"1080i is better than 1080p"...

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Sonny

moon-patrol , joust , jungle hunt , millipede, centipede This is on the 1981 Atari (I still have it)

Fiction! These games were all released in the arcade in 1982 and not available on the Atari 2600 until several years later.

[T-Town Oil]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

Fiction! These games were all released in the arcade in 1982 and not available on the Atari 2600 until several years later.

damn, thats what i call knowledge.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by buckshot

burgertime man, burgertime.

Burgertime is light years better than the original Atari 2600 basketball. BTW my son plays the Spongebob equivalent of Burgertime on Nick.com.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

damn, thats what i call knowledge.

I know when I had my Atari 2600 in 1981 that I didn't have such kickass games at that time. '83-'84 maybe... '81? Nah.

[T-Town Oil]

i think i even had a game called journey. it had one of their songs "dont stop beleiving" in the background...man, the good old days

[Joe Cain]

Umm...wasn't it still just the plain ol' Atari (or Atari VCS) in '81? I remember owning mine before the 5200 was released and there was no "2600" designation until Atari needed to sell something with double the number in its name.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Umm...wasn't it still just the plain ol' Atari (or Atari VCS) in '81? I remember owning mine before the 5200 was released and there was no "2600" designation until Atari needed to sell something with double the number in its name.

Yeah, I think they didn't change the name until around '82/'83. I remember the 7200 as well, came out in the late eighties and played 2600 games and games that were just above 5200 quality. I remember the VCS on got came with Combat, cool game back then.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

i think i even had a game called journey. it had one of their songs "dont stop beleiving" in the background...man, the good old days

LOL, it was called Journey Escape... I never had it.

Other goofy games:

- Yar's Revenge
- Adventure
- Carnival
- Haunted House
- Dodge 'Em
- Night Driver

[T-Town Oil]

ever play colecovision?

[Joe Cain]

I had a Colecovision. Zaxxon looked as good as the arcade version.

[DJeffries]

Originally Posted by DJeffries

If you start with a 1080P source such as HDM then you are correct. It will always look better at 1080P providing there is no conversion taking place. Once you start upconverting (needed for all most sources for 1080P output) then the better processing device will win out.

Also fixed panel displays will merge the two fields together and display the frame. There is no line doubling going from 1080i to 1080P. It just displays 30 frames a second instead of 60 frames (showing each frame twice) a second.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Umm...wasn't it still just the plain ol' Atari (or Atari VCS) in '81? I remember owning mine before the 5200 was released and there was no "2600" designation until Atari needed to sell something with double the number in its name.

Possibly but the 2600 and the VCS or whatever were the exact same machine. By comparison I remember referring to it as the 2600 as opposed to the 5200, which I also had. Probably I am just remembering it that way in retrospect.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

ever play colecovision?

I had one of those as well but never owned Intellivision. You had to have a ColecoVision for the primo version of Donkey Kong. While they did make it for Atari it just didn't measure up.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

I had a Colecovision. Zaxxon looked as good as the arcade version.

I remember Zaxxon was damn tough too, never could make past the 2nd or 3rd level.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

LOL, it was called Journey Escape... I never had it.

Other goofy games:

- Yar's Revenge
- Adventure
- Carnival
- Haunted House
- Dodge 'Em
- Night Driver

How about:

-Demon Attack
-Barnstorming
-Freeway
-H.E.R.O.
-Keystone Kapers
-the Swordquest games: Earth, Water, Fire, and Airworld
-and E.T., the game that killed Atari.

[Mystique]

That guy is crazy in the head.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by sj001

1080i is better than 1080p.

Right, whatever... and my Atari 2600 has better graphics than my Playstation did.

Where do these people get this s&^%???

Umm, AVM$? :-)

[SDG]

This artical explaines it good. More to it than this.

http://techdigs.net/content/view/53/42
The problem with interlacing technology is this alternating line drawing tends to cause the eyes to see a flicker. Unfortunately, interlacing reared its ugly head again in the 1990s when established HDTV standards included both 720p and 1080i options. Some broadcast networks use 1280x720p (720 lines progressively displayed) and some use 1920x1080i (540 even lines drawn, then 540 odd lines drawn). As of 2006, no U.S. broadcast network uses 1080p, or 'full HD' (1920x1080p).
The problem with 1080i is that despite having more total lines, it generally doesn't look as good as 720p. This is especially true for high-motion video such as sports. If you have a large (over 46") HDTV hooked up properly and want to see an example of this, watch a punt return on HDTV NBC Sunday Night Football, and then watch a punt return on HDTV Monday Night ESPN Football. The difference is significant. With far less aliasing (visible chunky pixels), ESPN's 1280x720p looks substantially better than NBC's 1920x1080i. While some of this may be due to the compression used by NBC or the cable outlet, most of it is due to interlacing.

The hd dvd that some are so proud of due to its low low price is 1080i. Sub-standard.

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by SDG

This artical explaines it good. More to it than this.

http://techdigs.net/content/view/53/42
The problem with interlacing technology is this alternating line drawing tends to cause the eyes to see a flicker. Unfortunately, interlacing reared its ugly head again in the 1990s when established HDTV standards included both 720p and 1080i options. Some broadcast networks use 1280x720p (720 lines progressively displayed) and some use 1920x1080i (540 even lines drawn, then 540 odd lines drawn). As of 2006, no U.S. broadcast network uses 1080p, or 'full HD' (1920x1080p).
The problem with 1080i is that despite having more total lines, it generally doesn't look as good as 720p. This is especially true for high-motion video such as sports. If you have a large (over 46") HDTV hooked up properly and want to see an example of this, watch a punt return on HDTV NBC Sunday Night Football, and then watch a punt return on HDTV Monday Night ESPN Football. The difference is significant. With far less aliasing (visible chunky pixels), ESPN's 1280x720p looks substantially better than NBC's 1920x1080i. While some of this may be due to the compression used by NBC or the cable outlet, most of it is due to interlacing.

The hd dvd that some are so proud of due to its low low price is 1080i. Sub-standard.

NO WAY, I can see a HUGE different between 1080i football games broadcast by CBS and 720p broadcast by FOX. HUGE difference...the 1080i boardcast looks significantly better. End of story....easy call.

[Sling]

Originally Posted by SDG

This artical explaines it good. More to it than this.

http://techdigs.net/content/view/53/42
The problem with interlacing technology is this alternating line drawing tends to cause the eyes to see a flicker. Unfortunately, interlacing reared its ugly head again in the 1990s when established HDTV standards included both 720p and 1080i options. Some broadcast networks use 1280x720p (720 lines progressively displayed) and some use 1920x1080i (540 even lines drawn, then 540 odd lines drawn). As of 2006, no U.S. broadcast network uses 1080p, or 'full HD' (1920x1080p).
The problem with 1080i is that despite having more total lines, it generally doesn't look as good as 720p. This is especially true for high-motion video such as sports. If you have a large (over 46") HDTV hooked up properly and want to see an example of this, watch a punt return on HDTV NBC Sunday Night Football, and then watch a punt return on HDTV Monday Night ESPN Football. The difference is significant. With far less aliasing (visible chunky pixels), ESPN's 1280x720p looks substantially better than NBC's 1920x1080i. While some of this may be due to the compression used by NBC or the cable outlet, most of it is due to interlacing.

The hd dvd that some are so proud of due to its low low price is 1080i. Sub-standard.

Thanks for the outstanding post SDG