Michael Bay: "As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is" - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

BStecke · 10-23-2007, 04:56 AM

That's cool, I was just wondering. I always wanted to get it, but held off due to it being non-anamorphic. It'd be a nice Blu-ray release.

Blu As Hell · 10-23-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

That being said, it's still a top-notch transfer/compression. Absolutely gorgeous

I totally agree.

Blu As Hell · 10-23-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

That's cool, I was just wondering. I always wanted to get it, but held off due to it being non-anamorphic. It'd be a nice Blu-ray release.

Hopefully one day Criterion will start releasing Blu-ray, but I have a feeling we might be in for a long wait.

WickyWoo · 10-23-2007, 05:00 AM

It was actually the first DVD I ever bought

The gag reel alone is priceless, and the commentary track too

Track one is Bay and Affleck together, and other people seperately. The second track is the science advisors on the film poking holes in all the BS science.

It's far more likely that they will license the Criterion extras and repeat them on the Blu. The Criterion Armagedddon, Rock, and the Wes Andersons are all distributed to retail by Disney

Blu As Hell · 10-23-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It was actually the first DVD I ever bought

Wow!!! The Armageddon Criterion was somewhere in the neighborhood of 250-300 dvds I bought.

Let me think what were my first DVDs...that's right Goldeneye and Desperado.

ClaytonMG · 10-23-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It was actually the first DVD I ever bought

The gag reel alone is priceless, and the commentary track too

Track one is Bay and Affleck together, and other people seperately. The second track is the science advisors on the film poking holes in all the BS science.

It's far more likely that they will license the Criterion extras and repeat them on the Blu. The Criterion Armagedddon, Rock, and the Wes Andersons are all distributed to retail by Disney

Same here... well, technically the Theatrical edition and then the Criterion Edition... each one I bought BEFORE even owning a DVD player... Loved all the Sling NASA jokes Affleck was tossing around. But yes, the transfer on Armageddon is amazing. Almost as amazing as The Rock. I don't think I've ever seen a DVD hide compression as well as the Criterion version of The Rock.

But! I did think parts of Transformers was filmed using Super 35. I might be wrong though...

Copywriter · 10-23-2007, 05:16 AM

ME: "As a consumer, I'd say HD DVD is as fun as a diseased Thai hooker. It looks like fun--until you wake up the next morning."

Blu As Hell · 10-23-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Copywriter

ME: "As a consumer, I'd say HD DVD is as fun as a diseased Thai hooker. It looks like fun--until you wake up the next morning."

Oww...that burns.

Manco · 10-23-2007, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Copywriter

ME: "As a consumer, I'd say HD DVD is as fun as a diseased Thai hooker. It looks like fun--until you wake up the next morning."

I think you just wrote your new sig!

WickyWoo · 10-23-2007, 05:43 AM

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But! I did think parts of Transformers was filmed using Super 35. I might be wrong though...

They may have used it for the FX plates, but usually he uses the superior Vista Vision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistaVision

He swore off Super35 after the Rock, the results it gave him greatly displeased him

rdodolak · 10-23-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tekman

"It's short-sighted and it has delayed consumers' moving to HD (home video)," he says. "As a director, my critical eye is that Blu-ray is where my money is. Consumers are smart, and they are going to wait it out."

He also posted the following a month ago at the forum on his web site:

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...2&postcount=38

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Originally Posted by michaelbay

What did Paramount forget with the sound on HD? Explain it to me. Did they deliver something less then perfect? I never got involved in the HD version because I was so into Blu-ray, so what did the tech department not do?

Michael

gamer4eva · 10-23-2007, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

No he's not

Bay is a stickler for the quality of his releases. He fought for Pearl Harbor to only be released widescreen (they compromised on a 16:9 crop for the VHS)

He refuses to use Super35 because of the resolving power of anamorphic, and shoots his plates VistaVision for SFX

He's worked with, and insisted on Criterion for several of his films because he wanted them to be their best.

Action is Bay, and quality home releases are also Bay. It is 100% in his MO to be a Blu-only backer

nice info and iam sure after 16 months we will get one of the best BD's ever of Transformers with lossless audio and a 2-disc edition maybe
my heart kinda goes out to michael bay it was one of his best movies(although i love all of em

) and something to not be able to see it to its full potential is really dissapointing specially for the person who created it and for the consumers

Hussla · 10-23-2007, 06:44 AM

It's a pathetic state of affairs on the counterpart thread to this one on AVSforum.

They (Hdud fandrones) are really ripping and personally attacking michael bay ... that's so pathetic and sad.

JadedRaverLA · 10-23-2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hussla

It's a pathetic state of affairs on the counterpart thread to this one on AVSforum.

They (Hdud fandrones) are really ripping and personally attacking michael bay ... that's so pathetic and sad.

Now I'm not the world's biggest Michael Bay fan... I can't think of any film he's done that I've really cared for--just not my type of movies. But I definitely didn't run out and buy his latest flick this week, proclaim it to be the greatest and most important video release in history, and then go online to bash the guy. It takes a special kind of insanity to say the best movie ever made was directed by the worst director in history.

DealsR4theDevil · 10-23-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hussla

It's a pathetic state of affairs on the counterpart thread to this one on AVSforum.

They (Hdud fandrones) are really ripping and personally attacking michael bay ... that's so pathetic and sad.

can u link me to teh AVS thread?

DealsR4theDevil · 10-23-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Now I'm not the world's biggest Michael Bay fan... I can't think of any film he's done that I've really cared for--just not my type of movies. But I definitely didn't run out and buy his latest flick this week, proclaim it to be the greatest and most important video release in history, and then go online to bash the guy. It takes a special kind of insanity to say the best movie ever made was directed by the worst director in history.

What are the DVD BA, DVD CAS, and DVD SC filters in your movie collection? I have neve heard of those formats?

Hussla · 10-23-2007, 07:32 AM

Michael Bay has made some great and terrible movies, he's not the best director in Hollywood but he is talented in his own way. Personally I think he did spectacularly with Transformers. I don't get the immature mindset who attack him calling him a hack director (based on his anti-HDDVD views) etc yet they are praising Transformers, when at the end IT IS THE directors vision. If he was anti-bluray........imagine the hDud fan boys!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=927086

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=927116

Read and prepare to laugh

JadedRaverLA · 10-23-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

What are the DVD BA, DVD CAS, and DVD SC filters in your movie collection? I have neve heard of those formats?

They're all just DVDs. It's just a difference of what room they were in when I was entering them. I still have a lot of titles to go, and titles spread around all over the place. So I was entering them in groups so I'd remember which ones I'd entered. If I ever get around to finishing entering all the titles, I'll get rid of the tags, though it is kind of nice to have to remember what room a title is in. But since they get moved around from player to player, the tags would mostly be wrong after awhile.

Beta-guy · 10-23-2007, 07:48 AM

anyone here want to discuss with the HD-DVD fanboys in exactly what way does HD-DVD provide a sharper, clearer image for us those who want to enjoy the film itself... it has less space and less of a maximum bitrate, and the exact same choices of codecs as we have. why do they stand and fight for a format that can't perform on the same level as Blu-ray?

I've tried asking this question they only come back with it's cheaper and region free, I don't get it hairspray is delayed for HD-DVD because it's region free while we get it in Nov, so TBH I really don't get where these guys are coming from...

jdc115 · 10-23-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blitz6speed

Thats all nice info, but still doesnt change the fact that he back-tracked against BD earlier this year, AND hasnt forced the studio to release the movie on BD. All talk.

His backtracking seemed to be the kind of thing that happens after somebody reminds you have your contractual obligations not exactly how he feels. He really might not have any control over it at all and possible will be in violation of a contract if he does not fulfill certain obligations

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10-23-2007, 04:56 AM	#41
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	That's cool, I was just wondering. I always wanted to get it, but held off due to it being non-anamorphic. It'd be a nice Blu-ray release.

10-23-2007, 05:00 AM	#44
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	It was actually the first DVD I ever bought The gag reel alone is priceless, and the commentary track too Track one is Bay and Affleck together, and other people seperately. The second track is the science advisors on the film poking holes in all the BS science. It's far more likely that they will license the Criterion extras and repeat them on the Blu. The Criterion Armagedddon, Rock, and the Wes Andersons are all distributed to retail by Disney

10-23-2007, 05:16 AM	#47
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	ME: "As a consumer, I'd say HD DVD is as fun as a diseased Thai hooker. It looks like fun--until you wake up the next morning."

10-23-2007, 06:44 AM	#53
Hussla Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Geelong, Victoria, Australia	It's a pathetic state of affairs on the counterpart thread to this one on AVSforum. They (Hdud fandrones) are really ripping and personally attacking michael bay ... that's so pathetic and sad.

10-23-2007, 07:32 AM	#57
Hussla Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Geelong, Victoria, Australia	Michael Bay has made some great and terrible movies, he's not the best director in Hollywood but he is talented in his own way. Personally I think he did spectacularly with Transformers. I don't get the immature mindset who attack him calling him a hack director (based on his anti-HDDVD views) etc yet they are praising Transformers, when at the end IT IS THE directors vision. If he was anti-bluray........imagine the hDud fan boys! http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=927086 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=927116 Read and prepare to laugh

10-23-2007, 07:48 AM	#59
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	anyone here want to discuss with the HD-DVD fanboys in exactly what way does HD-DVD provide a sharper, clearer image for us those who want to enjoy the film itself... it has less space and less of a maximum bitrate, and the exact same choices of codecs as we have. why do they stand and fight for a format that can't perform on the same level as Blu-ray? I've tried asking this question they only come back with it's cheaper and region free, I don't get it hairspray is delayed for HD-DVD because it's region free while we get it in Nov, so TBH I really don't get where these guys are coming from...

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