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Old 01-11-2008, 09:38 PM   #41
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I don't get it. LucasFilm and New Line already double, triple, quadruple dip on all those franchises. There's NO WAY those franchises will outsell TDK
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM   #42
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And for all the reasons mentioned over the last few months, no catalog title will be the "defining" BD release (if there ever is one), not even LotR or Star Wars.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:39 PM   #43
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maybe just 2-3 hits in a row that look fantastic on BD and have features that evidently some what and it grabs peoples attention.

1 movie wont do it but a string of 3 would really get some traction.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:40 PM   #44
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Dark Knight needs to get 5/5 rating for the movie itself...and bring tons of records at the box office. If that's the case, then it has a chance to do so. If Dark Knight is a bad movie, then you shall eat your own words with salt
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:45 PM   #45
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:O Ive never heard of the black knight :O
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:58 PM   #46
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+1 for what stockstar1138 is saying, you're doing it better than I.

Dark Knight (on display on a Blu-Ray) might make j6p stop and say "Whoa" (yes, I'm alluding to Matrix). But Dark Knight isn't going to make him drop the money on a Blu-Ray system.

You need to remember that "flat-screens" haven't even made it into the general population. They're confused by the Red, Green, and Blue connectors on the back of their TV. Their DVD player has Red, White, and Yellow cords. (They're also the ones that have the red audio cord in the video spot, and then complain about their sound).

This will be the year for people to get more Hi-Def educated (so they know about HDTV, the equipment needed, etc.) I think by the end of 2008, we'll have a good platform of people with HDTV and better know-how.

You'll need that as a prerequisite before any movie will bring Blu-ray to the mainstream. HDTV needs to be mainstream first. Hell, the difference between composite and component needs to be mainstream first, and then even HDMI. Hell, people are returning HDTVs complaining that "It looks like someone smeared cat poop on it", not knowing that an HDTV needs an HDTV input. they just expect to bring it home and it looks superb like in Best Buy.

Right now, no movie is going to make J6P invest the time and money to figure out Blu-ray, when he fails to grasp HDTV. Eventually, some movie will do it, but I think that will only be after HDTV is mainstream.

Why did I just now think of that DirecTV commercial with Jessica Simpson and 1080i "I don't know what that is, but I want it". ? Average consumer education needs to increase. I think that with HD-DVD dying, that it's time to pour on the user education, to where they evolve to "I know what Blu-Ray and 1080p is, how to use it, and I want it".

Bottom line, we need two things, not one:
-Increased HDTV education for J6P
-Great movies on Blu-Ray

The second item should be taken care of now, but not even Dark Night will be able to overcome the obstacle posed by the first item.

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Old 01-11-2008, 10:24 PM   #47
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HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!!




Actually, it's probably the sequel that will be out on Blu in 2009/2010 that has a much better chance at passing the million mark .
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:23 PM   #48
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im not saying it won't sell well, but a lot of people are going to say, ive already got star wars on dvd, ill buy movies I don't already have on blu-ray, but I'm not replacing my 100+ dvds, thats too expensive for the difference in quality (remember not everybody is a HT enthusist). thats why im saying the movie that really pushes hidef is going to probably be a day-and-date like the matrix was for dvd.

point #2 about it having to be a day-and-date are the titles that are huge catalogs that have potential to be big movers (indy, star wars, lotr, back to the future, etc.) they all would be boxsets and you gotta a much harder time convincing people to spend 60-125 bucks replacing a box set that they already own on dvd vs. just replacing a single movie like batman begins.

nobody knew before the matrix was released that it was going to be what pushed dvd. id say we won't know it til its right on top of us.

criteria that will push hd forward in "The Matrix" of HDM is

-quality transfer
-action packed (the notebook or titanic will not push hdm, but dk could)
-lots of interactivity
-it has to make people go "whoa! they can do that and i can own that in my home."
You are completely correct.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:34 PM   #49
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What the heck is Dark Knight??

(LOL... I must be too old for this thread.)
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:44 PM   #50
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that and LOTR.
OMFG to think that the LOTR Trilogy is now exclusive to Blu for HD, and it never ever will come on HDDUD, this is too good
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:51 PM   #51
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The Dark Knight has MASSIVE hype right now, and I am really excited about it, but I try to temper that, because it will be difficult to live up to Batman Begins. We shall see how it plays out.
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Old 01-11-2008, 11:55 PM   #52
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Haven't heard of it.

Is this some gamers' fantasy movie?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:46 AM   #53
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What the heck is Dark Knight??

(LOL... I must be too old for this thread.)


Make sense, now ?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:52 AM   #54
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What if both the LotR EEs and TDK release around November? Now THAT will make Blu-Ray mainstream.

Well, not really mainstream, but it will really give the format a boost, imo.

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Old 01-12-2008, 12:55 AM   #55
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...Just like what The Matrix did for DVD

If not, I'll eat my own shoes. Mods you can sticky this

Only if Warner starts using better encodes.
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:59 AM   #56
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Make sense, now ?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:59 AM   #57
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What if both the LotR EEs and TDK release around November? Now THAT will make Blu-Ray mainstream.

Well, not really mainstream, but it will really give the format a boost, imo.
Sounds killer. a 1-2 combo always hurts
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:01 AM   #58
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Hard to compare The Matrix (the first one) to this, as the delivery of the story is radical - at least to the mass audience and not comic/cyberpunk readers. You also have to remember that The Matrix was big at the box office but got really big on DVD. In fact, some people got it on VHS and they thought it was groundbreaking.

Based on release dates so far, I think the title that'll bring BD to the mainstream is Enchanted. Great story, well acted and it is a crowd favorite for everyone and their fathers (mothers are a given).


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Old 01-12-2008, 01:11 AM   #59
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The Dark Knight is the follow up to Batman Begins...it should look amazing on Blu-Ray.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:18 AM   #60
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Oh you're better off using the one HERE

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