Removing forced subtitles - Blu-ray Forum

roach_rch · 09-08-2009, 04:50 PM

Hi all,
I was wondering, is there any method to remove forced subtitles from TF1 releases (or any release for that matter) during playback with English audio? Any non HTPC methods known? Any hi-powered BD player that allows to perform operations initially forbidden to user? PS3 BREW? Anything?

To mods: this thread should probably be moved. I created this thread in SB section as I know for sure most of SB collectors experience this problem.

jw · 09-08-2009, 05:03 PM

no you are stuck with them on most TF1 titles

MarkG · 09-08-2009, 06:24 PM

I wonder why TF1 did this? I HATE this about my pulp fiction. Is it really that hard to add in a simple function to turn on or off subs?

Kynch · 09-08-2009, 06:29 PM

It's a rights thing. It's stupid and nationalistic, but that's the way the home media mentality is here, sadly.

roach_rch · 09-08-2009, 07:01 PM

Anyway, back to the question - can any BD player you know about remove those subs from playback?

MarkG · 09-08-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roach_rch

Anyway, back to the question - can any BD player you know about remove those subs from playback?

I doubt any can.

The Duke · 09-08-2009, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roach_rch

Anyway, back to the question - can any BD player you know about remove those subs from playback?

I think software players for PCs can remove and add subtitles. But when I try to use the Audio or Subtitle buttons on my LG BH200 player, I get the "this function disabled" error message.

kaliraver · 09-08-2009, 10:42 PM

Screw TF1, those bustards

tiger_qc · 09-08-2009, 11:54 PM

Well forced subtitles pretty much say it all.

If they were removeable they would be called subtitles!

That is really stupid from TF1 since most of the release are originally english it's pretty lame to assume nobody in France speaks English and would NEED subtitles.
I'm so glad it's not like that here.

(I live in Quebec)

Cheers,
Gui.

Ashamed Pegasus · 09-09-2009, 12:19 AM

Pretty much when you buy a TF1 SteelBook you're just buying the case... Be prepared to buy another version as well and swap the disc out... TF1 should just start selling empty cases and be done with it...

tiger_qc · 09-09-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashamed Pegasus

Pretty much when you buy a TF1 SteelBook you're just buying the case... Be prepared to buy another version as well and swap the disc out... TF1 should just start selling empty cases and be done with it...

Some people say the same thing about The James Bond serie oversea.

Anyway don't get me started... A Steelbook have to be sealed and remain that way.

Thanks TF1 for making sure I never open your Steels!

Cheers,
Gui.

sschen · 09-09-2009, 04:21 AM

I hate the forced French subtitles too.. It is not just TF1 that does it... I bought the French BD release of Taken a month ago, can't remember the studio name but it starts with a P something, and it too has forced French subs when English is selected.

Studio Canal also has done it before with their releases. I own the 2-disks (DC and Theatre Cut) Terminator 2 HD-DVD and one of the disks has forced French subs with English audio.

I have three BD players, Oppo BDP-83, LG BH200 and an Australian PS3, none of the players can remove the forced French subs.

But it can be removed by AnyDVD HD if you have a HTPC. There is an option in AnyDVD HD called "Allow Prohibited User Operations". If you select this option, you can then turn off the forced French subs.

Xorp · 09-09-2009, 06:58 AM

HTPC + AnyDVD is the only way as of now.

Kynch · 09-09-2009, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschen

I hate the forced French subtitles too.. It is not just TF1 that does it... I bought the French BD release of Taken a month ago, can't remember the studio name but it starts with a P something, and it too has forced French subs when English is selected.

Pathé/Europacorp. Another studio who likes those forced subs.

victors · 09-09-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashamed Pegasus

Pretty much when you buy a TF1 SteelBook you're just buying the case... Be prepared to buy another version as well and swap the disc out... TF1 should just start selling empty cases and be done with it...

Swapping disc is a crime.. if someone have the money to buy the amarray.. what the advantage to OPEN a SteelBook, throw the original disc away, and at last, put the cheap disc inside? what's the point?

Why not keep it sealed..

crashkelly · 09-09-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victors

Swapping disc is a crime.. if someone have the money to buy the amarray.. what the advantage to OPEN a SteelBook, throw the original disc away, and at last, put the cheap disc inside? what's the point?

Why not keep it sealed..

+1 to victors and I think he ate his wheaties this morning

sschen · 09-09-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashkelly

+1 to victors and I think he ate his wheaties this morning

You two just can't help yourselves

I think jwbudd needs to split the Steelbook forum into two separate sections:
1. The OCD Steelbook subforum

2. Normal Steelbook subforum (for normal people like me

)

victors · 09-09-2009, 12:32 PM

sschen you think you're normal

sschen · 09-09-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victors

sschen you think you're normal

I took the BD disk out of the German Orphanage Steelbook since I can't understand German and I will be putting the US disk into it once I receive it. Doesn't that make me normal?

roach_rch · 09-09-2009, 12:44 PM

Well then, I have to drive all you OCD guys mad - today I got my copy of German Wanted SB, and it was... ( www.dramabutton.com ) UNSEALED! Yup, crime against humanity and nature but I would have opened it anyway

Back to the topic - I guess I'm just gonna have to stick with my HTPC for those forced titles. It's a shame, cause I wanted to buy an external player that could play absolutely everything I stick into it (you know, all region-coded BDs, all region-coded DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, DAT tapes, vinyls, dinner plates, etc.

) and that could remove the cursed, unwanted subs, but I guess since noone invented a hifisupermultifunctionalcombo player that meets my requirements I'll simply have to wait a little longer

09-08-2009, 04:50 PM	#1
roach_rch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Gdynia, Poland \|\| Blu-ray SteelBooks™: all for sale:( Blu-ray collection:99 Trading Score:22	Removing forced subtitles Hi all, I was wondering, is there any method to remove forced subtitles from TF1 releases (or any release for that matter) during playback with English audio? Any non HTPC methods known? Any hi-powered BD player that allows to perform operations initially forbidden to user? PS3 BREW? Anything? To mods: this thread should probably be moved. I created this thread in SB section as I know for sure most of SB collectors experience this problem.

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09-08-2009, 05:03 PM	#2
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	no you are stuck with them on most TF1 titles

09-08-2009, 06:24 PM	#3
MarkG Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Lake Tahoe/ SF Bay Blu-ray collection:157 Trading Score:106	I wonder why TF1 did this? I HATE this about my pulp fiction. Is it really that hard to add in a simple function to turn on or off subs?

09-08-2009, 06:29 PM	#4
Kynch Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:60	It's a rights thing. It's stupid and nationalistic, but that's the way the home media mentality is here, sadly.

09-08-2009, 07:01 PM	#5
roach_rch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Gdynia, Poland \|\| Blu-ray SteelBooks™: all for sale:( Blu-ray collection:99 Trading Score:22	Anyway, back to the question - can any BD player you know about remove those subs from playback?

09-08-2009, 10:42 PM	#8
kaliraver Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Location:San Francisco Bay Blu-Ray SteelBooks™: (150+) Blu-ray collection:373 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:285	Screw TF1, those bustards

09-08-2009, 11:54 PM	#9
tiger_qc Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Quebec City, Canada Home Theater Gallery:69 4K collection:173 Blu-ray collection:1422 DVD collection:221 Digital collection:86 iTunes collection:73 Trading Score:84	Well forced subtitles pretty much say it all. If they were removeable they would be called subtitles! That is really stupid from TF1 since most of the release are originally english it's pretty lame to assume nobody in France speaks English and would NEED subtitles. I'm so glad it's not like that here. (I live in Quebec) Cheers, Gui.

09-09-2009, 12:19 AM	#10
Ashamed Pegasus Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Baltimore, MD 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:472 Digital collection:305 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:192	Pretty much when you buy a TF1 SteelBook you're just buying the case... Be prepared to buy another version as well and swap the disc out... TF1 should just start selling empty cases and be done with it...

09-09-2009, 04:21 AM	#12
sschen Special Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:In Movies Paradise Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:259 Blu-ray collection:2219 Trading Score:61	I hate the forced French subtitles too.. It is not just TF1 that does it... I bought the French BD release of Taken a month ago, can't remember the studio name but it starts with a P something, and it too has forced French subs when English is selected. Studio Canal also has done it before with their releases. I own the 2-disks (DC and Theatre Cut) Terminator 2 HD-DVD and one of the disks has forced French subs with English audio. I have three BD players, Oppo BDP-83, LG BH200 and an Australian PS3, none of the players can remove the forced French subs. But it can be removed by AnyDVD HD if you have a HTPC. There is an option in AnyDVD HD called "Allow Prohibited User Operations". If you select this option, you can then turn off the forced French subs.

09-09-2009, 06:58 AM	#13
Xorp Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Trading Score:28	HTPC + AnyDVD is the only way as of now.

09-09-2009, 12:32 PM	#18
victors Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Europe, Portugal Blu-ray SteelBook™: 514 3D_Blu-ray: 100 Home Theater Gallery:172 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3268 DVD collection:14 Digital collection:30 Trading Score:80	sschen you think you're normal

09-09-2009, 12:44 PM	#20
roach_rch Expert Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Gdynia, Poland \|\| Blu-ray SteelBooks™: all for sale:( Blu-ray collection:99 Trading Score:22	Well then, I have to drive all you OCD guys mad - today I got my copy of German Wanted SB, and it was... ( www.dramabutton.com ) UNSEALED! Yup, crime against humanity and nature but I would have opened it anyway Back to the topic - I guess I'm just gonna have to stick with my HTPC for those forced titles. It's a shame, cause I wanted to buy an external player that could play absolutely everything I stick into it (you know, all region-coded BDs, all region-coded DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, DAT tapes, vinyls, dinner plates, etc. ) and that could remove the cursed, unwanted subs, but I guess since noone invented a hifisupermultifunctionalcombo player that meets my requirements I'll simply have to wait a little longer

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