PS3 Sales Surpass the X Box 360 & the Wii in America

[PS3ds]

Originally Posted by reiella

Well, if it's looking at a similar lifespan as it's predecessor, then it's already closing on half it's lifespan.

Which is pretty pathetic... but what more can you expect from a cheap system like that. Like I said before, it is basically its predecessor with motion controls. The graphics are sad now... in couple of years they will be absolutely laughable. Calling it a 'next gen system' is blasphemy.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by PS3ds

Which is pretty pathetic... but what more can you expect from a cheap system like that. Like I said before, it is basically its predecessor with motion controls. The graphics are sad now... in couple of years they will be absolutely laughable. Calling it a 'next gen system' is blasphemy.

But, it's what more people wanted. *shrug* I'll admit to being surprised by it, and well I really wouldn't be surprised if we see the successor in 2 years time [after all, it's not very common to see the games have a sequel on the same platform anymore].

[xtop]

Originally Posted by PS3ds

Which is pretty pathetic... but what more can you expect from a cheap system like that. Like I said before, it is basically its predecessor with motion controls. The graphics are sad now... in couple of years they will be absolutely laughable. Calling it a 'next gen system' is blasphemy.

most systems go for 5 years, so its not all too pathetic

[sainraja]

Originally Posted by nhaase

How long until we hear the excuse of supply shortages for the other two?

As long as the PS3 outsells the 360.....

[makingmusic476]

Originally Posted by Avarice

correct I was just going to say that uncharted is past 1 million, and believe it or not I believe pre-orders for killzone 2 are at 1.5 currently as well. So if someone is 'still" using north american sales they are incorrect for the true global sales numbers. Plus outside of the us ps3 and wii are the "big" sales leaders not the 360.

I didn't realize any stores had begun taking pre-orders for Killzone 2.

GTAIV or SSBB I could see having pre-orders that high, but even MGS4 would have trouble reaching that number.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by xtop

that is why people say the ps3 has no games. 11 games with a 90 or higher vs 3 with a 90 or higher. thankfully tho the ps3 has been picking it up, and will certainly make this up over the course of this year.

Since when does a game require 90+ in order to be a good game?

Furthermore, and I've said this before, Metacritic will have higher Xbox scores by default than PS3. This is because there are more reviewers for the 360 than there are for PS3.

If a game gets 100 100 100 100 100 70 for 360 and 100 100 100 100 70 for PS3, the 360's average is 95 and the PS3s is 94. Does this really mean that the PS3 version is worse?

This does work in the reverse. Terrible games will tend to have a higher score on PS3 than they do on 360...but nobody cares.

Seriously, go count. (Almost) every single game has more reviews for 360 than for PS3 on metacritic.

As a result of this actually, when the two scores are identical (Call of Duty 4, for example), this implies the PS3 game is actually a better game due to metacritic's natural handicapping of the score in favor of the Xbox.

None of this is metacritics fault, it's just how it works.

Much like attach rates, what metacritic does can not be applied cross platform.

[actionhank]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Since when does a game require 90+ in order to be a good game?

Furthermore, and I've said this before, Metacritic will have higher Xbox scores by default than PS3. This is because there are more reviewers for the 360 than there are for PS3.

If a game gets 100 100 100 100 100 70 for 360 and 100 100 100 100 70 for PS3, the 360's average is 95 and the PS3s is 94. Does this really mean that the PS3 version is worse?

This does work in the reverse. Terrible games will tend to have a higher score on PS3 than they do on 360...but nobody cares.

Seriously, go count. (Almost) every single game has more reviews for 360 than for PS3 on metacritic.

As a result of this actually, when the two scores are identical (Call of Duty 4, for example), this implies the PS3 game is actually a better game due to metacritic's natural handicapping of the score in favor of the Xbox.

None of this is metacritics fault, it's just how it works.

Much like attach rates, what metacritic does can not be applied cross platform.

Metacritic uses weighted averages, so the problem isn't as severe as you might think. I am not saying the problem is eliminated though. And the weighted average technique opens up a whole new world of problems. But I think it is better than using a simple average. And relying on metascores is most definitely better than relying on one review.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by xtop

http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/scores/
http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/scores/

that is why people say the ps3 has no games. 11 games with a 90 or higher vs 3 with a 90 or higher. thankfully tho the ps3 has been picking it up, and will certainly make this up over the course of this year.

Everyone knows these websites are very biased and are made up of fanboys protecting their franchise of choice... usually always the 360. Just check the scores on Ornage Box & Oblivion... Oblivion was better on PS3 but scored lower. Orange Box is the same thing on both but because of timing it scored 7 pts lower... come on. And these clowns love to hate on PS3 exclusives.

Consider me not impressed.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by actionhank

Metacritic uses weighted averages, so the problem isn't as severe as you might think. I am not saying the problem is eliminated though. And the weighted average technique opens up a whole new world of problems. But I think it is better than using a simple average. And relying on metascores is most definitely better than relying on one review.

Relying on your own perspective is better than relying on the output of a biased system.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by xtop

http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/scores/
http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/scores/

that is why people say the ps3 has no games. 11 games with a 90 or higher vs 3 with a 90 or higher. thankfully tho the ps3 has been picking it up, and will certainly make this up over the course of this year.

Neither one of the links .. yours or mine .. take into account the bias and influence of the underlying reviewers being aggregated. As we saw with Kane and Lynch these scores often say as much about advertising dollars as they do about a game.

These scores show a different picture...the top 10% are even ... and overall the quality of the PS3 games are better.

http://kotaku.com/355812/say-did-you...wii-games-suck
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=9066&Itemid=2

The only thing to trust is your own xp as any reviews often leave out things that are important to some but not others. For example they rarely if ever mention the extra controller capability of the PS3 for sports games - which is a big plus for our kids when their friends are over .. but something a single person reviewer is usually oblivious to.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by actionhank

Metacritic uses weighted averages, so the problem isn't as severe as you might think. I am not saying the problem is eliminated though. And the weighted average technique opens up a whole new world of problems. But I think it is better than using a simple average. And relying on metascores is most definitely better than relying on one review.

See, I'll disagree there.

The scores are worthless to me, the content of the review is what's important, and if you know the reviewer [and their own preferences], you can get a good guess out of it.

Scores are meaningless little contrivances to help magazines talk out out of both sides of their [expletive] to appease their advertisers.

[jtconnolly]

my bad

[reiella]

Originally Posted by jtconnolly

Worldwide sales figures
Wii: 20.13 million, as of December 31, 2007[16]
Playstation 3: 19.2 million, as of February 22, 2008[19]
Xbox 360: 10.49 million, as of December 31, 2007[20][21]

[edit] US sales figures
Wii: 9.15 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]
Playstation 3: 7.38 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]
Xbox 360: 3.25 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]

[edit] Japan sales figures
Wii: 4,618,479, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]
PlayStation 3: 1,673,063, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]
Xbox 360: 548,308, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]

Are Europe's numbers really that slanted against the Wii?

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by jtconnolly

Worldwide sales figures
Wii: 20.13 million, as of December 31, 2007[16]
Playstation 3: 19.2 million, as of February 22, 2008[19]
Xbox 360: 10.49 million, as of December 31, 2007[20][21]

[edit] US sales figures
Wii: 9.15 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]
Playstation 3: 7.38 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]
Xbox 360: 3.25 million, as of January 1, 2008[22][23][24]

[edit] Japan sales figures
Wii: 4,618,479, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]
PlayStation 3: 1,673,063, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]
Xbox 360: 548,308, as of January 1, 2008[25][26]

Where did you get those sale figures?

http://www.vgchartz.com/


According to VGchartz.com As of Week Ending 23rd February 2008

Wii
Total 21.87M
5.43M Japan
9.44M America
7.00M Others

Xbox 360
Total: 17.22M
0.58M Japan
11.01M America
5.63M Others

PS3
Total 10.36M
1.96M Japan
4.09M America
4.31M Others

[reiella]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Where did you get those sale figures?

http://www.vgchartz.com/


According to VGchartz.com As of Week Ending 23rd February 2008

Wii
Total 21.87M
5.43M Japan
9.44M America
7.00M Others

Xbox 360
Total: 17.22M
0.58M Japan
11.01M America
5.63M Others

PS3
Total 10.36M
1.96M Japan
4.09M America
4.31M Others

He got them from wiki, they're wrong, and looks like some internet console warrior was playing around with reordering stuff on wiki.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by reiella

He got them from wiki, they're wrong, and looks like some internet console warrior was playing around with reordering stuff on wiki.

oh, thanks.

[Argento Fan]

Will Sony meet its goal of selling 10 million PS3 by March 31?

[MotionBlurr]

I wish GameFan magazine was back. They were best when reviewing Playstation games.

[MotionBlurr]

Originally Posted by Blu-Goliath

Will Sony meet its goal of selling 10 million PS3 by March 31?

VGChartz, I don't know how reliable they are, has them past 10 million already.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Blu-Goliath

Will Sony meet its goal of selling 10 million PS3 by March 31?

sony passed the 10 million mark weeks ago buddy.