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Old 09-07-2009, 10:29 PM   #1
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I was looking at getting a new receiver well actually the denon 4380ci I was looking at the specs on crutchfield and it says it is not THX certified. But all the reviews are excellent on this receiver! Does THX certified even make a difference or is it some type of gimmick??? I have an old pioneer VSX 704s that I bought back in 96 or 97 and it is 175 watts x4 and it will blow your socks of with the raw power, volume and force it can generate I know it is quality of sound that counts and not just power. I refuse to get rid of it though because of sentimental value, it has even traveled to Iraq with me. Many friends have asked to buy it from me but still I refuse. It can easily fill not just a large room with music but any of the entire houses I have lived in. But it has no mention of thx on it. So does THX or THX2 or THX2 ultra really matter???
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:41 PM   #2
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I have a Pioneer Elite with THX, honestly, I don't notice any difference. It's not a deal breaker for me.

The rest of your equipment/wiring/room etc would need to be THX to really mean anything...if anything.
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #3
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I have a Pioneer Elite with THX, honestly, I don't notice any difference. It's not a deal breaker for me.

The rest of your equipment/wiring/room etc would need to be THX to really mean anything...if anything.
That makes sence. I have an Kenwood KRF-x7775D receiver I got in 2006 wich is 140 watts X 5 it is more advanced than my old pioneer but the pioneer still sounds way better and it doesn't have HDMI either! I don't have the manual at hand but I'm pretty sure it said THX Certified.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:02 PM   #4
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I was looking at getting a new receiver well actually the denon 4380ci I was looking at the specs on crutchfield and it says it is not THX certified. But all the reviews are excellent on this receiver! Does THX certified even make a difference or is it some type of gimmick??? I have an old pioneer VSX 704s that I bought back in 96 or 97 and it is 175 watts x4 and it will blow your socks of with the raw power, volume and force it can generate I know it is quality of sound that counts and not just power. I refuse to get rid of it though because of sentimental value, it has even traveled to Iraq with me. Many friends have asked to buy it from me but still I refuse. It can easily fill not just a large room with music but any of the entire houses I have lived in. But it has no mention of thx on it. So does THX or THX2 or THX2 ultra really matter???
Did you mean Denon 4308ci?

If that is the receiver you are looking for, buy it. I own it and it is excellent. Prior to this receiver, I owned a Pioneer Elite with THX. I never used the THX options.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:14 PM   #5
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THX certification just indicates that the hardware in question meets a certain set of minimum requirements.

Here's a list of the different certifications and what they mean: http://thx.com/products/home/logos/index.html

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Old 09-08-2009, 12:14 AM   #6
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THX certification is achieved by the hardware in question achieven a certain set of minimum requirments.

Here's an explanation of the different THX certifications as they relate to receivers: THX certification just indicates that the hardware in question meets a certain set of minimum requirements.

Here's a list of the different certifications and what they mean: http://thx.com/products/home/logos/index.html
Also, keep in mind that the company needs to PAY to get the receivers certified. There are many companies out there that will not pay to certify their gear even though it may meet or exceed the requirements from THX.

Therefore, the THX certification is not the be all to have. Besides, like it was mentioned before, EVERYTHING needs to be certified to really mean anything. Have you seen the THX certified door for $3K?
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:27 AM   #7
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exactly ^^^^ 4308 is an excellent reciever..... THX imo should not be considered as an important part of the purchase....
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:34 AM   #8
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I think the more important thing over THX is that Audyssey DynamicEQ is available via a firmware update or for newer 4308ci units shipping in the last year or so. I'm not normally one for EQ features other than calibration (which I even kill for music), but DynamicEQ has made a significant and welcomed difference in my HT setup.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:24 AM   #9
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Also, keep in mind that the company needs to PAY to get the receivers certified. There are many companies out there that will not pay to certify their gear even though it may meet or exceed the requirements from THX.

Therefore, the THX certification is not the be all to have. Besides, like it was mentioned before, EVERYTHING needs to be certified to really mean anything. Have you seen the THX certified door for $3K?
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I think the more important thing over THX is that Audyssey DynamicEQ is available via a firmware update or for newer 4308ci units shipping in the last year or so. I'm not normally one for EQ features other than calibration (which I even kill for music), but DynamicEQ has made a significant and welcomed difference in my HT setup.
I wish Onkyo offered a firmware update for the 705 to include DynamicEQ. That's a feature I'd love to try out. Oh well, at least MultEQ XT works like a charm.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:51 AM   #10
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Mine is thx 2 and it sounds amazing with PCM. Not sure if the certification has anything to do with it, but since they do pay for the certification, you know they believe in their products.
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I was looking at getting a new receiver well actually the denon 4380ci I was looking at the specs on crutchfield and it says it is not THX certified. But all the reviews are excellent on this receiver! Does THX certified even make a difference or is it some type of gimmick??? I have an old pioneer VSX 704s that I bought back in 96 or 97 and it is 175 watts x4 and it will blow your socks of with the raw power, volume and force it can generate I know it is quality of sound that counts and not just power. I refuse to get rid of it though because of sentimental value, it has even traveled to Iraq with me. Many friends have asked to buy it from me but still I refuse. It can easily fill not just a large room with music but any of the entire houses I have lived in. But it has no mention of thx on it. So does THX or THX2 or THX2 ultra really matter???
THX is basically a set of standards for your receiver and components. Owning something that is not THX certified does not necessarily mean that the equipment is any less of a performer - it may just simply mean that THX has not evaluated it, or that it doesnt off the items needed for THX standard.
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Mine is thx 2 and it sounds amazing with PCM. Not sure if the certification has anything to do with it, but since they do pay for the certification, you know they believe in their products.
Yes and no. Though they believe they meet the minimum requirements and thus are willing to pay for the certification, it's really just a matter of placing a logo on their product that they know will entice potential customers.

Plenty of receivers out there can meet and exceed the THX spec yet the manufacturers don't bother paying for the certification.

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Old 09-08-2009, 02:47 AM   #13
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This is a good article published a few years ago at the secrets website. This will explain everything you want to know about the THX program.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/techn...to-use-it.html
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:14 AM   #14
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Well thanks for all the info and help guys much appreciated!!!
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Old 09-08-2009, 04:30 AM   #15
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This is a good article published a few years ago at the secrets website. This will explain everything you want to know about the THX program.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/techn...to-use-it.html
That's a great article. I'm surprised I never read it before.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:42 AM   #16
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Mine is thx 2 and it sounds amazing with PCM. Not sure if the certification has anything to do with it, but since they do pay for the certification, you know they believe in their products.
the only time i turn on THX is when the media im playing is THX certified


like a Video Game or Film that is THX certified with a label shown,that what makes a nice difference



but with the onkyo it has THX select 2 that matrix 5.1 into 7.1 processing the the sound,too
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Old 09-08-2009, 06:50 AM   #17
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the only time i turn on THX is when the media im playing is THX certified
That shouldn't even be a consideration. If the media is THX certified, it means that it meets THX's requirements for the encoding and preparation of said media. It doesn't mean it needs a THX mode to play it back. THX modes on receivers are there for all media, whether it is THX certified or not.

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Old 09-09-2009, 03:50 PM   #18
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You will know what THX2 ultra mean's' so by defination do you need your sound system blasting out sound. The answer for me is YES. So then all you need to properly move into a new era of sound is add that 2nd Sub
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