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Old 03-14-2008, 05:20 PM   #1
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I watched my latest purchaces on BD the other day. It was Lady in the Water, and it had no main menu. I have a few other titles with this as well. I just dont remember what they are right now and cant check cause im at work. I watch them on a 60 gig PS3. Is this a playback problem or do they actually not have a main menu?
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:25 PM   #2
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I watched my latest purchaces on BD the other day. It was Lady in the Water, and it had no main menu. I have a few other titles with this as well. I just dont remember what they are right now and cant check cause im at work. I watch them on a 60 gig PS3. Is this a playback problem or do they actually not have a main menu?
It's a Warner thing---their BDs load up & automatically start playing from the beginning of the film. There is a main menu, you just won't see it unless you specifically call it up.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:33 PM   #3
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Aside from Warner, only US titles will have a title menu. As far as I'm aware of, most international titles will not have a title menu.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:40 PM   #4
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This used to annoy me when I was first getting into BD. Now I think it's a nice little bonus, save the fact that the movie starts and defaults to the lossy audio tracks.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:43 PM   #5
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This used to annoy me when I was first getting into BD. Now I think it's a nice little bonus, save the fact that the movie starts and defaults to the lossy audio tracks.
This is okay if movies start with the best audio tracks, unfortunately I have seen many that don't.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:54 PM   #6
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I hate that, sometimes I wanna wait to start it or check out how they menus look.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:55 PM   #7
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This is okay if movies start with the best audio tracks, unfortunately I have seen many that don't.
I don't think any of them default to PCM/TrueHD. Every one I've seen goes straight to Dolby Digital.
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Old 03-14-2008, 05:59 PM   #8
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I've noticed the PS3 sets up the disc automatically to the highest preference audio availible on you receiver, mine usually goes straight into DTS or PCM - trust me i ain't complaining, saves me faffing around in the menus.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:01 PM   #9
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This is okay if movies start with the best audio tracks, unfortunately I have seen many that don't.
Exactly. It's infuriating to have to navigate to the HD audio track while the movie has already started and then restart it.

Warner's first generation DVDs also defaulted to auto-starting the move but they eventually changed the practice. Hopefully they'll change to either starting with the main menu or making the HD audio track the default.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:20 PM   #10
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I looooooooove the way certain Warner movies have no title menu. I wish all Blu-ray movies just started right on into the movie. It does not even bother me to have to go into the menu and change the audio to lossless. If they defaulted to the highest bitrate audio and started up on its own, it would make me a happy camper indeed.

My reasons: It is more like a movie theater; it is more immersive than getting an artificial menu; sometimes the menus have major spoilers which are a big problem if it is the inital viewing; it takes no time to get into the movie (no load times, previews, or commercials), etc., etc.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:24 PM   #11
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Making the HD track the default should only happen on TrueHD titles IMO. It reduces confusion for the non-techie types why they're not getting 5.1

You think getting people to set their TV size correctly was hard? As we see again and again by people asking about settings, there's another 95% that just plugs it in and goes
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:28 PM   #12
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The beauty of pop-up menus
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:52 PM   #13
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It is more like a movie theater.
Except the projectionist doesn't have to rewind the film after the first few seconds.

I wouldn't mind the auto-start if it weren't for the audio selection issue. It takes my receiver a few seconds to engage after an audio track is selected after which I have to restart the movie. And yes I'm one of the geeks who listens to the prologue music to 2001 all the way through.
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Old 03-14-2008, 07:22 PM   #14
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They should throw a screen up at the beginning that says "The movie will start automatically. Please press menu to view other options". Freeze for 10 sec and start the movie.

Best of both worlds.

Personally, I hate all of the silly animation on the menus. It wastes time that I could spend watching the movie rather than some stupid fanboy menu animation.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:06 PM   #15
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Enjoy it when you can. As much as I love Disney, they put waaaaay too many previews and promos at the beginning of their movies.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:22 PM   #16
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Enjoy it when you can. As much as I love Disney, they put waaaaay too many previews and promos at the beginning of their movies.
Agreed!!! It is more like buying a disc of trailers with a movie as a bonus . What annoys me most is the "now showing in theaters" bit... Six months later this particular piece of information is already out of date and thus irrelevant.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:31 PM   #17
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Agreed!!! It is more like buying a disc of trailers with a movie as a bonus . What annoys me most is the "now showing in theaters" bit... Six months later this particular piece of information is already out of date and thus irrelevant.
i loved that on the old VHS/DVDS i have. it's so funny! "Coming soon! In theaters June 1995."
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:12 PM   #18
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Exactly. It's infuriating to have to navigate to the HD audio track while the movie has already started and then restart it.

Warner's first generation DVDs also defaulted to auto-starting the move but they eventually changed the practice. Hopefully they'll change to either starting with the main menu or making the HD audio track the default.
It would have been nice if these sorts features were in the BDA standards as required options selectable in the players themwselves. It's a little late now, but it would have been a cool feature. That way, you could have the player automatically select audio codecs in your order of preference, or auto start actual movie playback (or not if you prefer) upon disc insertion. Those sorts of defaults should be selectable by the home viewer and not the movie studio.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:30 AM   #19
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Personally, I don't really like the way Warner has built their menus. Too much small text when there are a lot of features (Potter:OOTP, 300) and very static. It reminds me a bit when they first came out with DVD a decade ago.

As for the autmatic start: I don't mind it. Besides, Warner has been doing it with standard DVD titles for years.
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:03 AM   #20
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Agreed!!! It is more like buying a disc of trailers with a movie as a bonus . What annoys me most is the "now showing in theaters" bit... Six months later this particular piece of information is already out of date and thus irrelevant.
Forcing people to watch advertisements and trailers is really annoying especially after they have paid for the content that they want to watch. The best way from the user perspective is to place adverts and trailers as a separate menu item and movie-only as another item. However, it is unlikely that this would happen.
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