Blu-ray and HD-DVD - Blu-ray Forum

natieamwong · 01-19-2008, 11:17 PM

I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony.
I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek.
Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek.

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

*****Additional*****
Don't get me wrong, I have about 40 Blu-ray movies and about 15 HD-DVD movies.
I love blu-ray, if there are both format of the movie I like, I picked Blu-ray.

***** Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*****

Sonny · 01-19-2008, 11:22 PM

The hole point is to have 1 format. BLU-RAY. welcome.

Blu Titan · 01-19-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony.
I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek.
Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek.

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

One advice...put all of your HD DVD software and hardware on sale at ebay...and just go from there! You will be ok!

Caligula · 01-19-2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

One advice...put all of your HD DVD software and hardware on sale at ebay...and just go from there! You will be ok!

another advice.. now and fast the better for you to get your money back!

dperrone · 01-19-2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

One advice...put all of your HD DVD software and hardware on sale at ebay...and just go from there! You will be ok!

some of the best advice you will ever give !!!!

BStecke · 01-19-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

HD DVD's and HD DVD players will still work . . . you can either replace the discs on Blu-ray or just keep two players. Neither your discs, nor your player are going to explode the day HD DVD calls it quits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

People still want to buy HD DVD's. Why, I don't know. But, the releases will come out on DVD and Blu-ray first, followed by HD DVD a few weeks later. So, there's a small incentive to start buying Blu-ray.

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

People, including even many early adopters, don't want two players, especially two players that, at the end of the day, are meant to serve the same purpose and are of the same generation. The reason neither HD DVD or Blu-ray have taken off more is that there are a lot of people who are waiting out the war because they don't want to make the wrong choice and end up with a player that is obsolete. People don't want to have to worry about which studio's movies are on which format and which player to put it in when they get home.

Plus, I, and pretty much everybody else here, don't want to buy a format that is inferior to Blu-ray just to have movies from a particular studio. Who wants to support mediocrity? Just look at Mapquest

CAB · 01-19-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

I don't see it as any waste. Your player will work and be supported for years. I'm Blu only and you are seeing movies in HD that I can't and probably won't for many months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

I doubt WB or any other studio is expecting brick-n-mortar retailers to be carrying HD DVD much passed the end of May much less a growing demand for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

Combo players will always be more expensive than one or the other. Split studio support would end up being a stalemate and the end of HD optical for this round. Most people aren't insane (like us) in that they'll buy both players or spend hundreds more for a combo. Heck, professionals can't figure out HD A/V. Most people in the US still have an NTSC TV or an HD TV being fed by NTSC picture just zoomed in to remove those annoying black bars. Who wants the confusion?

mystiksuicide · 01-19-2008, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

I am sorry you wasted your money, you should have researched it better before buying that dud player. But in simple words why should I have to buy an inferior product to watch The Matrix ? Why should I have to buy 2 machines period? Why should anybody have to waste money like that???

Hell No, bye bye hd dvd and good riddance!!!!

uniquetreatone · 01-19-2008, 11:59 PM

Truthfully i have a ps3 and a xbox(no hd-dvd though).The reasan some have both is for games.Just think Halo or Gears of war are on xbox.But for movies BLU is the best.

Terjyn · 01-20-2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

***** Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*****

Ultimately, movies are movies, so having multiple formats for movies is a detriment to movie lovers.

Game systems on the other hand, have different features so games for one are not identical to games for the others.

BluWave · 01-20-2008, 12:14 AM

I agree that most people dont have an ATSC compatible TV and the ones that do are not feeding it anHD signal. This is obviously tru. Its not only money that makes this a fact as much as some people just dont care. I am originally from Flint, MI where money is as much the reason as any place in the country, but the friends and family I have there that have the money just doesnt care about HD or this HD war. I for one am a AV professional and have been for almost 10 years out here in California where a ton of money exists and it sems that more people just do care about the video quality. Bottom line is this is OUR WAR to win and we should not purchase HD DUD players or movies until at all. I am so Blu when it comes to Business or Pleasure that I am to the point of refusing to buy SD as well. Only one this year ( Transformers), And I am still regretting that. I just suggest shutting down all purchases as this will speed up this enevitable victory and total BD support by the studios!

Member of the Blu-wings

Combo players will always be more expensive than one or the other. Split studio support would end up being a stalemate and the end of HD optical for this round. Most people aren't insane (like us) in that they'll buy both players or spend hundreds more for a combo. Heck, professionals can't figure out HD A/V. Most people in the US still have an NTSC TV or an HD TV being fed by NTSC picture just zoomed in to remove those annoying black bars. Who wants the confusion?[/QUOTE]

Marcusarilius · 01-20-2008, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony.
I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek.
Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek.

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

*****Additional*****
Don't get me wrong, I have about 40 Blu-ray movies and about 15 HD-DVD movies.
I love blu-ray, if there are both format of the movie I like, I picked Blu-ray.

***** Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*****

I'm sorry. You are going to have to refresh my memory.

What is HD DVD again?....

Jonalan34 · 01-20-2008, 12:45 AM

advice for you, read post abt no long neutral in my sigs below. You click the link and it will take to my post about why Blu-ray is better and why I make choice. So make choice wisely, u chosen poorly because you got hd at late of point of format war which is near end of war.

natieamwong · 01-20-2008, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonalan34

advice for you, read post abt no long neutral in my sigs below. You click the link and it will take to my post about why Blu-ray is better and why I make choice. So make choice wisely, u chosen poorly because you got hd at late of point of format war which is near end of war.

you have no right to tell me that my chosen was poor.
I think you choose spend money wisely on buying only good movies.
We all have different opinion so at least respect others.

Matrix was the first Hi-Def movie that I have seen about 2 years ago.
At that time I did not even know what HD-DVD was.
At least I am happy that I have that movies on Hi-Def right now and pretty much enjoy watching them.

Kayne314 · 01-20-2008, 06:16 AM

natieamwong,

I too have both players. 2 Blu-ray players 1 HD DVD. I certainly have no regrets about my purchases. I've said many times, I'm too impatient to wait for movies to all come to Blu-ray... so I have both. I'm the type of person who watches my movies many, many times, and I get great enjoyment out of them.

The money I've spent on HD DVD isn't wasted. I've seen the movies, and can again many years from now. The movie is the thing. There is no telling WHEN we will get all those HD DVD exclusives re-released in Blu-ray. It may be a month from now. It may be two years from now. Enjoy the movies you already have, and start to concentrate on growing your Blu-Ray collection.

HD DVD has had its run, and there aren't many great titles for it in the next few months anyhow. Blu-ray is winning, and has won the format battle. Concentrate your future investments there. It is where the safe money is. Most must-have new releases will all be on Blu. That much is certain.

I'm holding onto my HD DVD until all the exclusives I own and love come to Blu-ray. I'll replace what I can, when they become available.

For the true movie lover, a single unified format is a must. A single format ensures mass adoption of the media.(in this case High Definition Movies). The more people that own a High Def player, the more titles will become available.

I'm happy Blu-ray won the format war, because it ultimately means I get more titles I want.

I too felt HD DVD was excellent. I still feel the same way. But Blu-ray IS the superior format. It won the war on its own merits. It won because it was better than excellent, it is extraordinary.

So, continue to enjoy your HD DVDs, and join us in celebrating Blu-ray's victory. Ultimately, it can only mean great things for those of us that love HD movies.

Lord_Phan · 01-20-2008, 02:15 PM

The people saying it was a poor choice are mathematically incorrect. The format war is ending only because warner went blu exclusive. Barring that unexpected move the War lasts at least 3 more years. Warner goes HD-DVD then HD-DVD would have won in 3 years(50% market share with most of the major franchises)

I bought a Combo drive for my PC gaming machine because I must buy futureproof tech. It's that simple. I supported Blu because it was the better product. But I made sure if it lost, my tech was still good.

Now that Blu is definately going to win, we may buy a standalone player for our big screen. Otherwise we were gonna wait out the 3 years and I'd just watch a few High Def movies on my 24" HD PC Monitor.

As for OP asking why you don't support both? Simple economics, HD content won't last if there's two competing formats. This war is not the same as VCR/Beta in that war, you either had one or the other or none at all. In this war the poor are just upgrading to DVD and the Upper classes are deciding this war with the Upper-Middle classes watching to see who's gonna win and ONLY then will they get on the action.

Nor should I have to buy two players to watch all movies. I like alot of Universal and Paramount movies. Even though I have a combo drive I support blu, I like High-Def sound and I want increased bit rates on my Video. I don't want a lower quality product. And I want to be able to buy ALL the movies I like on one futureproof product.

I bought my combo drive on dec. 27th, when the war looked to be going 3 years, Warner changed that and I have no regrets whatsoever. I still paid less then most of you did for your Single-format players. $250 to play Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

I now own 10 Blu-rays and 1 HD-DVD. I prefer the Blu-ray's and I'm happy they're winning. But don't say that it was a bad decision to protect oneself in the long-term, because that kind of statement is extremely shortsighted and done in hindsight.

Mikeblu · 01-20-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony.
I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek.
Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek.

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

*****Additional*****
Don't get me wrong, I have about 40 Blu-ray movies and about 15 HD-DVD movies.
I love blu-ray, if there are both format of the movie I like, I picked Blu-ray.

***** Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*****

I strongly advise you sell/get rid of it ASAP otherwise it won't be worth anything at all.

sj001 · 01-20-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natieamwong

I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony.
I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek.
Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek.

Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs?

Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format.
Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively.

Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player.
Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home.

*****Additional*****
Don't get me wrong, I have about 40 Blu-ray movies and about 15 HD-DVD movies.
I love blu-ray, if there are both format of the movie I like, I picked Blu-ray.

***** Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*****

Trust me, sell off your HD-DVD equipment and movies before they become obsolete and nobody will buy them!

Two movie formats cannot co-exist, and this has been reinforced especially by retailers who are now pushing to get rid of HD-DVD.

mystiksuicide · 01-20-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sj001

Trust me, sell off your HD-DVD equipment and movies before they become obsolete and nobody will buy them!

Two movie formats cannot co-exist, and this has been reinforced especially by retailers who are now pushing to get rid of HD-DVD.

Agreed BB is trying so hard to get that crap sold and out of they're stores before the bottom completely falls off. (They better hurry cause the bottom has been falling since Jan 4)

ezcobar411 · 01-20-2008, 04:07 PM

Having only one format makes it easier on the consumer and the producers. Having a niche format (dud) and a true format (blu) in the market simultaneously is ridiculous when consumers have already overwhelmingly chosen to go with blu.

01-19-2008, 11:17 PM	#1
natieamwong Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008	Blu-ray and HD-DVD I have PS3 since the date that it came out. I am a big fan of Sony. I also bought the HD-DVD player about 2 months ago because I wanted to see some movies that are in HD format such as Matrix, Bourne, Shrek. Now WB is going to Blu-ray exclusively and they are going to have Matrix on Blu-ray. If Paramount/Dreamworks are going to Blu-ray too then they are going to do Shrek. Question, how am I going to do next? The money that I and other people spent is going to be wasted. What will I do with the HD-DVDs? Another question is, why WB is still going to have some movies in HD format because later on, after May, they are going to have only Blu-ray format. Do they expect people to buy HD movies since they are leaving HD to go to Blu-ray exclusively. Why don't both format stay in the market? If you like Universal movies then buy HD-DVD player? If you like Disney movies then buy Blu-ray player. Low down the price of both format player then all consumers can affort to have both format players at home. ***Additional* Don't get me wrong, I have about 40 Blu-ray movies and about 15 HD-DVD movies. I love blu-ray, if there are both format of the movie I like, I picked Blu-ray. * Another thing is why you have PS3 and Xbox360 even they both play the same game and can't have Blu-ray and HD-DVD.*** Last edited by natieamwong; 01-19-2008 at 11:53 PM.

01-20-2008, 12:14 AM	#11
BluWave Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Indio, CA Blu-ray collection:93	Blu support I agree that most people dont have an ATSC compatible TV and the ones that do are not feeding it anHD signal. This is obviously tru. Its not only money that makes this a fact as much as some people just dont care. I am originally from Flint, MI where money is as much the reason as any place in the country, but the friends and family I have there that have the money just doesnt care about HD or this HD war. I for one am a AV professional and have been for almost 10 years out here in California where a ton of money exists and it sems that more people just do care about the video quality. Bottom line is this is OUR WAR to win and we should not purchase HD DUD players or movies until at all. I am so Blu when it comes to Business or Pleasure that I am to the point of refusing to buy SD as well. Only one this year ( Transformers), And I am still regretting that. I just suggest shutting down all purchases as this will speed up this enevitable victory and total BD support by the studios! *Member of the Blu-wings* Combo players will always be more expensive than one or the other. Split studio support would end up being a stalemate and the end of HD optical for this round. Most people aren't insane (like us) in that they'll buy both players or spend hundreds more for a combo. Heck, professionals can't figure out HD A/V. Most people in the US still have an NTSC TV or an HD TV being fed by NTSC picture just zoomed in to remove those annoying black bars. Who wants the confusion?[/QUOTE]

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Kayne314 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	natieamwong, I too have both players. 2 Blu-ray players 1 HD DVD. I certainly have no regrets about my purchases. I've said many times, I'm too impatient to wait for movies to all come to Blu-ray... so I have both. I'm the type of person who watches my movies many, many times, and I get great enjoyment out of them. The money I've spent on HD DVD isn't wasted. I've seen the movies, and can again many years from now. The movie is the thing. There is no telling WHEN we will get all those HD DVD exclusives re-released in Blu-ray. It may be a month from now. It may be two years from now. Enjoy the movies you already have, and start to concentrate on growing your Blu-Ray collection. HD DVD has had its run, and there aren't many great titles for it in the next few months anyhow. Blu-ray is winning, and has won the format battle. Concentrate your future investments there. It is where the safe money is. Most must-have new releases will all be on Blu. That much is certain. I'm holding onto my HD DVD until all the exclusives I own and love come to Blu-ray. I'll replace what I can, when they become available. For the true movie lover, a single unified format is a must. A single format ensures mass adoption of the media.(in this case High Definition Movies). The more people that own a High Def player, the more titles will become available. I'm happy Blu-ray won the format war, because it ultimately means I get more titles I want. I too felt HD DVD was excellent. I still feel the same way. But Blu-ray IS the superior format. It won the war on its own merits. It won because it was better than excellent, it is extraordinary. So, continue to enjoy your HD DVDs, and join us in celebrating Blu-ray's victory. Ultimately, it can only mean great things for those of us that love HD movies.

01-20-2008, 02:15 PM	#16
Lord_Phan Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Brampton, On	The people saying it was a poor choice are mathematically incorrect. The format war is ending only because warner went blu exclusive. Barring that unexpected move the War lasts at least 3 more years. Warner goes HD-DVD then HD-DVD would have won in 3 years(50% market share with most of the major franchises) I bought a Combo drive for my PC gaming machine because I must buy futureproof tech. It's that simple. I supported Blu because it was the better product. But I made sure if it lost, my tech was still good. Now that Blu is definately going to win, we may buy a standalone player for our big screen. Otherwise we were gonna wait out the 3 years and I'd just watch a few High Def movies on my 24" HD PC Monitor. As for OP asking why you don't support both? Simple economics, HD content won't last if there's two competing formats. This war is not the same as VCR/Beta in that war, you either had one or the other or none at all. In this war the poor are just upgrading to DVD and the Upper classes are deciding this war with the Upper-Middle classes watching to see who's gonna win and ONLY then will they get on the action. Nor should I have to buy two players to watch all movies. I like alot of Universal and Paramount movies. Even though I have a combo drive I support blu, I like High-Def sound and I want increased bit rates on my Video. I don't want a lower quality product. And I want to be able to buy ALL the movies I like on one futureproof product. I bought my combo drive on dec. 27th, when the war looked to be going 3 years, Warner changed that and I have no regrets whatsoever. I still paid less then most of you did for your Single-format players. $250 to play Blu-ray and HD-DVD. I now own 10 Blu-rays and 1 HD-DVD. I prefer the Blu-ray's and I'm happy they're winning. But don't say that it was a bad decision to protect oneself in the long-term, because that kind of statement is extremely shortsighted and done in hindsight.

01-20-2008, 04:07 PM	#20
ezcobar411 Special Member Member since:Dec 2007	Having only one format makes it easier on the consumer and the producers. Having a niche format (dud) and a true format (blu) in the market simultaneously is ridiculous when consumers have already overwhelmingly chosen to go with blu.

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