This is my next pc, what do ya think of it?

[blurayjunkie]

Here is the link

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...629fa55ccben02

I have $1400 to spend, this will cost me $1150 with tax. I plan on getting a monitor a month later a 23-25inch led one don't have a brand in mind yet. This has eveything I want in it at what I think is a fair price, None of the other pc's this site offers has USB 3.0 and that is a must for me.

Let me know what you guys think. Keep in mind I have no way of buying a PC from any online vendors. I have no CC and I can't pay via online banking or pay pal. So no Tiger Direct, Canada Computers, NEWEGG ect

Thanks

[Johnny Vinyl]

Looks really nice! When are you getting it?

[Almadacr]

It looks nice , i moved away from from desktops and i only have laptops , since i don`t play games on the PC only 360 or PS3 , but it looks nice . BTW Newegg as a new feature that you can pay with Interac i don`t know if it is already up but i remember receiving a e-mail regarding that . Like Axiom i can pay with interac .

[blurayjunkie]

Originally Posted by John72953

Looks really nice! When are you getting it?

Well I went today to pick it up, and of course with my luck they did not have any in. I was asked if I wanted the floor model and I said no. I am not going to drop $1100 on a floor model PC that's been used by only god knows how many people for the same price. So I went to 2 places in town that builds custom PC's and got some quotes. I am going to take a look at both of those and make up my mind.

PS. I was really excited about getting that PC Today, It was the right one for me and I wanted it badly. Oh well maybe something good will come of this, like getting a better deal on a custom PC. I am going to be getting some specs in a few days based on my budget. The guy I was dealing with was thinking of going with an AMD 6 core cpu, 8gigs of ram 2 500gb HD's or 1TB HD and an Nvidia 1gig card ect. I will post the specs he sends me via e mail when I get them.

[Steel Panther]

No. Save yourself a ton of money and custom build one.

HP no longer will make Desktops/Laptops/Cell Phones/etc. That's for starters, secondly, the parts in these pre-built systems are "nice" specs, but the technology and parts in them are 2-3 years old, which is why they sell them "cheaper". They also come bogged down with a ton of trial software all launching at startup and it slows the system right down, and then you have to spend a lot of time uninstalling stuff and removing things.

But, if you'd rather have someone do it, get one of those custom places to do it. You may end up paying about the same, but you'll have newer and better parts.

You could, in theory learn on the fly and build your own system, it's really not that difficult, and after my 3rd one, it became a joke and a breeze. It'll probably save you another $50-$100

Edit: You can buy a pre-paid mastercard or visa, put the $1300 on it and pay with that through on online vender, and it's as good as paying with your interac card.

[blurayjunkie]

I think I will be going with a custom build PC. I am just waiting for a list of parts within my budget to see if like the specs and go from there. This price will also include the labour as well.

I have a question, what do you guys think about the AMD 6 core, VS the Intel i7 chip set?

[Steel Panther]

Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

I think I will be going with a custom build PC. I am just waiting for a list of parts within my budget to see if like the specs and go from there. This price will also include the labour as well.

I have a question, what do you guys think about the AMD 6 core, VS the Intel i7 chip set?

I guess it would really depend what you're going to do with it. If I recall, the Intel i7 is by far a superior gaming chip, while the AMD is better or equal to other things (ie: encoding/processing). I'm an AMD guy personally but I also don't game.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Steel Panther

But, if you'd rather have someone do it, get one of those custom places to do it. You may end up paying about the same, but you'll have newer and better parts.

Agreed, and whatever you do, do NOT go to MDG Computers Canada.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

I think I will be going with a custom build PC. I am just waiting for a list of parts within my budget to see if like the specs and go from there. This price will also include the labour as well.

I have a question, what do you guys think about the AMD 6 core, VS the Intel i7 chip set?

It's not quite an apples-to-apples comparison, given the price and performance discrepancy between both CPUs. One would think that the more expensive Core i7 2600K would be a runaway winner in every benchmark test, but that's simply not the case. You can compare the numbers here (via AnandTech Bench). The Core i5 2500K's numbers are more in line with AMD's top current offering, the Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition (you can find those comparison numbers here). For heavily-threaded business apps, I like the Phenom II X6; for gaming, I'm giving the nod to the Core i5/i7 (for now). I say now because the AMD Bulldozer CPUs (based on the K10 microarchitecture; release date: TBA) could give Intel's offerings a run for their money.

[Adam.C]

Originally Posted by PrivatePixel

It's not quite an apples-to-apples comparison, given the price and performance discrepancy between both CPUs. One would think that the more expensive Core i7 2600K would be a runaway winner in every benchmark test, but that's simply not the case. You can compare the numbers here (via AnandTech Bench). The Core i5 2500K's numbers are more in line with AMD's top current offering, the Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition (you can find those comparison numbers here). For heavily-threaded business apps, I like the Phenom II X6; for gaming, I'm giving the nod to the Core i5/i7 (for now). I say now because the AMD Bulldozer CPUs (based on the K10 microarchitecture; release date: TBA) could give Intel's offerings a run for their money.

I am not entirely sure how you look at that benchmark and many others around the net and claim the 2600k is not a runaway winner. It clearly is and has been since release. The 2600k is far superior to the x6 in multi-threaded apps. In gaming it is not as much of a difference. Any of those chips would be fine for gaming.

[Steel Panther]

Originally Posted by PrivatePixel

Agreed, and whatever you do, do NOT go to MDG Computers Canada.

Nobody should go to MDG. They may actually rank below HP and Dell for everything. How Steve Nash got involved with them, I'll never understand. Your $1000 system at futureshop is probably the same price there, but they'll throw in a crappy monitor, KB, Mouse and make it look like a better deal.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Adam.C

I am not entirely sure how you look at that benchmark and many others around the net and claim the 2600k is not a runaway winner. It clearly is and has been since release. The 2600k is far superior to the x6 in multi-threaded apps. In gaming it is not as much of a difference. Any of those chips would be fine for gaming.

That's because it won most, but not every benchmark. Besides, if it was all about raw numbers, no one would purchase or build Phenom II X6-based rigs. If I had to build a rig at this very moment, I would still lean towards a Core i5 or i7 system, but I wouldn't discount an AMD build because a 900-series motherboard would allow me to swap a Phenom II X6 with one of the upcoming Bulldozer CPUs.

[blurayjunkie]

The following specs are from a PC store (that only does custom PC's) I am considering going with. I am still waiting for an email from the other store (also custom build PC shop) to compare and choose what I want to go with.

1- Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz Quad Core LGA1155 8Mb Cache 1333MHz unlocked
1- 8GB (2x4GB) 1333Mhz DDR3 Non -ECC CL9 DIMM Kingston
1- 2TB WD 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD - SATA 3- Black Edition
1- Gigabyte ATI HD6770 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E - Dual DVI/HDMI/DP Dual Slot
1- LG 24X DVDRW-DL Internal Writer- Black- SATA
1- Asus P8P67-LE R3 Intel P67 1155 4D.DDR3 2200mhz ATX
1- MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM w/SP1 ( I get to keep OS DVD)
1- 1 Year Warranty Parts And Labour
1- Antec One Hundred Gaming Case No PSU
1- 750 Watts TR2 Modular PSU- Thermaltake.


The total cost will come to $1469.69 including tax.
Without the unlocked CPU the cost will be $1442.57

[Adam.C]

Originally Posted by PrivatePixel

That's because it won most, but not every benchmark. Besides, if it was all about raw numbers, no one would purchase or build Phenom II X6-based rigs. If I had to build a rig at this very moment, I would still lean towards a Core i5 or i7 system, but I wouldn't discount an AMD build because a 900-series motherboard would allow me to swap a Phenom II X6 with one of the upcoming Bulldozer CPUs.

No it won all . Especially according the link you gave. People buy the AMD rigs for many reasons, most being cost. It is simply much cheaper.

all the X4s and X6 is more comparable to a C2Q than an i7 or i5 intel.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

The following specs are from a PC store (that only does custom PC's) I am considering going with. I am still waiting for an email from the other store (also custom build PC shop) to compare and choose what I want to go with.

1- Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz Quad Core LGA1155 8Mb Cache 1333MHz unlocked
1- 8GB (2x4GB) 1333Mhz DDR3 Non -ECC CL9 DIMM Kingston
1- 2TB WD 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD - SATA 3- Black Edition
1- Gigabyte ATI HD6770 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E - Dual DVI/HDMI/DP Dual Slot
1- LG 24X DVDRW-DL Internal Writer- Black- SATA
1- Asus P8P67-LE R3 Intel P67 1155 4D.DDR3 2200mhz ATX
1- MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM w/SP1 ( I get to keep OS DVD)
1- 1 Year Warranty Parts And Labour
1- Antec One Hundred Gaming Case No PSU
1- 750 Watts TR2 Modular PSU- Thermaltake.


The total cost will come to $1469.69 including tax.
Without the unlocked CPU the cost will be $1442.57

Why not order the same exact parts from NewEgg and put it together yourself? There's a ton of how to guides which I followed. Why the hell would you even pay someone to put a computer together anyway?
Do what I did. Look at guides, YouTube videos and ask on extensive computer forums i.e. techpowerup instead of blu-ray.com They were far more helpful.
Getting your own parts and having someone else put it together = damn pointless and fairly much equates to a pre-built.

[blurayjunkie]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Why not order the same exact parts from NewEgg and put it together yourself? There's a ton of how to guides which I followed. Why the hell would you even pay someone to put a computer together anyway?
Do what I did. Look at guides, YouTube videos and ask on extensive computer forums i.e. techpowerup instead of blu-ray.com They were far more helpful.
Getting your own parts and having someone else put it together = damn pointless and fairly much equates to a pre-built.

I could do that but am lazy and i lack the fine motor skills, This way is also a lot faster. Besides I have not made up my mind yet. I have not gotten the specs from the other store yet, If it does not come soon am not going to buy from there.

[Steelbook Pimp]

i would go with the AMD 8-core

[Offender_Mullet]

Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

The following specs are from a PC store (that only does custom PC's) I am considering going with. I am still waiting for an email from the other store (also custom build PC shop) to compare and choose what I want to go with.

1- Intel Core i7 2600k 3.4GHz Quad Core LGA1155 8Mb Cache 1333MHz unlocked
1- 8GB (2x4GB) 1333Mhz DDR3 Non -ECC CL9 DIMM Kingston
1- 2TB WD 7200RPM 64MB Cache HDD - SATA 3- Black Edition
1- Gigabyte ATI HD6770 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E - Dual DVI/HDMI/DP Dual Slot
1- LG 24X DVDRW-DL Internal Writer- Black- SATA
1- Asus P8P67-LE R3 Intel P67 1155 4D.DDR3 2200mhz ATX
1- MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM w/SP1 ( I get to keep OS DVD)
1- 1 Year Warranty Parts And Labour
1- Antec One Hundred Gaming Case No PSU
1- 750 Watts TR2 Modular PSU- Thermaltake.


The total cost will come to $1469.69 including tax.
Without the unlocked CPU the cost will be $1442.57

I just added all your choices to a NewEgg shopping cart. Price came out to $1073.91 (without shipping). Good God man, please do not waste almost an extra $400 for a custom shop to build it. If you were doing a full-blown watercooling setup then I can see why you wouldn't want to build it, but since you're not a computer is extremely easy to put together. You don't need fine motor skills, trust me (and everyone else on here who agrees).

If $1,400 is your price point, then you can get way better quality components than what you selected. There really isn't a need for you to get a 2600K if you primarily use your desktop for gaming. I was going to buy that too before I did my reading over the weekend.

Here is a more superior list of hardware. I did this on their U.S. site, but the prices are very close (example the 2TB drive is $10 more on Canada's site). This eats your other setup for breakfast, chews it to a paste, then spits it out.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz ($219.99)
Memory: G.Skill F3-8500CL7Q-16GBRL 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1066 CAS 7 ($89.99)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V LGA ($179.99)
Video Card: Sapphire 100311-2SR HD6970 2GB ($359.99 + $20 rebate)
Blu-Ray Rom/DVD-RW Drive: Samsung SH-B123L ($59.99)
SSD: Patriot PP60GS25SSDR 60GB SATA III ($109.99 + $20 rebate)
Hard Drive: Samsung F4 HD204UI 2TB ($79.99)
Power Supply: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W ($134.99 + $15 rebate)
Case: Antec One Hundred ($49.99 + $15 rebate)
OS: Windows 7 Professtional 64-bit ($139.99)

Total: $1,424.90 and after rebates it's $1,354.90 bam.

SSD will be your boot drive and you install the games on there. The 2TB sata drive will be for file storage. The video card is a monster. And low latency 16GB ram will handle anything you throw at it.

This is just an example of what else you can buy. In the end it's your money and your call.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Adam.C

No it won all . Especially according the link you gave. People buy the AMD rigs for many reasons, most being cost. It is simply much cheaper.

Okay, I stand corrected. I should have paid closer attention to the benchmark figures.

[blurayjunkie]

1 Home Bundle

ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T AM3 3.3GHz
Kingston DIMM DDR3 1333 8GB Kit
On Board Audio
CM Centurion 534 w/650W PSU
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
Sapphire Radeon HD6770 PCIe 1GB
Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 32MB
LG Super Multi DVD RW SATA GH22NS
Logitech Z313 2.1 Speakers
Logitech Desktop MK120 USB KB&MO
Kaspersky Internet Security

$1354.87 Total Cost.

Here are the specs from the other pc shop I was looking at.
I don't need the keyboard mouse and Kaspersky, thus will not be getting them. I don't care much for the PC Case at all, so I would change that as well.

Any ways I did this to price out a system I had no plans it getting it asap. I just wanted to see what my options were. Knowing What I know now, If I did choose one of these systems it could be the Intel one.

Thanks for your support on finding better prices online, however I can not buy online cash only. I suppose I could tell the shop about the prices you suggested. However I think am going to wait until next year to get a new PC. I will be too busy with Gears Of War 3, to even care about a new PC.