whatever the reason.
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[Show spoiler]I caught a second screening, this time in 4DX.

To discuss the 4DX experience with this movie, I'd say it was worthwhile, but I've seen the format put to better use. I saw The Little Mermaid a week or two previous, and what they did there was a better fit.

As might be expected, there are a lot of fight sequences in this one, so you get shoved around quite a bit. It's more of a rough ride. They used the water spray effect at one point where a character is being pushed into a sort of fiery lava. I found that a bit incongruous, because you're feeling this pleasant cool spray when the character would feel more of a burning/stinging sensation. Strangely they didn't use the water effect when the gorilla robot slams down in the river in front of them. If ever there was a place to use it, that was it. They did use that effect when a decrepit elderly transformer coughed up a bunch of scrap metal, which was gross. I could've done without that.

Battlefire sequences made heavy use of air shots to simulate shots fired. You feel these puffs of air on the back of your neck and head. Scent effects were used in the jungle sequence, but not earlier on when a character was cooking breakfast.

Thankfully they didn't overuse effects I've considered detrimental in the past, such as heavy wind and 'lightning'.

Somehow the 3D didn't impress me quite as much, but all the popouts I'd remembered were still there. When I was booking the tickets, I realised their Imax screen was already dropping 3D screenings, and it was the last day. So with a spare pare of Imax glasses, I snuck in midway through after the 4DX show finished to take a final look. It wasn't my intention to stay for the whole show, but the 3D was so strong, I was entranced with it.

I stand by my earlier assessment that this is a top-tier presentation where 3D is concerned. I don't know what the secret sauce is that makes Imax that much more effective, but it really is night and day. I noticed all kinds of subtleties I hadn't before. Looking down the staircase, looking off the balcony, scanning from right to left from the shoulders of a large foreground bot looking down to a human at ground level. Always a strong sense of scale and space.

I've generally been more of a videophile than an audiophile, but the sound of this in Imax really blew me away all over again. I can't remember the last time I was more impressed by sound alone. It never felt harsh or uncomfortably loud, but was absolutely earth-shattering, with insane sense of depth and scale and directionality. I could never hope to match that at home.



Having watched them years apart, it's hard to be objective, but my ranking (purely in terms of 3D) would be

Transformers: Last Knight 3D (seriously, look at the popouts in the junkyard sequence)
Transformers: Age of Extinction 3D (In most respects I find this about on par with Last Knight)
Transformers: Rise of the Beasts 3D
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 3D (impressed at the time, less so on last rewatch)
Transformers: Bumblebee 3D

Although I was unable to avail of Imax 3D screenings for Bumblebee, and saw it in Real D and 4DX, so that may have played a factor. I remember the Cybertron sequence being highly impressive, and everything else being very competent, if mostly unexceptional. I didn't find Bumblebee's 3D lacking, but as a conversion, Rise of the Beasts' final battle sequence simply gives more bang for buck and wow factor, while as a film in most other respects Bumblebee is generally head and shoulders above the others.



Your point about seeing levels of separation through the transformer characters is well observed. On the Imax screen I was struck by the sense of volume and intricacy to the overlapping mechanics of these characters, a great example of the dimensionality 3D can bring. The film seemed to have more shots where you would notice this than other films in the series. The human storyline here is minimal compared to previous films, so perhaps that was why.

I also agree about the cinematography being somewhat lacking but I didn't find the editing noticeably worse than I've come to expect. When I got home I put on The Last Knight, and found the opposite. The cinematography is stunning, but editing is choppy as hell. I think the idea was to give a sense of spontaneity and unpredictability to it, but it really hurts the 3D. There are some incredible shots thrown in there and you can't really process them because the convergence from shot to shot is all over the place. It really takes them down a notch in my assessment. Most Michael Bay films are edited like this, whatever the reason.
I was going to watch this in 3D xvision with atmos sound (the screen by the photos seems to be tiny) and comfy large chairs, but after your reviews I'm going to watch it in 3D IMAX. It will be more miles/Km and ticket price but I preffer the IMAX big screen.

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Shame we're not getting a 3D Blu-Ray for this...I saw it on Saturday in 3D and enjoyed it, found the 3D to be good. Quite liked the film, very tempted to go see it again before all the 3D showtimes are gone.
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