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Old 12-10-2007, 08:40 PM   #41
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Will you buy an HD DVD or Blu-ray format this holiday season, as a gift or for yourself?
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HD DVD 18%
Blu-ray 70%
Not really buying either 12%
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:43 PM   #42
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Take Tom Brady out of the Patriots and they aren't 13-0.

Sheesh.

Take the engine out of the car and it won't run.

Lord.

Take the blood out of a human and he'll die.


I loathe those kind of references.
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:47 PM   #43
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Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here.
I love it when journalists refer to logical fallacies to make themselves sound like they know what they're talking about. My everyday environment is filled with economists / statisticians who do similar things all the time, though, so maybe I'm just overly irritated.

If blu-ray didn't have the PS3 and everything else held constant... then... whatever.

If ice cream sales and crime both increase in the summer, then ice cream sales *obviously* cause crime.

It's the same crappy arguments regurgitated in new ways and applied to new topics so they sound new, but the bottom line is still a bunch of crap.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:31 PM   #44
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Take PS3 out of the mix and there isn't even a competition here.
Well guess what the ps3 is in the mix and is clearly beating the nuts off of HD-DUD. I love how they always try to fall back on their old comments of how the ps3 is a non issue and wont make a difference in this format war.
It really is a part of the war and it really is making a difference and it really is almost single handedly winning it for the blu side.

I submit that if you remove the standalone players and leave it up the gaming consoles it wouldn't even be worth writing a story about the ps3 is clearly dominating the HD market. Actually go ahead and let the HD-DVD camp keep the standalone players and just take on the ps3 and they will still be losing.

Oh yeah and I did buy my ps3 as a standalone blu-ray player due to its ability to update itself.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:57 PM   #45
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Voted. Sounds like this guy has been listening to Ken Graffeo... "gamers don't buy movies"... freaking unbelievable!
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:30 AM   #46
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If PS3 gamers didn't buy movies for their PS3, and Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are tied in the standalone player sales, then that leaves the 2:1 ratio of software sales. Blu-Ray still wins.

But of course, PS3 gamers to buy movies for their PS3s. I'm proof as are others. The reds are just miffed at not having thought about including HD-DVD capabilities in other hardware. =/
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:37 AM   #47
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I'm sure if an HDDUD drive was included in the 360 they would change their minds and say gamers do buy movies..... this is so biased
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:46 AM   #48
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I'm sure if an HDDUD drive was included in the 360 they would change their minds and say gamers do buy movies..... this is so biased
They say whatever MS tells them to say..that simple.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:57 AM   #49
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i voted for blu!!!
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:13 AM   #50
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Numbers Of Voted Stoped At 800 Hmm Weird
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:17 AM   #51
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keep this thread and blu-votes going.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:57 AM   #52
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:02 AM   #53
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I voted in the poll
I just voted as well. Blu was leading 66% to 21% over Red.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:13 AM   #54
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This holiday shopping season could end up being the single most important battle this war and determine whether Microsoft, Intel and Toshiba or Sony, Disney and 170 other companies come out on top.


Shouldn't over 170 companies backing a particular standard tell you something also?
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:15 AM   #55
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I think the only reason HD DVD sales a player or two here and there is because its named HD DVD nothing else. More than half of the people I know refer to moves in High Definition as to HD DVD... I'm not worried. Uneducated people who buy an HD-DVD player will soon find out they made the wrong decision because when they go to the store and say "Oh, I can't buy Die Hard in HD DVD, or Oh, I can't buy Pirates of the Caribbean in HD-DVD... etc. etc. etc. Blu-Ray has the edge in sales, support and most importantly software! Forget HD-DVD... That thing its history...
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:28 AM   #56
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Voted and just this week swayed my brother-in-law (was considering XBox 360 with HDDud ad on)and a coworker (was neutral and does not play games) to go Bu Ray via the PS3. They both agreed it was the better of the two choices.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:32 AM   #57
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:51 AM   #58
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Voted BLU, and as I always do, I agree with all of you with these statements. When I was buying my stand alone BLU player, I was debating on the PS3. I rarely play games, but do on occation. Unfortunately I made a hastey decision in buying my XBOX 360, I wanted to play some High Def games, I didn't realize that the POS didn't have HD-DVD playing ability out of the box. When I found out I was instantly put off by the HD-DVD camp. I tried the add-on HD-DVD, but it sucked. Sound Quality was crappy and just made my XBOX all that much bigger, taking up too much space. I'll play my games on the XBOX 360 and watch my movies on my BLU ray player. Too much money in this equipment to not use it. I'll never buy another XBOX, or microcrap gaming device. Sony has always treated me right, with only one exception. The Sony "Xplode" in car stereo was the worst POS CD player I have ever seen, but I'm still a Sony happy buyer!
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Old 12-11-2007, 03:01 AM   #59
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Old 12-11-2007, 03:02 AM   #60
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The logic escapes me:

"74 percent of all Blu-ray players were sold inside Sony's PlayStation 3"

"Blu-ray players are acquired by gamers who may also want to watch the occasional movie"

"Blu-ray disc titles made up 72.6 percent of all high-def disc purchases"

So 72.6% sales were driven by 74% occasional gamers?

Wrong.

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