Where do Unreleased HD Movies Come From?

[Paden]

OK, probably a noob question but...

I'm watching "I Robot" on FXHD right now. This movie isn't out yet on Blu or Dud so I'm wondering where this version of the film comes from? My assumption is I'm watching a upscaled DVD which is then packaged in 1080i and sent to me via DirecTV. Or did the studio already do an HD packaging of the film for just this purpose?

Anyone?

[Cory108]

That would be it. It is just the standard picture upscaled to 1080i. I mean Family Guy hasnt released the high def set yet but they show it on TbsHd right now.

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by Paden

OK, probably a noob question but...

I'm watching "I Robot" on FXHD right now. This movie isn't out yet on Blu or Dud so I'm wondering where this version of the film comes from? My assumption is I'm watching a upscaled DVD which is then packaged in 1080i and sent to me via DirecTV. Or did the studio already do an HD packaging of the film for just this purpose?

Anyone?

All CE have 1080p master tape ready to go but the differ. 1frs the 1080p master tape for Die Hard 3 sucked HARD! with it played (at 1080i) on the TV, Fox redone it for BluRay. So it's not because it exist in HD that it's the best.

The way it work is that Fox for example send a copie of the 1080p master uncompressed (well compressed but loselessly) tape to the studio, the studio then, in real time, compress it and store it. Sometime they keep the master tape and just shoot it in Mpeg 2 in realtime (at 12-14mbits generally)

But all movie are mastered in HD, that have been for years...

[What'sHD]

(I dont know the real answer but) I think HD content originates from a place with soft music, floating angels and fluffy clouds or as we know it, heaven

[Paden]

Originally Posted by What'sHD

(I dont know the real answer but) I think HD content originates from a place with soft music, floating angels and fluffy clouds or as we know it, heaven

LOL! This is the BEST answer!

[Paden]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

But all movie are mastered in HD, that have been for years...

Thanks. So, if that's the case, other than better audio and an uncompressed signal, the picture I'm seeing now is likely as good as a DUD played on one of those cheap-ass $99 players?

[BlueAngelDad]

Originally Posted by What'sHD
(I dont know the real answer but) I think HD content originates from a place with soft music, floating angels and fluffy clouds or as we know it, heaven


oh, and lets not forget the Japanese Anime girls running around with Blue hair and really big eyes lol

[Cordre69]

If a mommy and a daddy released movie love each other very much...
But yeah, it takes more than an upscaled source to produce a watchable Blu Ray title.

[Geech]

Originally Posted by Paden

OK, probably a noob question but...

I'm watching "I Robot" on FXHD right now. This movie isn't out yet on Blu or Dud so I'm wondering where this version of the film comes from? My assumption is I'm watching a upscaled DVD which is then packaged in 1080i and sent to me via DirecTV. Or did the studio already do an HD packaging of the film for just this purpose?

Anyone?

I had the same ? myself

[JasonR]

I thought all movies were shot the same then just output to the resolution specified...

[g.k.]

Studios have been making HD masters of their movies for years before HDM formats came on to the scene. Not only for HD broadcasts/cable channels, but also because they serve as better source material for DVDs.

[Kirsty_Mc]

I Robot was shown quite a while ago on Sky Movies HD. It was definately HD (not upscaled), so obviously there is a HD master floating around. Rumours are that it will be on BD in 2008.

[HDTV1080P]

I first owned “I Robot” 1080I HD with 1.54 Mbits DTS since at least 2004 in the D-VHS format which uses MPEG-2 on tapes that hold up to 50GB. I am glad to see “I Robot” coming out on BLU-RAY. The Day After tomorrow 1080P transfer using MPEG-4/AVC on a 50GB disc looks better compared to the MPEG-2 D-VHS transfer.
The studios take a 35mm or 70mm film and create a 4K master scan or make a 1080P/24 master of the film on to a digital videotape format. Then the 4K master is converted to either 1080P/24 digital video tape or placed on a BLU-RAY disc. When the broadcasters send out the signal the 1080P/24 image is converted to 1080I or 720P format before broadcasting.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Paden

OK, probably a noob question but...

I'm watching "I Robot" on FXHD right now. This movie isn't out yet on Blu or Dud so I'm wondering where this version of the film comes from?

They probably come.. from the film... as all films do

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by Paden

OK, probably a noob question but...

I'm watching "I Robot" on FXHD right now. This movie isn't out yet on Blu or Dud so I'm wondering where this version of the film comes from? My assumption is I'm watching a upscaled DVD which is then packaged in 1080i and sent to me via DirecTV. Or did the studio already do an HD packaging of the film for just this purpose?

Anyone?

Wow, a lot of people poking fun at the question. It's too bad because I've had a lot of friends and some family ask similar things.

For the past several years now most movie studios have been doing their telecine transfers (on pretty much all films) to some form of HD tape. They would downconvert for DVD and broadcast, but they had an HD master. Knowing that HDTV was going to become big, many studios retransferred material even if they didn't plan on using the HD master in the near future.

That HD master is sold to broadcasters to air movies in HD. Depending on a number of factors, the broadcast version can look great or terrible. The amount of work that typically goes into creating a Blu-ray disc is FAR greater and involves considerably more care, as people's expectations are far higher for content that they are paying for than that which they get for free on TV.

As some others have said, sometimes an HD tranfer isn't available and the broadcaster will "upscale" an SD master, but this is becoming less and less common as time goes on.

Hope that helps.

[Paden]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

Wow, a lot of people poking fun at the question.

No biggie. Most of it was good natured.

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

It's too bad because I've had a lot of friends and some family ask similar things.

For the past several years now most movie studios have been doing their telecine transfers (on pretty much all films) to some form of HD tape. They would downconvert for DVD and broadcast, but they had an HD master. Knowing that HDTV was going to become big, many studios retransferred material even if they didn't plan on using the HD master in the near future.

That HD master is sold to broadcasters to air movies in HD. Depending on a number of factors, the broadcast version can look great or terrible. The amount of work that typically goes into creating a Blu-ray disc is FAR greater and involves considerably more care, as people's expectations are far higher for content that they are paying for than that which they get for free on TV.

As some others have said, sometimes an HD tranfer isn't available and the broadcaster will "upscale" an SD master, but this is becoming less and less common as time goes on.

Hope that helps.

It really did. Thanks.

[Marcusarilius]

Where do Unreleased HD Movies Come From?

Well.... new this talk had to happen sometime little partner. You see, the HD man and the HD woman get together for some innocent movie watching. A drink or two might come into play and before you know it...

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by Paden

Thanks. So, if that's the case, other than better audio and an uncompressed signal, the picture I'm seeing now is likely as good as a DUD played on one of those cheap-ass $99 players?

PQ varies but the HD DVD player are all the same at the core, only feature varies and PQ is the same across the board. All that's important is the encode and mastering. Like Universal on HD DVD, their new release are really good but most of their catalog title suck ass because of use of old HD master made a few years ago (cost less for them)....