3D conversions have turned me off buying computer animated films - Blu-ray Forum

#Darren · 11-27-2010, 02:09 AM

Reason being it seems like they will 3Dize a lot of them, and I don't want to double dip.

Anyone else thinking the same way?

Tom Hiddleston · 11-27-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

Reason being it seems like they will 3Dize a lot of them, and I don't want to double dip.

Anyone else thinking the same way?

Not me.

I am not getting into 3D until the technology improves. I hate most cg films anyway.

detective392 · 11-27-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mmgirl

Not me.

I am not getting into 3D until the technology improves. I hate most cg films anyway.

Same here except I like CG films but am waiting for the tech to get better if I ever do decide to get into 3D at all but I am not waiting to buy movies that I want.

KilloWertz · 11-27-2010, 04:18 AM

Nope. I have no interest in buying a 3D TV, so I'll take the CG animated films in 2D.

Blu Titan · 11-27-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

Reason being it seems like they will 3Dize a lot of them, and I don't want to double dip.

Anyone else thinking the same way?

Not me

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Marcus Wright · 11-27-2010, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by killowertz

Nope. I have no interest in buying a 3D TV, so I'll take the CG animated films in 2D.

How can you be sure what you will want in the future?
How?

People making such certain predictions about uncertain future pisses me off.

KilloWertz · 11-27-2010, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Wright

How can you be sure what you will want in the future?
How?

People making such certain predictions about uncertain future pisses me off.

Am I getting the axe to the head again?

You may be right, but I also have my doubts that it will ever change. I would say that the chance of me buying a 3D TV is slim enough that it shouldn't effect my buying habits. I am perfectly content with watching my movies in 2D at home and going to the theater for any 3D experience I want (the only good one for me so far has been Avatar). I'm not knocking people for not wanting to double dip, but I would never skip owning a movie I really want just because of 3D.

Freezeup · 11-27-2010, 04:59 AM

Doesn't affect me. 3D is a cool feature to have on the side, to watch as say, a "treat", but 2D is what I prefer and will NEVER prefer 3D for home viewing as a regular thing.

They could can 3D all together, and it wouldn't affect me in the least. It can stay in the big theatres & theme parks.

Jezza · 11-27-2010, 05:00 AM

That's a bit of a narrow sighted view isn't it?

Just because they're re-releasing them in 3D it doesn't mean you have to get them again, because there's still the 2D version available. Take Toy Story 3 for example, it was released in theatres in 3D, but for the Blu-ray there was no sign of a 3D version and there doesn't seem to be one coming up either.

I also don't understand why it's 3D aninmated films that have turned you off, because they're also converting a lot of live-action films for Blu-ray, so surely if that's the case you should be turned off movie all together.

I think you just need to foget about the 3D conversion releases, and just focus on the 2D ones and then you won't be turned off by greats such as Toy Story, Monsters, Inc., Wall-E and Up.

farawayplace · 11-27-2010, 05:22 AM

Blimey, all I read about these days on parenting forums that's 3D-related is how upset parents are that 2D versions of movies aren't playing in theaters. They're having problems getting the little ones to keep glasses on their heads during the movie. Most people want a choice.

By the way, the royal wedding might be in 3D:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...ing.cnn?hpt=C2

Aragorn the Elfstone · 11-27-2010, 05:24 AM

Nope, 2D for me. Now and forever.

shinseiRomeo · 11-27-2010, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by killowertz

Nope. I have no interest in buying a 3D TV, so I'll take the CG animated films in 2D.

I'm with ya. Intentionally avoided the 4-disc version of A Christmas Carol as I choose not to support the format. First time I've ever broken my rule of buying a the "lesser" of a release.

BillieCassin · 11-27-2010, 06:29 AM

Not in the least.

I won't even think about 3-D until it's at least polarized, or they get rid of the goofy glasses altogether, and they hit a decent price point. I may but a new TV in the next two years but I won't pay one cent extra for technology I don't care about.

"Converted" films, even animated ones, were not designed by the filmmakers to be 3-D. I want to see the films as they were originally presented.

If, someday, I do decide I want 3-D, I'll cross that bridge when I get there, but it will be many years if ever. So no, 3-D has zero affect on my buying habits, because it simply is not on my radar at all right now.

EricJ · 11-27-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by detective392

Same here except I like CG films but am waiting for the tech to get better if I ever do decide to get into 3D at all but I am not waiting to buy movies that I want.

Since, to some limited degree, I've already GOT a 3-D ready PS3 (so, how do I make it go?--I've downloaded the 3D-Net promo as a test sample as soon as I get a TV, but I don't see any blurry images), I might look into the 3D screens as soon as they come down.

And since you always get the 2D version included anyway, I'd like to stock a few titles ahead of time...if they'd actually SELL any, and they weren't all danged "Exclusive promotions."
There's only one or two I'm interested in anyway, and looks like I'll have a TV set long before I ever see "Monsters vs. Aliens" for retail sale.

moviecriticsonline · 11-27-2010, 07:33 AM

3D is nothing special.

I don't need to see Humphrey Bogart or George Clooney popping out of a screen. I appreciate there films just as it has always been in glorious 2D.
I can understand animation films looks great, but who cares really?

Besides 3D is bad for your eyes, read about it and you'll see what I mean.
Consumers don't give a sh*t about us, all they want is our money, which is why I only put my money down on 2D movies.

GC Riot · 11-27-2010, 08:18 AM

I stopped, or at least cut down buying DVD's when HD material started to appear. I thought that if I was going to put my money on something, then it should be the best available presentation. After a while I started buying Blu-rays.
Now it's the advent of 3D blu-ray, and frankly, I don't care! Just yesterday I ordered Despicable Me, but not the 3D version, just because I don't want it in my home. I'm guessing that in a decade's time, 3D might be the standard, but I really hope it won't be. It's a novelty for me, first and foremost, and the only reason I would get a 3DBD-disc is if there's no price difference and the 2D version included is the best one available.
I watch the occassional 3D film in my theater, and it's a fun experience, but that's it for me.

Daredevil666 · 11-27-2010, 09:23 AM

3D is not about popping out of the screen, it's about creating depht.

All bad 3D is not due to bad tech, but bad artistic decisions.

Saying 3D sucks because of few movies with bad 3D is like saying all movies sucks because of a large bunch of movies being bad.

STARSCREAM · 11-27-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dvdvision

3D is not about popping out of the screen, it's about creating depht.

All bad 3D is not due to bad tech, but bad artistic decisions.

Saying 3D sucks because of few movies with bad 3D is like saying all movies sucks because of a large bunch of movies being bad.

+1. I have seen some 3D stuff with incredible depth and it really adds to the overall experience.

DavePS3 · 11-27-2010, 11:23 AM

I've been told by our Panasonic and Samsung guys that by this time next year, 80% of displays will have 3D capability. Like Closed Captioning, whether you actually use the function is up to you but you're not really paying any premium for the 3D... you're paying extra for the top of the line sets to begin with.

If a disc is actually in 3D, there are certain elements that they've placed in the film to look like they are coming out of the screen. If you convert 2D to 3D like on a Samsung and alter the depth to your liking, all that depth is from the glass back... like looking out of a window. Are there differences between converting say, Polar Express into 3D using the TV's processing or seeing the actual disc produced in 3D... yes. That depth is greater, drawing backgrounds much deeper into the frame. This is what I notice on my testing.

Bear in mind that all 3D discs can be played in a regular BD unit in 2D. Also, 3D does cost more factoring in extra glasses and the 3D player but I meant that the actual display's cost of featuring the 3D is almost nil, hence the PS3's ability via firmware upgrade.

RedIsNotBlue · 11-27-2010, 11:36 AM

There is good and bad things about 3D but you can say that about pretty much anything even Blu-ray it isn't a perfect format. I too agree that I feel 3D is actually more about the depth it can create while watching a movie at least from my experience. I think people focus WAY too much on the gimmicky poke out at you 3D stuff.

11-27-2010, 02:09 AM	#1
#Darren Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1471 Blu-ray reviews: 62	3D conversions have turned me off buying computer animated films Reason being it seems like they will 3Dize a lot of them, and I don't want to double dip. Anyone else thinking the same way?

11-27-2010, 11:23 AM	#19
DavePS3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:56 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I've been told by our Panasonic and Samsung guys that by this time next year, 80% of displays will have 3D capability. Like Closed Captioning, whether you actually use the function is up to you but you're not really paying any premium for the 3D... you're paying extra for the top of the line sets to begin with. If a disc is actually in 3D, there are certain elements that they've placed in the film to look like they are coming out of the screen. If you convert 2D to 3D like on a Samsung and alter the depth to your liking, all that depth is from the glass back... like looking out of a window. Are there differences between converting say, Polar Express into 3D using the TV's processing or seeing the actual disc produced in 3D... yes. That depth is greater, drawing backgrounds much deeper into the frame. This is what I notice on my testing. Bear in mind that all 3D discs can be played in a regular BD unit in 2D. Also, 3D does cost more factoring in extra glasses and the 3D player but I meant that the actual display's cost of featuring the 3D is almost nil, hence the PS3's ability via firmware upgrade. Last edited by DavePS3; 11-27-2010 at 11:37 AM.

11-27-2010, 04:18 AM	#4
KilloWertz Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Columbiana, OH 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:1042 DVD collection:65 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:82	Nope. I have no interest in buying a 3D TV, so I'll take the CG animated films in 2D.

11-27-2010, 04:59 AM	#8
Freezeup Expert Member Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Toronto Trading Score:1	Doesn't affect me. 3D is a cool feature to have on the side, to watch as say, a "treat", but 2D is what I prefer and will NEVER prefer 3D for home viewing as a regular thing. They could can 3D all together, and it wouldn't affect me in the least. It can stay in the big theatres & theme parks.

11-27-2010, 05:00 AM	#9
Jezza Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 4K collection:431 Blu-ray collection:820 DVD collection:36 Trading Score:1	That's a bit of a narrow sighted view isn't it? Just because they're re-releasing them in 3D it doesn't mean you have to get them again, because there's still the 2D version available. Take Toy Story 3 for example, it was released in theatres in 3D, but for the Blu-ray there was no sign of a 3D version and there doesn't seem to be one coming up either. I also don't understand why it's 3D aninmated films that have turned you off, because they're also converting a lot of live-action films for Blu-ray, so surely if that's the case you should be turned off movie all together. I think you just need to foget about the 3D conversion releases, and just focus on the 2D ones and then you won't be turned off by greats such as Toy Story, Monsters, Inc., Wall-E and Up.

11-27-2010, 05:22 AM	#10
farawayplace Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	Blimey, all I read about these days on parenting forums that's 3D-related is how upset parents are that 2D versions of movies aren't playing in theaters. They're having problems getting the little ones to keep glasses on their heads during the movie. Most people want a choice. By the way, the royal wedding might be in 3D: http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...ing.cnn?hpt=C2

11-27-2010, 05:24 AM	#11
Aragorn the Elfstone Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:The Secondary World 4K collection:245 Blu-ray collection:773 DVD collection:152 Digital collection:115	Nope, 2D for me. Now and forever.

11-27-2010, 06:29 AM	#13
BillieCassin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:35	Not in the least. I won't even think about 3-D until it's at least polarized, or they get rid of the goofy glasses altogether, and they hit a decent price point. I may but a new TV in the next two years but I won't pay one cent extra for technology I don't care about. "Converted" films, even animated ones, were not designed by the filmmakers to be 3-D. I want to see the films as they were originally presented. If, someday, I do decide I want 3-D, I'll cross that bridge when I get there, but it will be many years if ever. So no, 3-D has zero affect on my buying habits, because it simply is not on my radar at all right now.

11-27-2010, 07:33 AM	#15
moviecriticsonline Expert Member Member since:May 2010 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:36	3D is nothing special. I don't need to see Humphrey Bogart or George Clooney popping out of a screen. I appreciate there films just as it has always been in glorious 2D. I can understand animation films looks great, but who cares really? Besides 3D is bad for your eyes, read about it and you'll see what I mean. Consumers don't give a sh*t about us, all they want is our money, which is why I only put my money down on 2D movies.

11-27-2010, 08:18 AM	#16
GC Riot Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Gothenburg, Sweden 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:472 DVD collection:21 Trading Score:37	I stopped, or at least cut down buying DVD's when HD material started to appear. I thought that if I was going to put my money on something, then it should be the best available presentation. After a while I started buying Blu-rays. Now it's the advent of 3D blu-ray, and frankly, I don't care! Just yesterday I ordered Despicable Me, but not the 3D version, just because I don't want it in my home. I'm guessing that in a decade's time, 3D might be the standard, but I really hope it won't be. It's a novelty for me, first and foremost, and the only reason I would get a 3DBD-disc is if there's no price difference and the 2D version included is the best one available. I watch the occassional 3D film in my theater, and it's a fun experience, but that's it for me.

11-27-2010, 09:23 AM	#17
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	3D is not about popping out of the screen, it's about creating depht. All bad 3D is not due to bad tech, but bad artistic decisions. Saying 3D sucks because of few movies with bad 3D is like saying all movies sucks because of a large bunch of movies being bad.

11-27-2010, 11:36 AM	#20
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	There is good and bad things about 3D but you can say that about pretty much anything even Blu-ray it isn't a perfect format. I too agree that I feel 3D is actually more about the depth it can create while watching a movie at least from my experience. I think people focus WAY too much on the gimmicky poke out at you 3D stuff.

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