Friday the 13th (2009) - UK release vs US release - Blu-ray Forum

Funktion · 08-04-2009, 09:14 PM

The recent remake of Friday the 13th was released on BD by Warner Bros. in the United States, but Paramount is handling it's release in Europe.
While the US release includes 2 cuts of the film, only the longer cut is mentioned on the press release for Paramount's disc.

Some stores are already shipping the UK release of the film, and I was wondering if anyone already checked it out, and could confirm:
-if the theatrical cut is also included on the disc?
-if there are any improvements regarding the US disc? The Region A Blu-Ray had 2 cuts of the film on a single disc, and they were apparently different encodes (not branching). If the UK disc only includes one of the cuts, they either improved the bitrate a bit, or maybe they simply turned it into a single layer disc (hopefully that's not the case)?

Additionally, does anyone know if the differences between the 2 cuts are mere extensions to existing scenes (making the theatrical cut's inclusion more or less redundant), or do these cuts feature different takes/alternate scenes/...?

demoni · 08-08-2009, 02:31 PM

Buy the US release. Not only do you get both cuts of the movie, you also support Warner Bros., who ended the HD format war.

Funktion · 08-10-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymanwitt

run time 1hr 45mins (1 min shorter than u.s release )

crazymanwitt, were did you get those specs from? I seriously doubt the UK release is 1 minute shorter than the US release.

I was curious about the UK edition because Paramount's releases are usually better (PQ wise) than Warner's (see the different releases of Zodiac, and even the recent Watchmen BDs, although unfortunately Paramount opted to release the theatrical cut instead of the director's cut, and the US release).

Daunty · 08-11-2009, 04:53 AM

Does the UK BR have Dutch Subs? Thx in advance.

demoni · 08-11-2009, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funktion

crazymanwitt, were did you get those specs from? I seriously doubt the UK release is 1 minute shorter than the US release.

Remember that NTSC running time differs from PAL running time. PAL runs a bit faster, so you can't really compare running times just like that.

richieb1971 · 08-11-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazymanwitt

yeah i forgot about that, i was just looking over a few sites and they all said the same run time so i put it down.

Geez, where have you guys been?

If the movie is 1080p/24 (Which this movie is) then the speed of the movie is the same globally. NTSC and PAL arguments don't exist anymore. In the realm of HD there is no PAL/NTSC unless your talking about extra content that is shown in NTSC or PAL.

24 frames a second is 24 frames a second.

demoni · 08-11-2009, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richieb1971

Geez, where have you guys been?

If the movie is 1080p/24 (Which this movie is) then the speed of the movie is the same globally. NTSC and PAL arguments don't exist anymore. In the realm of HD there is no PAL/NTSC unless your talking about extra content that is shown in NTSC or PAL.

24 frames a second is 24 frames a second.

Good point. And the UK disc isn't 25 frames a second...?

demoni · 08-11-2009, 05:51 PM

Here's what BBFC says:

FRIDAY THE 13TH [2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT]
Classified 12 May, 2009 . Run Time 101m 5s

This work was passed with no cuts made.

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 101m 5s.

This work was submitted to the BBFC by Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) .
Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) identified this work as 2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT

demoni · 08-12-2009, 06:57 AM

Just to be on the safe side I would go for the US release. I'm guessing the UK and US release are identical (a killer cut should be a killer cut no matter where in the world you are...), but the US disc is a 100% sure bet.

josuv22 · 09-01-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoni

Here's what BBFC says:

FRIDAY THE 13TH [2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT]
Classified 12 May, 2009 . Run Time 101m 5s

This work was passed with no cuts made.

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 101m 5s.

This work was submitted to the BBFC by Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) .
Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) identified this work as 2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT

just check bbfc and it says
When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 105m 28s

This work was passed with no cuts made.

grrrarg · 09-01-2009, 07:33 PM

From what I understand, the European Paramount release is only the Theatrical cut with an AVC encode (runtime of 1 hour 37 minutes 10 seconds).

The US disc released by Warner contains The Killer Cut (runtime of 1 hour 45 minutes 30 seconds) as well as the Theatrical, both with VC1 encodes.

The Paramount disc likely looks better and has a higher bitrate for the movie (I haven't seen it) but, much like Watchmen, only has the Theatrical cut.

josuv22 · 09-01-2009, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grrrarg

From what I understand, the European Paramount release is only the Theatrical cut with an AVC encode (runtime of 1 hour 37 minutes 10 seconds).

The US disc released by Warner contains The Killer Cut (runtime of 1 hour 45 minutes 30 seconds) as well as the Theatrical, both with VC1 encodes.

The Paramount disc likely looks better and has a higher bitrate for the movie (I haven't seen it) but, much like Watchmen, only has the Theatrical cut.

OK

after checking the bbfc again
it says extended cut main feature 101m 5s
and FRIDAY THE 13TH [Extended Cut, Picture in Picture commentary] is 105m
a direct link showing the features on the disk which they rated
http://bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified...7?OpenDocument

So yes the UK version is Cut. at least the US version is region free and works out about 1.50 euro more to import it.

LordCrumb · 09-01-2009, 11:34 PM

different opening logos might change the running time.

GGX · 09-01-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoni

Buy the US release. Not only do you get both cuts of the movie, you also support Warner Bros., who ended the HD format war.

I wouldn't reward them for their shoddy releases. Still optimized for HD DVD no less..

Kieran · 09-02-2009, 08:20 AM

So the UK Blu is actually the theatrical version of the movie?

If this is the case why is it called 'Extended'?

If it was the true KILLER CUT it would be 105mins?

demoni · 09-02-2009, 11:45 AM

Just make it simple:

The region A Killer Cut is region free. Buy that one.

nekromantik · 09-02-2009, 12:33 PM

They are both the same killer cut
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=14844

Only diff is US contains the Theatrical version as well as Extended.

demoni · 09-02-2009, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nekromantik

They are both the same killer cut
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=14844

Only diff is US contains the Theatrical version as well as Extended.

Love your nic...

nekromantik · 09-02-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoni

Love your nic...

lol
cheers
freeky movie though...

Blacklac · 09-02-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demoni

Love your nic...

Network Interface Card? lol

So any PQ/AQ comparisons? I also suspect the Paramount release is superior in this case...

08-04-2009, 09:14 PM	#1
Funktion Power Member Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:1	Friday the 13th (2009) - UK release vs US release The recent remake of Friday the 13th was released on BD by Warner Bros. in the United States, but Paramount is handling it's release in Europe. While the US release includes 2 cuts of the film, only the longer cut is mentioned on the press release for Paramount's disc. Some stores are already shipping the UK release of the film, and I was wondering if anyone already checked it out, and could confirm: -if the theatrical cut is also included on the disc? -if there are any improvements regarding the US disc? The Region A Blu-Ray had 2 cuts of the film on a single disc, and they were apparently different encodes (not branching). If the UK disc only includes one of the cuts, they either improved the bitrate a bit, or maybe they simply turned it into a single layer disc (hopefully that's not the case)? Additionally, does anyone know if the differences between the 2 cuts are mere extensions to existing scenes (making the theatrical cut's inclusion more or less redundant), or do these cuts feature different takes/alternate scenes/...?

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08-08-2009, 02:31 PM	#2
demoni Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Buy the US release. Not only do you get both cuts of the movie, you also support Warner Bros., who ended the HD format war.

08-11-2009, 04:53 AM	#4
Daunty Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Belgium Blu-ray collection:119	Does the UK BR have Dutch Subs? Thx in advance.

08-11-2009, 05:51 PM	#8
demoni Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Here's what BBFC says: FRIDAY THE 13TH [2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT] Classified 12 May, 2009 . Run Time 101m 5s This work was passed with no cuts made. When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 101m 5s. This work was submitted to the BBFC by Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) . Paramount Home Entertainment (UK) identified this work as 2009 FEATURE EXTENDED CUT

08-12-2009, 06:57 AM	#9
demoni Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Just to be on the safe side I would go for the US release. I'm guessing the UK and US release are identical (a killer cut should be a killer cut no matter where in the world you are...), but the US disc is a 100% sure bet.

09-01-2009, 07:33 PM	#11
grrrarg Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:200 Trading Score:571	From what I understand, the European Paramount release is only the Theatrical cut with an AVC encode (runtime of 1 hour 37 minutes 10 seconds). The US disc released by Warner contains The Killer Cut (runtime of 1 hour 45 minutes 30 seconds) as well as the Theatrical, both with VC1 encodes. The Paramount disc likely looks better and has a higher bitrate for the movie (I haven't seen it) but, much like Watchmen, only has the Theatrical cut.

09-01-2009, 11:34 PM	#13
LordCrumb Moderator Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:New Zealand Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:405 Blu-ray collection:2924 DVD collection:109 Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:67	different opening logos might change the running time.

09-02-2009, 08:20 AM	#15
Kieran Active Member Member since:Jun 2008	So the UK Blu is actually the theatrical version of the movie? If this is the case why is it called 'Extended'? If it was the true KILLER CUT it would be 105mins?

09-02-2009, 11:45 AM	#16
demoni Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Just make it simple: The region A Killer Cut is region free. Buy that one.

09-02-2009, 12:33 PM	#17
nekromantik Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Bristol, UK Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:549	They are both the same killer cut http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=14844 Only diff is US contains the Theatrical version as well as Extended.

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