Dolby Digital EX 5.1

[G9logitech]

Hey Guys -

I had a question regarding some blu ray movie audio formats...Sorry if this is the wrong forum..

I have a Dali Ikon 5.1 setup, with ikon 6 as fronts...I have the denon 3800 blu ray player which does not decode dolby digital EX 5.1....When I was shopping for some blu ray movies for my collection, some of the descriptions on the back of the case, under audio, it says Dolby Digital EX 5.1?

What will my Denon player automatically play then? this is confusing me

Do all blu rays have the dolbyHD? And Do all blu rays have this, no matter what the back of the case says?


Can someone explain this to me? And as of 2 date, what is the best format for a war movie, I like to be in the action with all the thumps and bumps...Such as the movie we were soldiers, great movie... I suppose dolbyHD, right
thanks guys

[McGarnigal]

DD 5.1 EX is/was a dvd lossy audio option... its on the star wars prequels and some things.. it basically is DD 5.1, but supposed to be a little better on a 6.1 setup.. pretty much same thing. So yes there are blu rays without lossless audio, the Mission Impossibles come to mind.. as well as whatever you're seeing DD 5.1 EX only on

[G9logitech]

thanks Mc -

Will this still work on my denon blu ray player, since this denon does not decode dolby digital EX 5.1? And what would the player play by default, since it cant play DD EX 5.1?

[SlmShdy1]

Your player will still play the codec, but it will only be a core 5.1 track. What movie were you looking at? I've never seen a Blu-ray offer an EX track (probably because I only pay attention to lossless tracks).

No, not all movies have Dolby TrueHD. It the movie has a TrueHD, DTS-HD HR, DTS-HD MA, or an Uncompressed PCM track, it will be listed on the back of the case.

As for your last question; all three uncompressed formats are going to be the same quality.

[G9logitech]

Thanks Sim -

I had a whole list of them that had this, ill have to recheck...Will post movies that Ive found that have DD EX 5.1...I have to find the piece of paper when I went to the store...

While im looking...Can anybody recommend some "great" war movies? With tons of action?

thanks

[Rob J in WNY]

Originally Posted by G9logitech

While im looking...Can anybody recommend some "great" war movies? With tons of action?

I'm sure I won't be the first to suggest Black Hawk Down, which contains nearly constant action. Gorgeous, gritty picture quality and stunning uncompressed PCM 5.1 channel audio.

[G9logitech]

Sim -

I may of screwed up...I think I was looking at a regular dvd, such as the lord of the rings...My mind wasnt right...I dont thing blu ray has DD EX 5.1...

I was thinking blu rays, but must of picked this up at the store to just look at it, and since I was thinking blu rays, i dont know, todays just not my day

SIM: I see you have 80 blu ray movies...I want that kind of collection one day...Can you recommend some "MUST" haves if anyway possible

[G9logitech]

thanks rob...I want to stack up my collection...since Amazon.com is having one heck of a sale...Blu rays for $10-20...what a deal...I think im going to pick up 20 blu rays myself...

Do you think there will ever be a better disk format better than blu ray, such as maybe green lasered disks, called green disks hehehe
BLU RAY IS JUST AMAZING, EXPECIALLY WITH A QUALITY PLASMA

[hoogoosedmoose41]

Originally Posted by G9logitech

Thanks Sim -

While im looking...Can anybody recommend some "great" war movies? With tons of action?

thanks

Band of Brothers

[RocShemp]

I second Band of Brothers. Although sci-fi, Starship Troopers is great as well. Flags Of Our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima sound great as well, even though Flags Of Our Fathers does not feature a lossless track. Although not a guns blazing war movie but rather a life at see during times of war movie, you can't go wrong with Master and Commander.

Although I'm still holding out on Black Hawk Down and Master and Commander in hopes for a re-release that contains all the features from their respective collector's edition DVD sets.

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by G9logitech

Hey Guys -

I had a question regarding some blu ray movie audio formats...Sorry if this is the wrong forum..

I have a Dali Ikon 5.1 setup, with ikon 6 as fronts...I have the denon 3800 blu ray player which does not decode dolby digital EX 5.1....When I was shopping for some blu ray movies for my collection, some of the descriptions on the back of the case, under audio, it says Dolby Digital EX 5.1?

What will my Denon player automatically play then? this is confusing me

Do all blu rays have the dolbyHD? And Do all blu rays have this, no matter what the back of the case says?


Can someone explain this to me? And as of 2 date, what is the best format for a war movie, I like to be in the action with all the thumps and bumps...Such as the movie we were soldiers, great movie... I suppose dolbyHD, right
thanks guys

It is helpful for you to read A Guide to Home Theater Audio CODECS. It has a sticky in Audio section. The following is from that thread:

DOLBY DIGITAL EX (THX SURROUND EX) AND DTS EXTENDED SURROUND (DTS-ES)
In November 2001, Dolby Laboratories began to license the Dolby Digital EX (jointly developed by Lucasfilm’s THX division and Dolby Laboratories.) Shortly afterwards, DTS introduced DTS-ES. Both Dolby Digital EX and DTS-ES introduced a new surround back channel. However, the information in the back channel (either one or two speakers) was encoded into the surround left and surround right channels (similar to the way the center channel is encoded for Dolby Pro-Logic). The extended surround formats are fully backward compatible.

Because the surround back channel is not a discrete channel, the correct way to refer to these two formats is “Dolby Digital 5.1 EX Matrix” and “DTS 5.1 ES Matrix”. It would be misleading to refer to them as 6.1-channel or 7.1-channel formats.

DTS-ES Discrete 6.1: A true 6.1-channel format
DTS-ES optionally supports a discrete full-bandwidth surround back channel, independent from the surround left and surround right channels. This is called DTS-ES Discrete 6.1.

A few examples of Blu-ray movies that have Dolby Digital ES audio are:

• Stir of Echoes
• The Punisher also has 6.1 DTS-ES Discrete Audio
• Stargate

[G9logitech]

thanks Big Daddy...Very Informative...im going to lock this into my favorites folder