The Wages of Fear 4K UHD (1953) (BFI)

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by stigdu

Out today, I believe. Anyone own it and watched it yet? I've not seen it but have heard very good things, and I love the director's Les Diaboliques.

Mine is en route from Amazon UK.

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

Mine is en route from Amazon UK.

I'll wait for the review before buying, care to share your thoughts after you've watched it?

The most recent BD was a 4K scan I believe, so I'm not convinced it's worth double dipping.

[lilboyblu]

Watched the 2K restoration Criterion Blu-ray about a decade ago, but this will be my first time revisiting the film with the 4K restoration. The caps I’ve seen of the BFI standard Blu-ray look gorgeous, but as I never picked that one up, 4K UHD Blu-ray it is. Really looking forward to it!

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

I'll wait for the review before buying, care to share your thoughts after you've watched it?

The most recent BD was a 4K scan I believe, so I'm not convinced it's worth double dipping.

My copy is also on the way and should arrive no later than Thursday. Very much looking forward to it. I can’t imagine anything less than a spectacular UHD after all the extraordinary BFI UHDs.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

I'll wait for the review before buying, care to share your thoughts after you've watched it?

The most recent BD was a 4K scan I believe, so I'm not convinced it's worth double dipping.

100% of legitimate 4K UHD discs will be an improvement over a Blu-ray. If you’re still not convinced of that, 4K isn’t for you

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by nicwood

My copy is also on the way and should arrive no later than Thursday. Very much looking forward to it. I can’t imagine anything less than a spectacular UHD after all the extraordinary BFI UHDs.

I'm sure their disc is top notch, BFI never disappoints. I'm not sure the gap between their UHD and their BD is significant enough to warrant double dipping, though.

Looking forward to reading reviews

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

100% of legitimate 4K UHD discs will be an improvement over a Blu-ray. If you’re still not convinced of that, 4K isn’t for you

Terminator 2, Pirates of the Caribbean 1 and so on are so bad the BD is just better. And then there are those which are nearly, if not entirely indistinguishable from the BD, upscaled or not. I have an LG OLED C1 and a Panasonic UB820, so no it's not my equipment.

Granted, those are the minority, but saying 4K is always better is just wrong.

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

I'll wait for the review before buying, care to share your thoughts after you've watched it?

The most recent BD was a 4K scan I believe, so I'm not convinced it's worth double dipping.

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Watched the 2K restoration Criterion Blu-ray about a decade ago, but this will be my first time revisiting the film with the 4K restoration. The caps I’ve seen of the BFI standard Blu-ray look gorgeous, but as I never picked that one up, 4K UHD Blu-ray it is. Really looking forward to it!

I’ve received my UHD today. FiM-encode, BD-100, DV. Masterpiece release. It’s surreal how sharp and detailed the film looks. Truly a magnificent upgrade even when compared to their most recent BD, which was and is still very good on its own. In my opinion, a must for every collection. Nothing more to be said, it’s that phenomenal in every regard.

What struck me here was how beautiful optical shots can look like if studios and labels protect them from DNR, bitrate drops in the encode or other distorting things we see way too often. The opticals in this film blend in as seamlessly as it can get for the era. Looking at this UHD shows us what the format can and should do - preservation and perfect presentation. BFI did everything right.

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by nicwood

I’ve received my UHD today. FiM-encode, BD-100, DV. Masterpiece release.
It’s surreal how sharp and detailed the film looks.
Truly a magnificent upgrade even when compared to their most recent BD, which was and is still very good on its own. In my opinion, a must for every collection. Nothing more to be said, it’s that phenomenal in every regard.

What struck me here was how beautiful optical shots can look like if studios and labels protect them from DNR, bitrate drops in the encode or other distorting things we see way too often. The opticals in this film blend in as seamlessly as it can get for the era. Looking at this UHD shows us what the format can and should do - preservation and perfect presentation. BFI did everything right.

Glad to hear it's a significant upgrade over the BD. UHDs seem to be particularly suitable for B&W movies.

Caps?

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

Glad to hear it's a significant upgrade over the BD. UHDs seem to be particularly suitable for B&W movies.

Caps?

Sorry, no time at the moment. I hope you get your copy soon.

[andreasy969]

[Nitroes]

Disc plays in a locked A player no problems.


Had a flick through it's certainly got the grain intact. Images does look breathtaking for sure compared to anything I've seen before. It looks like a film.

I noticed it's just a 4K disc which is good if it keeps the price down.

[qw0aszx]

Based on those caps, seems the BFI UHD used the same master as the one used for Chinese blu-ray from Disk Kino, which has a different framing of image from the previous BFI blu-ray sourced from the 4K restoration.

[Persona]

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film11/4K_U...ear_4K_UHD.htm

Looks a worthwhile upgrade to me! Time to retire the Criterion and BFI release from a few years ago.

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by qw0aszx

Based on those caps, seems the BFI UHD used the same master as the one used for Chinese blu-ray from Disk Kino, which has a different framing of image from the previous BFI blu-ray sourced from the 4K restoration.

From what I understand, BFI used the French 4K restoration by TF1, same as their previous BD.

[qw0aszx]

Originally Posted by Rolling Dice

From what I understand, BFI used the French 4K restoration by TF1, same as their previous BD.

Yes, it the same restoration but the actual framing for the UHD master is different from previous HD master on BFI. I noticed this after receiving this master for Disk Kino release and asked TF1 about this problem, they confirmed they did two slightly different framing for different masters. The new UHD master they provided was newly done at that time from the DCP, so it has the theatrical framing they did.

Here are two simple comparisons between the previous BFI blu-ray and the new UHD caps from andreasy969, you can get the idea:

[Show spoiler]

(UHD on left, previous HD master on right)

[Rolling Dice]

Originally Posted by qw0aszx

Yes, it the same restoration but the actual framing for the UHD master is different from previous HD master on BFI. I noticed this after receiving this master for Disk Kino release and asked TF1 about this problem, they confirmed they did two slightly different framing for different masters. The new UHD master they provided was newly done at that time from the DCP, so it has the theatrical framing they did.

Here are two simple comparisons between the previous BFI blu-ray and the new UHD caps from andreasy969, you can get the idea:

[Show spoiler]

(UHD on left, previous HD master on right)

It's much clearer now, thank you for the comparison!

[CelestialAgent]

Les diaboliques also had different framing Arrow vs. Criterion

[M A]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Les diaboliques also had different framing Arrow vs. Criterion

I wonder if the 3 discs that use the 4K restoration of Les Diaboliques have different framing (being the French, Japanese, and Chinese)

[Dan8700]

Terrible framing on the BFI 4K, actually, done some comparisons. Not the right one, some objects are cut off the frame.