My PSN account got banned , what to do ???

[Psx0005]

I sympathize with your plight kx11, but sometimes it is worth the time to read through those agreements (NDA's or otherwise) every once in a while just so you have some basic familiarity with what can and cannot be done. About 90% of the time, I just do what you did in your Home video-scroll through all the goobledegook and hit the Accept button after I've gotten to the end. But even after all of that, especially with Betas, I have a basic understanding that sharing information regarding something along these lines-unless you're posting in an area that's clearly associated with the Beta or dealing with the Beta releasing party directly. Making videos of Betas would most definitely fall into that category of "I don't think I should be doing this..." even on a basic level. If I strongly wanted to share something like this, then I would make it a point to read the fine-print first. If the QORE thing is related to your ban, then same rules apply I would have to believe.

Unfortunately, when we hit the "I agree" or "I accept" button, it signifies that we have read and understood what we're agreeing to or accepting, regardless of whether it actually was read/understood or not.

But I hope it works out for you in the end man.

[Taipan]

So the lesson here is....


Reading is fundamental!

In the future, don't sign anything without full knowledge of what you are signing.

[slick1ru2]

If you can't sign into the forum either than your account IS banned too.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Psx0005

I sympathize with your plight kx11, but sometimes it is worth the time to read through those agreements (NDA's or otherwise) every once in a while just so you have some basic familiarity with what can and cannot be done. About 90% of the time, I just do what you did in your Home video-scroll through all the goobledegook and hit the Accept button after I've gotten to the end. But even after all of that, especially with Betas, I have a basic understanding that sharing information regarding something along these lines-unless you're posting in an area that's clearly associated with the Beta or dealing with the Beta releasing party directly. Making videos of Betas would most definitely fall into that category of "I don't think I should be doing this..." even on a basic level. If I strongly wanted to share something like this, then I would make it a point to read the fine-print first. If the QORE thing is related to your ban, then same rules apply I would have to believe.



Unfortunately, when we hit the "I agree" or "I accept" button, it signifies that we have read and understood what we're agreeing to or accepting, regardless of whether it actually was read/understood or not.

But I hope it works out for you in the end man.

Do you think anyone read that last user agreement. It was longer than my mortgage, car loan, will and 1040 long form put together. And the language was such you needed a lawyer to explain it.

[Groo The Perverted]

I would wager less than 1% reads ANY of the EULA's that we agree to when we upgrade the firmware in the PS3, or we buy music online, or videos online, or whatever. We click okay, and move along.

[Groo The Perverted]

lol, this is interesting... never saw this before:

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/eulalyzer.html

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Know What You're Getting Into When installing software, never just click past the license agreement. When joining a new site, don't just write off the privacy policy as too long and verbose to read. Pop it into EULAlyzer, and EULAlyze it!


*Note: This program does not provide legal advice. It can only highlight information that you may want to consider before making your own decision whether to agree to a license agreement or not. You should always consult a lawyer (or other authorized individual) for advice on legal issues.

[Groo The Perverted]

Richard Dreyfuss Reads the iTunes EULA - YouTube

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

I got a home Beta Invite. Didn't remember seeing any NDA. This isn't like some super secret beta for a never seen before software release, its just some new things on Home.

Every Beta has an NDA from what I have seen...

Just because we press accept without reading, does not mean it does not exist.

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by Sponge-worthy

Posting a video of Qore would likely fall into that category of misappropriating premium content. Why would you even bother doing that?

LMAO... Honestly, as I get to know more, I am glad sony banned this guy.

Posting premium content? That was a dumbass move.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Groo The Perverted

Richard Dreyfuss Reads the iTunes EULA - YouTube

They need Duke Nukem to read through Sony's.

Duke Nukem Talking Head (Lip Synced Dialog) - YouTube

[SoCalTiger]

This thread reminds me of the South Park Humacentipad episode.

"How can you agree if you don't know what you are agreeing to!?" lol

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Taipan

So the lesson here is....


Reading is fundamental!

In the future, don't sign anything without full knowledge of what you are signing.

Originally Posted by Groo The Perverted

I would wager less than 1% reads ANY of the EULA's that we agree to when we upgrade the firmware in the PS3, or we buy music online, or videos online, or whatever. We click okay, and move along.

Originally Posted by SoCalTiger

This thread reminds me of the South Park Humacentipad episode.

"How can you agree if you don't know what you are agreeing to!?" lol

I was going to say the exact same thing!

Anyone who has not seen that episode of South Park has to get their hands on it ASAP!

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

NDAs are pretty serious business. If I were to violate one, for example, I would lose my job and probably be blacklisted from my industry.

NDA's?

[PirateBooty]

Originally Posted by cvm

NDA's?

Go to the first page and you'll see an explanation.

[kx11]

yup i was right , it was HOME beta invite that did it


here's the email

Sign-in ID:
Reason: Community Standards Abuse
Location: PlayStation(R)Home

This email confirms that your account on the PlayStation(R)Network
has been banned for violation of the Terms of Service and User
Agreement.

Continued violation of the Terms of Service and User Agreement,
including the Community Code of Conduct may result in the banning
of your game console from any use on the PlayStation(R)Network.

Please refer to http://us.playstation.com/support/termsofuse/index.htm
for the Terms of Service and User Agreement.

The PlayStation(R) Network Moderation Team

look at the console they banned





i'm still waiting for a response from them

[ThePhantomOak]

You're waiting for them to apologize or are you waiting for them to bend the rules because you're special?




Either way, lol.




Why dont you buy a new PS3 and swap the cases?

[kx11]

who knows they might do that

i have another white ps3 i could go back to it when they ban this one forever *_*

[Icemage]

Um... from the confirmation, it doesn't sound like they just banned the hardware. I expressed surprise earlier that they banned the console and not the account, and the response confirms it; they banned your account, possibly not the hardware.

The good news, if you want to call it that, is that it's likely that the PS3 itself can get back online if you create a new account. The bad news is that any purchases you've made through PSN on the account that just got nuked are now gone permanently, as are your trophies for it.

Oh, and before you go getting any false hopes, there's basically zero chance of such a ban getting reversed. I can't think of any case where a console manufacturer has reversed a valid permaban without threat of legal action, and for that to work you'd need a better reason than "It's not fair!".

[Psx0005]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Do you think anyone read that last user agreement. It was longer than my mortgage, car loan, will and 1040 long form put together. And the language was such you needed a lawyer to explain it.

No, but by hitting the Agree/Accept button you are pretty much indicating that you're going along with what was said. Regardless of whether you actually read it or not, much less understood it heh! I hardly read any of the agreements on anything I install/utilize in my life, especially when it comes to software/console usage but at least I go in with a basic what's right and what's wrong understanding. And if I'm not sure about something before I'm about to do it, then I read the fine print.

[Sponge-worthy]

Originally Posted by Psx0005

No, but by hitting the Agree/Accept button you are pretty much indicating that you're going along with what was said. Regardless of whether you actually read it or not, much less understood it heh! I hardly read any of the agreements on anything I install/utilize in my life, especially when it comes to software/console usage but at least I go in with a basic what's right and what's wrong understanding. And if I'm not sure about something before I'm about to do it, then I read the fine print.

From a legal standpoint, you might be better off not reading it at all. Everybody (including judges and juries) knows that nobody really reads those things before clicking through, and you cannot substantively agree with something you have not read. However, if you admit that you read, understood, and agreed to the click-through agreement, then you affirmatively bind yourself to it. In these cases, ignorance may be your friend to an extent.